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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby packer_22 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:51 am

How competitive are the clinics to get into? They all look fairly small? What kinds of things can help you distinguish yourself in order to be selected, for, say, the Adolescent Representation Clinic, or the Mass Incarceration Clinic?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby TheoO » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:33 am

Hey, has anyone here taken Merritt for SecReg? Any pointers? Also, looking for outlines.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:24 pm

TheoO wrote:Hey, has anyone here taken Merritt for SecReg? Any pointers? Also, looking for outlines.

Merritt Fox? It won't be a pleasant experience, especially at the beginning when you dig into the rules. But it gets better after it switches back to the more standard case method.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby MCFC » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:30 pm

Not Fox or even CLS, so use caution, but someone posted a SecReg outline and charts here that looked pretty solid to me. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=257593&p=9004288

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:22 pm

Happy to send my outline to anyone if you send me a PM.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby TheoO » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:38 pm

Also, whats the tcr hornbook for the class? I want to do well in this class... for some reason.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:53 pm

TheoO wrote:Also, whats the tcr hornbook for the class? I want to do well in this class... for some reason.

I used the E&E like I did for most other classes and it worked fine but I don't think it was uniquely amazing or anything.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby TheoO » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:25 pm

God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Nebby » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:56 pm

TheoO wrote:God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...

Lighten you up with booze before they suck your soul. Pretty good strategy

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:50 pm

TheoO wrote:God damn it. I want to go to the 1L receptions so bad.... the Sulcrom one is at a wine bar...


After you spend 40 years with lawyers, you're going to wonder why ANY of it was voluntary.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:23 pm

So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby almondjoy » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:29 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby John_Luther1989 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:38 am

Pre-EIP interviews are becoming significantly more common. Firms love it and it gives students a few bites at the apple. People were rolling in and out of my firm starting in late June, and I've spoken to a significant number of current 2Ls/3Ls who went into EIP with at least 1 offer in the bag.

Go to recruiting events at least to have your name on the attendance sheet. Recruiters keep track and will be more responsive to you in the summer if you showed an interest during the semester. Also, if you can connect with someone on a personal level (Partner isn't necessary; I spoke mostly to younger people), its a lot easier to get brought in early.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Nebby » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:45 am

almondjoy wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

All of this. Also, don't drink too much. Like just keep it at two drinks.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:52 am

Nebby wrote:
almondjoy wrote:
LetsGoMets wrote:So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit

Lots of benefits imo. 1) networking. You never know, may lead to a pre-EIP callback if you hit it off with a partner and keep in touch throughout this semester and the summer. 2) gives you an answer to the inevitable "why this firm" question at EIP. 3) let's you practice shooting the shit with attorneys, which is also an essential EIP tool.

All of this. Also, don't drink too much. Like just keep it at two drinks.


Lol. Two drinks.

Everyone at Cleary's event was blasted my year. Actually same with S&C. Those red rooster harlem mules. And Paul Weiss too, come to think of it. Great place to start the night.

But yea, two drinks is the safe call.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby ugg » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:18 am

Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Nebby » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:29 am

ugg wrote:Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

Admitted students day?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby ugg » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:47 am

Nebby wrote:
ugg wrote:Really excited. I'll be at the one at the end of March.

Admitted students day?

Yeah. Just skimmed and didn't realize you guys were talking about another alcohol related event.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby smaug » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:02 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit


The evening receptions are probably more valuable than the lunches.

I'd go to the evening ones but don't let it stress you out.

As an aside, I remember thinking they would be a waste because I was worried my grades would drop and I'd be below the cutoff for a lot of firms. Don't discount yourself now if your grades are bad (or are good but aren't stellar): you can see an improvement and the cutoff for most firms is lower than you think.

i.e., don't self-sabotage; do go to the events

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby kingpin101 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:29 pm

What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:53 pm

LetsGoMets wrote:So as a 1L should I be going to those?

I mean free food and booze is nice but is there any other benefit


It's a good test to see if you're aspie.

Hint: You are.

Do a fuckload of practice interviews.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby TheoO » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:59 pm

Several interviewers at EIP had a list of names of those who attended these events. Especially if they are small events, it might be worth it to go for at least a little bit, sign your name in, and then just leave if you don't feel like staying.

Don't think the large class firms will care though. Still, a good place to get talking points on the firm. You can also get the cards of attys and name drop them at the interviews.

That said, as a 1L with 4 classes this semester, make sure you know your priorities.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby TheoO » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:00 pm

kingpin101 wrote:What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?


Just look presentable. Don't need a full suit. Business casual is fairly googleable.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby Nebby » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:08 pm

kingpin101 wrote:What's the dress code for firm events if they say "business casual"? Suit? Dress shirt and slacks?

Dress shirt and slacks. No tie or jacket.

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Re: Columbia students taking questions

Postby LetsGoMets » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:06 am

Alright cool, thanks for the input. Will try to make a few of them. I'm guessing if no dress code in the invite, suit is TCR?




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