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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby JetsFan1990 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:How to beat border line retards in exams, by Nick.

LOL at being proud of being waitlisted at Gtown.


hahahahahaha so harsh, yet so true.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby seahawk32 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:24 pm

This advice isn't new. It can all be found in various threads on this forum.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby blahblewblah » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:25 pm

Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby Wakelaw15 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:25 pm

I'm surprised that you recommend taking practice exams from day 1 of a class. How can it be a good use of time to take practice exams on material you haven't read before or been taught? I'm a OL btw, so I'm asking this as a genuine question. Also, I've read elsewhere that it doesn't make sense to start outlining until you are three or four weeks into the semester for the same reason (there's no way to get the big picture when you know so little).

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby JamMasterJ » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:32 pm

blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.

paying it forward

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby fatduck » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:34 pm

i applaud your creativity


but lol at characterizing this as MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby sunynp » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:36 pm

blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


Agree there is plenty of better advice for free on this forum. I just hope OP doesn't take other people's work and sell it.

Maybe TLS should start a tour where people give exam taking advice for a few hundred bucks a pop, but that would feel wrong to me.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby blahblewblah » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:39 pm

sunynp wrote:
blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


Agree there is plenty of better advice for free on this forum. I just hope OP doesn't take other people's work and sell it.

Maybe TLS should start a tour where people give exam taking advice for a few hundred bucks a pop, but that would feel wrong to me.


But how many people on TLS have the distinguished honor of being waitlisted, as a transfer, at Georgetown?

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby sunynp » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:00 pm

blahblewblah wrote:
sunynp wrote:
blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


Agree there is plenty of better advice for free on this forum. I just hope OP doesn't take other people's work and sell it.

Maybe TLS should start a tour where people give exam taking advice for a few hundred bucks a pop, but that would feel wrong to me.


But how many people on TLS have the distinguished honor of being waitlisted, as a transfer, at Georgetown?

LOL

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:29 pm

FlanSolo wrote:
DuckEUG2010 wrote:(2) non-issue spotter exams? I apologize for my ignorance, but could you explain more about these and how a commercial outline would help more than just knowing 100% of what the professor goes over in lecture?


For one, the kind where you are presented with facts that don't mirror anything you've really done before, so you need to use policy and theory chops to cobble together a prediction about what the law might be.


I also have taken those tests this past year. While the issues are not as readily apparent, they are still there to be found and analyzed. But, again, how does reading cases give you anything over and above the casebriefs online and your notes from lecture? You make it sound like you are not able to know how to synthesize the policies and rules from these materials? If that's the case, I strongly disagree, respectively.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby 6lehderjets » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:31 pm

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby fatduck » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:31 pm

DuckEUG2010 wrote:
FlanSolo wrote:
DuckEUG2010 wrote:(2) non-issue spotter exams? I apologize for my ignorance, but could you explain more about these and how a commercial outline would help more than just knowing 100% of what the professor goes over in lecture?


For one, the kind where you are presented with facts that don't mirror anything you've really done before, so you need to use policy and theory chops to cobble together a prediction about what the law might be.


I also have taken those tests this past year. While the issues are not as readily apparent, they are still there to be found and analyzed. But, again, how does reading cases give you anything over and above the casebriefs online and your notes from lecture? You make it sound like you are not able to know how to synthesize the policies and rules from these materials? If that's the case, I strongly disagree, respectively.

because profs are lazy and use note cases as exam fact patterns.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:36 pm

Wakelaw15 wrote:I'm surprised that you recommend taking practice exams from day 1 of a class. How can it be a good use of time to take practice exams on material you haven't read before or been taught? I'm a OL btw, so I'm asking this as a genuine question. Also, I've read elsewhere that it doesn't make sense to start outlining until you are three or four weeks into the semester for the same reason (there's no way to get the big picture when you know so little).


I appreciate your question. I apologize for not being more clear. There is no value in taking the practice test as far as sitting down with a timer and typing out an answer. I simply read the question then read the professor's answer. I get a broad idea of where the term is going and where I should be by the end. As far as outlining- If you take an outline from a law review member (who took the same course from the same professor the year previously) and use it as your shell. When you go into lecture, type everything the professor says in red, and after class keep condensing as you go. Once you are 3-4 weeks out is when you will start constructing your test outline.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:38 pm

blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


I appreciate your opinion.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:40 pm

JetsFan1990 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:How to beat border line retards in exams, by Nick.

LOL at being proud of being waitlisted at Gtown.


hahahahahaha so harsh, yet so true.


Both the borderline retards and maybe a few regular retards.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby ajaxconstructions » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:41 pm

You should be ashamed that you are charging people for this.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby blahblewblah » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:42 pm

DuckEUG2010 wrote:
Wakelaw15 wrote:I'm surprised that you recommend taking practice exams from day 1 of a class. How can it be a good use of time to take practice exams on material you haven't read before or been taught? I'm a OL btw, so I'm asking this as a genuine question. Also, I've read elsewhere that it doesn't make sense to start outlining until you are three or four weeks into the semester for the same reason (there's no way to get the big picture when you know so little).


I appreciate your question. I apologize for not being more clear. There is no value in taking the practice test as far as sitting down with a timer and typing out an answer. I simply read the question then read the professor's answer. I get a broad idea of where the term is going and where I should be by the end. As far as outlining- If you take an outline from a law review member (who took the same course from the same professor the year previously) and use it as your shell. When you go into lecture, type everything the professor says in red, and after class keep condensing as you go. Once you are 3-4 weeks out is when you will start constructing your test outline.


But the thing is, at a lot of schools the number of practice tests you have access to is extremely limited. Therefore, it does not seem like a good use of practice test just to see where the semester is going. It would be much better to use the tests later in the semester when you can actually write out the whole test and review the model answer.
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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby fatduck » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:42 pm

why did you transfer?

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:47 pm

blahblewblah wrote:
DuckEUG2010 wrote:
Wakelaw15 wrote:I'm surprised that you recommend taking practice exams from day 1 of a class. How can it be a good use of time to take practice exams on material you haven't read before or been taught? I'm a OL btw, so I'm asking this as a genuine question. Also, I've read elsewhere that it doesn't make sense to start outlining until you are three or four weeks into the semester for the same reason (there's no way to get the big picture when you know so little).


I appreciate your question. I apologize for not being more clear. There is no value in taking the practice test as far as sitting down with a timer and typing out an answer. I simply read the question then read the professor's answer. I get a broad idea of where the term is going and where I should be by the end. As far as outlining- If you take an outline from a law review member (who took the same course from the same professor the year previously) and use it as your shell. When you go into lecture, type everything the professor says in red, and after class keep condensing as you go. Once you are 3-4 weeks out is when you will start constructing your test outline.


But the thing is, at a lot of schools the number of practice tests you have access to is extremely limited. Therefore, it does not seem like a good use of practice test just to see where the semester is going. It would be much better to use the tests later in the semester when you can actually write out the whole test and review the model answer.


My school had many tenured professors who had a test bank that went back 15 years. You would have to judge that on a school by school basis. I definitely agree that once you look at a test and its answer, it becomes less useful to you.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:48 pm

ajaxconstructions wrote:You should be ashamed that you are charging people for this.


If you don't want the information, or feel as though you can get it for free elsewhere, go ahead. I'm not making anyone pay for anything. Ashamed? No.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:50 pm

blahblewblah wrote:
sunynp wrote:
blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


Agree there is plenty of better advice for free on this forum. I just hope OP doesn't take other people's work and sell it.

Maybe TLS should start a tour where people give exam taking advice for a few hundred bucks a pop, but that would feel wrong to me.


But how many people on TLS have the distinguished honor of being waitlisted, as a transfer, at Georgetown?


It was really exciting for me. I'm sorry that offends you.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby DuckEUG2010 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:53 pm

fatduck wrote:why did you transfer?


There were many reasons. But if I was to narrow it to a few, I would say location, dollars and cents, and the quality of the potential interviews/ student body.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby TrialLawyer16 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:02 pm

DuckEUG2010 wrote:
blahblewblah wrote:
sunynp wrote:
blahblewblah wrote:Paying $200 for this is a TTTT scam.


Agree there is plenty of better advice for free on this forum. I just hope OP doesn't take other people's work and sell it.

Maybe TLS should start a tour where people give exam taking advice for a few hundred bucks a pop, but that would feel wrong to me.


But how many people on TLS have the distinguished honor of being waitlisted, as a transfer, at Georgetown?


It was really exciting for me. I'm sorry that offends you.

OL here. As funny as I do find blahblewblah's and others' comments (and I did find them hilarious), I think a congratulations is in order for the OP. I listened to the first minute or so of the video and I think he said he had a 3.2 UGPA and a 152 LSAT and now he's in at GW (with a remote possibility of sneaking in off Gtown's waitlist?). I can't speak to the quality of your advice, but that's pretty impressive and congratulations OP.

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby fatduck » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:03 pm

DuckEUG2010 wrote:
fatduck wrote:why did you transfer?


There were many reasons. But if I was to narrow it to a few, I would say location, dollars and cents, and the quality of the potential interviews/ student body.

GW is cheaper than your 1L school? :shock:

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Re: MUST SEE PRIOR TO 1L YEAR

Postby sunynp » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:40 pm

fatduck wrote:
DuckEUG2010 wrote:
fatduck wrote:why did you transfer?


There were many reasons. But if I was to narrow it to a few, I would say location, dollars and cents, and the quality of the potential interviews/ student body.

GW is cheaper than your 1L school? :shock:


I thought GW is a classic trap school. OP good luck with OCI and getting a job out of GW. I think you should be focusing on getting a @2LSA instead of trying to go with this scam like teaching deal. I'm not a fan of GW, but I hope it works for you.




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