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Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:42 pm

Hello --

Feel free to ask anything. I will check in periodically to answer questions.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby Zionman » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:45 pm

Where is it located?

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby skaterboyroland » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:02 pm

I start this fall and was wondering if you had any reccomendions for study guides? Also, how is the competitiveness? Did you feel like it was pretty laid back? Or you had to fight others to be in the top percent of the class?

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby masked kavana » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:31 pm

As much as I want to go to L&C the employment outcomes are really scary.

How have you found the job search to be in Portland? Do you have any idea about how others are doing?

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:04 am

skaterboyroland wrote:I start this fall and was wondering if you had any reccomendions for study guides? Also, how is the competitiveness? Did you feel like it was pretty laid back? Or you had to fight others to be in the top percent of the class?


For contracts and civil procedure, I highly recommend buying the Examples & Explanations. Each contracts prof uses the same book, which was coauthored by two of our professors. One of them, Blumm, wrote the E&E. As you can imagine, when the book and the E&E were authored by the same, the E&E is incredibly useful for the class. You probably won't need to buy supplements for any other classes. Instead, you will be able to consult the copies that are on reserve in the library when you need to do so. Also, many of your professors will have recommendations on their syllabus. You do not need to buy every book they recommend, but if you want one, that's a good place to look. Also, ask your professors. Once you get your classes, just shoot a friendly email introducing yourself. The profs are very open-door oriented. Don't say "do I need a supplement?" The answer will always be no. Say "if I choose to consult a supplement, is there one that you would recommend for your class?"

The other thing is, during your first like two weeks, Barbri reps will be hounding you. Buy what they are selling. You will be like $150-$200 to lock in a price for Barbri bar prep upon graduation. Locking in your price is valuable, as it increases each year, but what is even more valuable is the study guides that Barbri gives you for 1L. The online materials are priceless and can be accessed no other way.

As far as competitiveness, there are two components. First, among the school is very laid back. From the administration, Dean Klonoff included, and the professors, down through the students. Students help each other out and are very friendly toward one another. We don't hide materials. We send notes if someone is sick. We talk through confusion over lunch. Your section members will likely become very good friends. At the same time, it is law school. In the end, we are all looking for a job. You will be going to school with very smart, very hard working people. Law school is inherently competitive, but at LC that competitiveness is really kept to a minimum and is a healthy competitive environment. People don't discuss grades, the registrar doesn't post class rankings publicly, etc. I chose LC because it was laid back. I do not feel deceived.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:09 am

masked kavana wrote:As much as I want to go to L&C the employment outcomes are really scary.

How have you found the job search to be in Portland? Do you have any idea about how others are doing?


All of my friends were able to land a position after 1L. I know not everyone did, but certainly most. The job market is tight everywhere, and that's something we have to deal with. In Portland, you are dealing with a very, very tight-knit legal market, and LC is right in the middle. The career services offices is fantastic and will do everything in their power to give you the tools to succeed. You will have ample networking opportunities. You will have a mentor, perhaps that practices in an area of law that is of interest to you.

Managing partners at the Portland firms have agreed to look first at Oregon law grads. Lewis & Clark is the best school in Oregon. 'Nuff said. For example, Miller Nash will be hiring 8 clerks for next summer. The Oregon DOJ hires a ton of LC 1Ls. Bottom line is, it is tough, and it is a little scary. But that is what you are getting into.

As an aside, most of your classmates will be doing public interest type things. It is very hard to get public interest type jobs, especially since they have something set in their mind that they want to do. Do not limit your options, network like hell, and do the best you can in school. You will, in all likelihood, be fine.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:12 am

Zionman wrote:Where is it located?


Either you are a jack ass, or you don't know how to use the Google machine. Which is it?

City of Roses, Rip City, Bridgetown, Stumptown, Soccer City USA, Beervana, P-Town, PDX, Little-Beirut (still don't get this one).

Best city in the US!

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby supersonicrocket » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:47 pm

Hi lewis&clarkLawGuy

Late to the party, but I'm starting in the fall and really looking forward to it. I have tons of questions:

I'm planning on living in one of the school-owned houses near campus. I prefer the shortest commute possible, and I'm hoping the convenience will make it easier to focus on school. But I've heard mixed things about the condition of these houses. And I hear that the school's housing is generally occupied by younger students. I'm 28 and used to living like an adult. In your opinion, am I making a mistake?

Related question: I don't know Portland's rental market at all, is ~$600 reasonable rent for a large master bedroom in the L&C neighborhood? Could I find a 1-br apt in the area for less? Is the school gouging me?

I just sold my car, and I'm starting to regret that. I hear the PDX is ultra-bike friendly, but the stretch between campus and the downtown area on Terwilliger doesn't look too bike-friendly at some points. Am I right?

Do law students use the athletic facilities on campus? Or is it overrun with undergrads? I have no problem joining a gym off-campus, just looking for a heads-up.

Did you participate in the AEP program, or know others who did? Thoughts on that? Worthwhile?

Thanks!

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:58 am

supersonicrocket wrote:Hi lewis&clarkLawGuy

Late to the party, but I'm starting in the fall and really looking forward to it. I have tons of questions:

I'm planning on living in one of the school-owned houses near campus. I prefer the shortest commute possible, and I'm hoping the convenience will make it easier to focus on school. But I've heard mixed things about the condition of these houses. And I hear that the school's housing is generally occupied by younger students. I'm 28 and used to living like an adult. In your opinion, am I making a mistake?

Related question: I don't know Portland's rental market at all, is ~$600 reasonable rent for a large master bedroom in the L&C neighborhood? Could I find a 1-br apt in the area for less? Is the school gouging me?

I just sold my car, and I'm starting to regret that. I hear the PDX is ultra-bike friendly, but the stretch between campus and the downtown area on Terwilliger doesn't look too bike-friendly at some points. Am I right?

Do law students use the athletic facilities on campus? Or is it overrun with undergrads? I have no problem joining a gym off-campus, just looking for a heads-up.

Did you participate in the AEP program, or know others who did? Thoughts on that? Worthwhile?

Thanks!


As far as the housing, the make up of the students you will be living with is hit or miss. I had a few friends who lived in LC's housing, and they all seemed to like it ok. It is close the school, so it is easy just to be on campus in the library or whatever. If you are worried about the commute to school, you don't really need to live right next to campus. You could live practically anywhere in SW Portland without issue. The school runs a shuttle that goes around the SW neighborhoods. I wouldn't worry too much about it though. The houses I have seen are perfectly fine. I wouldn't want to live in them just because I prefer not to have roommates, but if you are ok with that, one of those houses will be nice to have -- it is hard to get housing so close to the school.

As far as the price, the rent is reasonable. A 1br apartment usually runs between $600-$900 depending on location and quality. There is a 2br house across the street from campus that just rented for 1395. I have a friend that lives probably about 3/4 mile from the school in a 1br mother in law suite and he pays $670. I think $600 is about par for the course. (Keeping in mind that housing is very limited that close to the school.) There are other areas relatively close to the school, on the school's shuttle, that you may be able to find a similarly priced 1br. It would take some searching though, and wouldn't be right next to the school. You could check the mountain park area, and perhaps multnomah village. Also, there is Sellwood, which is across the river. They are getting set to fix the bridge, and I'm not sure how that is going to affect bike commuters.

No worries on not having a car. I haven't had a car for about 5 years now, and I don't bike. Public transportation in Portland is very user friendly, and if you bike, you will be ok. Terwilliger and Barbur (the road that will take you downtown) might look a little more intimidating, but there are wide bike lanes and tons of people make that commute by bike daily. Also, the school has a shuttle that runs downtown a few times a day. If you don't want to bike Barbur, you can always take a bus and put your bike on the front -- another popular commuter choice. My hunch is that you won't be going downtown a lot anyway. Your bike will get you around just fine.

Law students do use the athletic facilities on the UG campus. We have a group that plays basketball weekly, and in the fall we had a solid group getting together for soccer games. Also, they just put in some covered tennis courts, which I predict will be used frequently by the law students. As far as the weight room and stuff like that, I never actually used it, but I had several classmates that I know of who used it regularly in the mornings. I didn't hear anyone complaining about it, and the undergrads never bothered us during our basketball games. Except for when they wanted to play with us, at which point we just put them in their place.

I did not participate in AEP. At times I wish I had, but my feeling is that reviews would be mixed if you spoke to students who participated. It starts even before your Legal Elements class, so by the time you are nearing the end of Legal Elements, you will really be itching to start your real classes, having had ample instruction on who to read an opinion and brief a case. Also, it will require some Saturday sessions throughout fall semester that are real time wasters and drew lots of complaints. On the other hand, you will be privy to some nice secret TA study sessions as you near finals. That is the bonus I wish I had. They are technically open to everyone, but they don't advertise them, and you get nasty looks if you are there and you are not AEP. (So I have heard.)

Hopefully, some of this is helpful!

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Postby rad lulz » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:35 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:Do not limit your options, network like hell, and do the best you can in school. You will, in all likelihood, be fine.

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With only 42.5% getting real lawyer jobs, is 57.5% of the class not networking and doing the best they can in school?

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Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:26 am

rad lulz wrote:
lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:Do not limit your options, network like hell, and do the best you can in school. You will, in all likelihood, be fine.

--LinkRemoved--

With only 42.5% getting real lawyer jobs, is 57.5% of the class not networking and doing the best they can in school?


What is the source of those figures from that website? Does the 42.5% account only for legal jobs requiring bar passage? I tried to look on the website, but the little question mark button wasn't functioning. My computer at work really sucks. Anyway, I am not too confident in that website anyway, partly because they have incorrectly quoted LC's tuition on that very page. It didn't cost my class that much.

A few things.

First, the market sucks for the class of 2011, which those figures represent, and that is no secret. I imagine that when figures come out for the most recent graduating class, they will be improved.

Second, if it only counts jobs where bar passage is required, it may not fully capture the kinds of employment that our environmental and animal law students seek, which is often policy work, where a JD is not required. Although, usually when the JD would be beneficial, that would be captured in the figures regardless.

Third, I did say "do not limit your options." I suppose I need to be more frank. Many students come to LC with a very narrow and very specific career goal. For example, I have a classmate who is at LC particularly to work on issues relating to sharks upon graduation, and at every step in between. Another classmate lives only to protect wolves. These are noble pursuits, but the job options are limited. Many students drawn to LC come for the environmental or animal law programs, and those students are less willing to take a job doing something that doesn't relate to their goals, like estate planning, which will be an area of law that law students will likely be able to find employment in upon graduation.

Fourth, it is apparent that roughly half of the class will be below the curve. By entering law school, that is a risk you take. Unless you are going to get into one of the top ranked law schools in the country, being in the bottom half of the class means that you may have a more difficult time finding a job. If this scares you, don't go to law school.

Fifth, these figures typically count who has a job within nine months of graduation. It used to be that most law students had a job before graduation. These days, it is much more rare for law students to be hired before they pass the bar. And of that nine months, most of it is spent preparing for, taking, and waiting for results for the bar. Just because you haven't found a job within a couple of months of passing the bar does not mean your life is going to be doomed forever and ever. Does it suck? Yes. But we all are aware of the circumstances going in.

Sixth, you have to be proactive to get a legal job. I have classmates who did not apply for any positions until after finals in the spring. You will have classmates that do the same. Those people are not likely to have much success in this job market.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby jenesaislaw » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:53 am

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:What is the source of those figures from that website? Does the 42.5% account only for legal jobs requiring bar passage? I tried to look on the website, but the little question mark button wasn't functioning. My computer at work really sucks. Anyway, I am not too confident in that website anyway, partly because they have incorrectly quoted LC's tuition on that very page. It didn't cost my class that much.


The source, for 2011, is the ABA (for now, expansion in progress). The sources for 2010 are the ABA, school NALP reports (50 schools), school websites, and U.S. News.

The 42.5% number accounts for long-term, full-time jobs that require bar passage, less solos who are long-term and full-time (part-time and short-term solos are excluded already). There are 8 grads practicing solo excluded for L&C.

The tuition and fees we listed for LC are correct for 2011-2012, I have the file on record if you really want to see it. Here's 2012-2013: http://www.lclark.edu/offices/account_s ... costs/law/ The non-discounted cost is the sticker price when debt-financing for future years, which assumes a 3% increase in tuition each year and a 2% COL increase each year. These numbers are actually pretty modest on average.

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:A few things.

First, the market sucks for the class of 2011, which those figures represent, and that is no secret. I imagine that when figures come out for the most recent graduating class, they will be improved.


You are in the minority if you think the improvement will be more than modest (if at all). We might have hit the bottom, but the legal profession has undergone (and is undergoing) substantial structural reform due to technology, globalization, and the general commoditization of legal services. The new normal will look nothing like the normal of the last decade. Consult the writings of Bill Henderson, a professor at Indiana's law school, if you'd like more depth.

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:Second, if it only counts jobs where bar passage is required, it may not fully capture the kinds of employment that our environmental and animal law students seek, which is often policy work, where a JD is not required. Although, usually when the JD would be beneficial, that would be captured in the figures regardless.


Seek, but obtain? 16 graduates ended up with JD Advantage jobs that were long-term and full-time. If the JDA jobs are actually great and worthy, L&C has the data to back it up, so ask them to share it. They don't: http://law.lclark.edu/live/files/10883- ... f-20111pdf

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby basilseal » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:58 am

How's working at the admissions office?

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:16 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:What is the source of those figures from that website? Does the 42.5% account only for legal jobs requiring bar passage? I tried to look on the website, but the little question mark button wasn't functioning. My computer at work really sucks. Anyway, I am not too confident in that website anyway, partly because they have incorrectly quoted LC's tuition on that very page. It didn't cost my class that much.


The source, for 2011, is the ABA (for now, expansion in progress). The sources for 2010 are the ABA, school NALP reports (50 schools), school websites, and U.S. News.

The 42.5% number accounts for long-term, full-time jobs that require bar passage, less solos who are long-term and full-time (part-time and short-term solos are excluded already). There are 8 grads practicing solo excluded for L&C.

The tuition and fees we listed for LC are correct for 2011-2012, I have the file on record if you really want to see it. Here's 2012-2013: http://www.lclark.edu/offices/account_s ... costs/law/ The non-discounted cost is the sticker price when debt-financing for future years, which assumes a 3% increase in tuition each year and a 2% COL increase each year. These numbers are actually pretty modest on average.

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:A few things.

First, the market sucks for the class of 2011, which those figures represent, and that is no secret. I imagine that when figures come out for the most recent graduating class, they will be improved.


You are in the minority if you think the improvement will be more than modest (if at all). We might have hit the bottom, but the legal profession has undergone (and is undergoing) substantial structural reform due to technology, globalization, and the general commoditization of legal services. The new normal will look nothing like the normal of the last decade. Consult the writings of Bill Henderson, a professor at Indiana's law school, if you'd like more depth.

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:Second, if it only counts jobs where bar passage is required, it may not fully capture the kinds of employment that our environmental and animal law students seek, which is often policy work, where a JD is not required. Although, usually when the JD would be beneficial, that would be captured in the figures regardless.


Seek, but obtain? 16 graduates ended up with JD Advantage jobs that were long-term and full-time. If the JDA jobs are actually great and worthy, L&C has the data to back it up, so ask them to share it. They don't: http://law.lclark.edu/live/files/10883- ... f-20111pdf


JD preferred category says 41, 25 ft and 16 pt. That's 17% of jobs according to the figure you quoted.

Scrutinizing job numbers is fair and the legal market is tough. I'm not saying that if you go to LC you are going to have glowing job prospects. I have a lot of classmates who are really scared. Several people dropped out of my class. That's the reality we live in. You are fully aware of the circumstances, so you have a choice to make. 2012 will be only a modest improvement, but, assuming you are beginning in the fall, you will not be graduating until at least 2015.

If you want to work in Portland, there is no better place to go to law school than LC, unless you want BigLaw and are able to get into a top ranked school.

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Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:18 pm

basilseal wrote:How's working at the admissions office?


I work for an energy company/utility in the general counsel's office.

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Postby basilseal » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:24 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
basilseal wrote:How's working at the admissions office?


I work for an energy company/utility in the general counsel's office.

And you have absolutely no connection with LC's administration? If that's the case, I apologize. But one rarely hears a law student, even at top schools, say things like

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:The career services offices is fantastic and will do everything in their power to give you the tools to succeed.

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Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:33 pm

basilseal wrote:
lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
basilseal wrote:How's working at the admissions office?


I work for an energy company/utility in the general counsel's office.

And you have absolutely no connection with LC's administration? If that's the case, I apologize. But one rarely hears a law student, even at top schools, say things like

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:The career services offices is fantastic and will do everything in their power to give you the tools to succeed.


Ah. I assumed you were being a smart ass. Not everyone uses the office completely. Like most things in law school, you have to be very proactive. I imagine it is the same at every school. They don't reach out and hold your hand. If that is what you are expecting, maybe you would be a little disappointed. I frequented the career services office throughout my first year and they were incredibly helpful. Also, LC is tight with the Portland legal community, and the interactions between the school and the community are through career services.

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Postby jenesaislaw » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:47 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:JD preferred category says 41, 25 ft and 16 pt. That's 17% of jobs according to the figure you quoted.

Scrutinizing job numbers is fair and the legal market is tough. I'm not saying that if you go to LC you are going to have glowing job prospects. I have a lot of classmates who are really scared. Several people dropped out of my class. That's the reality we live in. You are fully aware of the circumstances, so you have a choice to make. 2012 will be only a modest improvement, but, assuming you are beginning in the fall, you will not be graduating until at least 2015.

If you want to work in Portland, there is no better place to go to law school than LC, unless you want BigLaw and are able to get into a top ranked school.


But only 16 of the 41 are in long-term, full-time JDA jobs. The other 25 are in jobs are either short-term, part-time, or both.

That said, I do not dispute your point about Portland. People need to make law school choices based on where they want to practice. Yet the analysis cannot stop at "X is best for Y location" because (a) costs are high and (b) opportunities are low.

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Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:00 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:Yet the analysis cannot stop at "X is best for Y location" because (a) costs are high and (b) opportunities are low.


This is true. It's a consideration for every prospective student, coming in knowing full well that the job market sucktitude is off the charts.

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Postby Campagnolo » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:18 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
Zionman wrote:Where is it located?


Either you are a jack ass, or you don't know how to use the Google machine. Which is it?

City of Roses, Rip City, Bridgetown, Stumptown, Soccer City USA, Beervana, P-Town, PDX, Little-Beirut (still don't get this one).

Best city in the US!


George Bush visited Portland in the '80s and protesters ate mashed potatoes food-colored red and blue (and ate normal white ones, too). They then projectile vomited at him and his car downtown. He is said to have remarked that Portland was the least friendly city, and that it was like a Little Beirut in terms of his reception.

The more you know.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:39 pm

Campagnolo wrote:
lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
Zionman wrote:Where is it located?


Either you are a jack ass, or you don't know how to use the Google machine. Which is it?

City of Roses, Rip City, Bridgetown, Stumptown, Soccer City USA, Beervana, P-Town, PDX, Little-Beirut (still don't get this one).

Best city in the US!


George Bush visited Portland in the '80s and protesters ate mashed potatoes food-colored red and blue (and ate normal white ones, too). They then projectile vomited at him and his car downtown. He is said to have remarked that Portland was the least friendly city, and that it was like a Little Beirut in terms of his reception.

The more you know.


Ahhh yes I remember reading this. Someone had remarked that when CJ John Roberts comes to the law school in the Fall, it would be similar. Due to recent events, it may be more like Obama's '08 visit.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:39 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote:Yet the analysis cannot stop at "X is best for Y location" because (a) costs are high and (b) opportunities are low.


This is true. It's a consideration for every prospective student, coming in knowing full well that the job market sucktitude is off the charts.

Seems at odds with your previous point that "You will probably be fine."

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby lewis&clarkLawGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:58 pm

rad lulz wrote:
lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote:Yet the analysis cannot stop at "X is best for Y location" because (a) costs are high and (b) opportunities are low.


This is true. It's a consideration for every prospective student, coming in knowing full well that the job market sucktitude is off the charts.

Seems at odds with your previous point that "You will probably be fine."


Is it at odds? The job market sucks and most won't have a job at graduation. Some won't have a job nine months after graduation (much of that time spent preparing for and taking bar, then waiting for results). And yet, the world will not end for those people and their degrees will not turn into a pile of ash. They will, in my belief, be fine.

What I mean to say is that even if you don't have a job within nine months of graduation, that does not mean that you will be unemployed forever.

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Re: Lewis & Clark Law School - 2L Taking Questions

Postby supersonicrocket » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:57 pm

lewis&clarkLawGuy wrote:
Zionman wrote:Where is it located?


Either you are a jack ass, or you don't know how to use the Google machine. Which is it?

City of Roses, Rip City, Bridgetown, Stumptown, Soccer City USA, Beervana, P-Town, PDX, Little-Beirut (still don't get this one).

Best city in the US!


Zionman's post history indicates that he doesn't know what C&F stand for, and is having trouble understanding who gets classified as a URM. Admittedly, there is constant confusion about who gets URM designation. But these are both questions that can be answered with a Google search. Post history also shows an annoying habit of ending posts with, "thank me later." I'm guessing both a jackass and Google-ignorant.




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