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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby smaug » Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:29 pm

John_Luther1989 wrote:
doctorjuris wrote:Might be a silly Q but when do we select courses for 2L year?


You enter the lottery in mid/late-June then wait while the registrar does fuck all. They'll get around to thinking about maybe, possibly, if time allows, giving out schedules right about the end of August.

pretty sure they do this intentionally so students can lie about what courses they're taking while interviewing

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:56 pm

The university-level course list is already up, but it's incomplete: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/bulletin/uwb ... l2016.html

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Nebby » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:38 am

To the rising 2Ls planning on writing a note: I recommend not taking a seminar in the fall. Writing a note and seminar paper at the same time was horrible.

Also, if you're writing a note you want published, then you're going to have to put in the work. I recommend treating it like a class. I set aside 4 hours every Monday to research starting in September, and it made the writing so much easier by putting in the work early.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:29 pm

Nebby wrote:To the rising 2Ls planning on writing a note: I recommend not taking a seminar in the fall. Writing a note and seminar paper at the same time was horrible.

Also, if you're writing a note you want published, then you're going to have to put in the work. I recommend treating it like a class. I set aside 4 hours every Monday to research starting in September, and it made the writing so much easier by putting in the work early.


I think this is case by case: I would advise researching the evaluation method of a seminar before committing too it rather than ruling them out altogether. Just to illustrate another data point out there, not all seminars have extended papers--some are take-home exams, others just small assignments throughout the semester, and you can usually tell by glancing at the syllabus what the work product will be (for example, my fall 2L seminar was a take-home exam and very little reading). One other twist--if you take a seminar with a prof you trust, they may permit your seminar paper and note to be on the same subject, which might be technically a violation of some policy but I know several friends who got it approved and its a nice two for one.

Re: the note, I'd second nebby about the importance of putting in the work, but I think the most important element of publication is novelty/preemption: you can brute force hundreds of hours but still fail to publish if you don't meet that primary criteria. I spent much of the fall refining my topic and research and basically wrote the entire thing in late december and january, missing tons of fall deadlines along the way, but got published because I took the time to find an area that hadn't been fully explored--and a subject I was actually still interested in, hating your note is not a great sign-- instead of putting too much emphasis on what the note editors wanted when.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby wilt » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:49 am

are tls clsers representative of clsers irl?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:45 pm

wilt wrote:are tls clsers representative of clsers irl?


Our mental illnesses are slightly different than everyone else's.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby White Dwarf » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:48 pm

Thought I aced my Property exam... turns out it's my first B. :|
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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby ugg » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:21 pm

how screwed are we if our dean's certificate or immuno records are late? I've sent all my requests out but I'm not entirely convinced the organizations will respond in time.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Bearlyalive » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:26 pm

ugg wrote:how screwed are we if our dean's certificate or immuno records are late? I've sent all my requests out but I'm not entirely convinced the organizations will respond in time.


I'm going to lean on the side of not-at-all-screwed. I really doubt there is much any backlash for lagging behind on some of this bureaucratic crap. If you still feel nervous about it, I would just call the offices and let them know that you requested the cert/records some time ago, but are not sure that your school/doctor will send them in a timely manner. I really doubt they'll punish you for someone else being slow, and I'm sure this happens to many students every year.

ETA: totally thought I was responding to this in the Columbia waiters thread. Apologies for stepping on the toes of people much more qualified to answer this question :lol:
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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby DCfilterDC » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:35 pm

Bearlyalive wrote:
ugg wrote:how screwed are we if our dean's certificate or immuno records are late? I've sent all my requests out but I'm not entirely convinced the organizations will respond in time.


I'm going to lean on the side of not-at-all-screwed. I really doubt there is much any backlash for lagging behind on some of this bureaucratic crap. If you still feel nervous about it, I would just call the offices and let them know that you requested the cert/records some time ago, but are not sure that your school/doctor will send them in a timely manner. I really doubt they'll punish you for someone else being slow, and I'm sure this happens to many students every year.


Yeah don't worry about it at all

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:11 pm

wilt wrote:are tls clsers representative of clsers irl?


my year the tls'ers were a pretty good cross-section of the class. the most glaring difference is that TLS is overwhelmingly male whereas the law school is pretty even/often more female.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:02 pm

Not to start bidding insanity too early... but can anyone post last year's first failed bid list? I've heard anecdotally it's going to be a lot different this year, but curious to get the previous one as a reference point.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby FascinatedWanderer » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:44 pm

Do pass fail classes (i.e. ones where you receive a CR) count for calculating back door Kent? Or are only graded classes considered?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby GoneSouth » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:52 am

I know this has been answered on here, but I can't find it. Is an A+ calculated as 4.0 or 4.33 for Kent purposes?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby MCFC » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:31 am

GoneSouth wrote:I know this has been answered on here, but I can't find it. Is an A+ calculated as 4.0 or 4.33 for Kent purposes?

4.0

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby somethingElse » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:19 am

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:45 pm

MCFC wrote:
GoneSouth wrote:I know this has been answered on here, but I can't find it. Is an A+ calculated as 4.0 or 4.33 for Kent purposes?

4.0


Wait really? I swear I've heard it's 4.33 from multiple people

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby John_Luther1989 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:48 pm

It's only 4.0. Anyone saying otherwise is clueless, has never gotten one, and/or is lying. The "+" is just a little special award for being exceptionally good (although some professors, against policy, give it to the top exam in the class).

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:05 pm

John_Luther1989 wrote:It's only 4.0. Anyone saying otherwise is clueless, has never gotten one, and/or is lying. The "+" is just a little special award for being exceptionally good (although some professors, against policy, give it to the top exam in the class).


I mean even if you get one, how would you know? Do they actually tell you your GPA at some point?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:46 pm

Unrelated -- course list is out for next semester. Any recommendations on what to take 2L Fall vs. later? My priorities to eventually get to are Evidence, Corps, Admin, and FedCourts. Thinking about getting Evidence and Corps out of the way this fall if possible, and wait on Admin for the Spring, along with a seminar, and then FedCourts in 3L. Beyond those, does anything else matter?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby John_Luther1989 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:40 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:
John_Luther1989 wrote:It's only 4.0. Anyone saying otherwise is clueless, has never gotten one, and/or is lying. The "+" is just a little special award for being exceptionally good (although some professors, against policy, give it to the top exam in the class).


I mean even if you get one, how would you know? Do they actually tell you your GPA at some point?


The difference between 4.33 and 4.0 in a class was the difference between Stone and not Stone for me 2L year. I'm intimately familiar with the GPA value (or lack thereof) of an A+

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby lnick93 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:51 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:Unrelated -- course list is out for next semester. Any recommendations on what to take 2L Fall vs. later? My priorities to eventually get to are Evidence, Corps, Admin, and FedCourts. Thinking about getting Evidence and Corps out of the way this fall if possible, and wait on Admin for the Spring, along with a seminar, and then FedCourts in 3L. Beyond those, does anything else matter?


Merrill is brilliant but boring. I would not recommend taking a course with him.

Edit: He is teaching Admin in the Fall.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:53 pm

lnick93 wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:Unrelated -- course list is out for next semester. Any recommendations on what to take 2L Fall vs. later? My priorities to eventually get to are Evidence, Corps, Admin, and FedCourts. Thinking about getting Evidence and Corps out of the way this fall if possible, and wait on Admin for the Spring, along with a seminar, and then FedCourts in 3L. Beyond those, does anything else matter?


Merrill is brilliant but boring. I would not recommend taking a course with him.

Edit: He is teaching Admin in the Fall.


Right, I'm gonna try to wait for Kessler in the spring

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby stoopkid13 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:29 pm

Admin law with Merrill at 9am sounds like just about the worst thing in the world...

Eric Posner is visiting though? Since when was that a thing?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby ugg » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:15 pm

What would a typical 1L fall schedule look like in terms of time slots throughout the week?




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