kwais wrote: BruceWayne wrote: kwais wrote:
BruceWayne wrote: Obviously he would be at the top in terms of study time, but he would defintely not be anywhere near by himself at my school. Honestly, most people study to the same exten that an associate would be working at a big firm (i.e 12 hours a day).
LMAO right. All those books like OneHell Lawschoolconfidential and movies like the Paper Chase etc. just pulled that out of thin air. I swear, like I said before this has been one of the most annoying things about law school. People are just crazy fake.
Another thing that is really interesting about this topic is that people like to drop common sense and just go off of the bullshit that is spouted on this website about it.
Step back and think about it for a minute. The average median ugrad GPA at a top 14 is north of a 3.8. A plurality of the kids attending went to an ivy or an non ivy top undergrad. Many went to the nation's top prep schools for high school. The job market is absolute trash for legal grads and everyone knows it. But naaaw just like TLS says people aren't studying this hard bro--chill out--LMAO!!!!
first of all, you cited the Paper Chase. Huge mistake. Terrible movie, nothing like law school. Second of all, I hung out with a large group of people 1L year, many of whom are now on law revue, who never approached these kinds of hours. Never.
And a lot of these boarding school ivy types, which I am not, did not get there because they are hard core type-A. Many people go on that path because their parents did, or because they have access to it.
I think what is annoying about law school is people like you who hype it up, assume everyone else is lying and generally just have a chip on their shoulder about something that is...just school.
Yes, some people study this hard, but they are the minority and there is little correlation with success
Counterfactual thinking bro.
How would you test how Person X would do 1L fall semester studying 40hrs/wk vs. how Person X would do 1L fall semester studying 80hrs/wk?
I don't doubt that this work is overkill, and I've talked to several T14 LR peeps who did it with much, much less work. But that's comparing two different people with different aptitudes, typing speeds, processing abilities, etc. Again, it's a personal choice, and I totally get why a lot of people wouldn't want to put in these kind of hours. I really do. But the fact of the matter is that fall 1L semester comprises of 50% of your 1L GPA and is GPA pretty much all that matters for a non-insignificant amount of top flight law firms, i.e. Quinn/S&C.
Personally, I'm going to workout 5x a week, get my 7 hours of sleep per night, and follow the philosophy of Zen Master Xeoh:
"After all, this is 1L. Even if the extra mile only gets you a slight increase in your grades, it was likely worth it. You had no way of knowing your own aptitude and how much effort you would have to give. Play it safe. Do all that you possibly can."viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118545&hilit=Xeoh+notes