JLin179 wrote:Ioannis wrote:sex is pretty awesome, i'm not sure why you feel all high and mighty and worthy of condemning people for just having sex. It's pretty natural.
sorry for derailing, I just hate that mentality.
Let me begin by noting your clearly invalid move from the supposed naturalness of sex-having to its moral acceptability. Murder, rape, gambling, and rap music may very well be natural to the human condition, but obviously no rational person would conclude that they are therefore morally appropriate.
Beyond your logical failing, though, is your factual error in supposing that everyone who condemns sex-having deems himself to be "high and mighty." I am no saint. There are times when I am more Dionysius than Apollo--days when my appetite gets the better of my intellect. You presumably don't deem yourself "high and mighty" when you deign to condemn murders and thieves, do you?
Sex is an agreement between two (or maybe more) people to do something that does no harm. I'm talking about consensual sex. You can not lump that with murder and rape.
You assumed a position of the high and mighty when you condemned something that does not violate the (positive version) golden rule of morals, "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself".
You could argue that sex leads to std spread/unwanted reproduction, but we have means to test/prevent those ends.
Looks like there's nothing immoral about (protected or planned unprotected) consensual sex.