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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:49 pm

smaug wrote:I think that's really old or really off. Check the eip threads.


like the new prof pic. have you finished s2? I'm like 2 episodes away. i'll probably finish tonight after work.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:54 pm

Sirius Blackstone wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:No one can tell you with complete certainty, but if you run a basic regression with the stone data pt at ~top 35% and 3.3 as median, 3.5 falls around top quarter and 3.6 around top 15%. Then again, stone could be as high as top 40% or as low as top 28%, which would change these values.


I've heard the median is below 3.3, somewhere between 3.2-3.3. I would have a hard time believing it's above 3.3 because something like 35-45% of each class gets a B.

Stone honors for the 1L class is much closer to top 30% than 40%, but like jbagel said its all a mystery.


Honestly I think it balances out to 3.3ish because while there are more B's than any other grade, the added weight of A and A- compensates. So like, there may be only 20-25% of the class getting an A/A- and 40% getting a B, but the A's bring up people's gpa's more than the B's lower them. idk. profs are also giving out less and less B-'s which brings people's averages up a little bit.

this is also assuming all types of grades are evenly distributed amongst all students, which isn't necessarily true.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby smaug_ » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:11 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
smaug wrote:I think that's really old or really off. Check the eip threads.


like the new prof pic. have you finished s2? I'm like 2 episodes away. i'll probably finish tonight after work.


I might have binge watch all of s2 in a day.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby J90 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:18 am

jdapplicant wrote:Thanks again everyone for being so great about responding to questions.

How do we go about asking for them to store furniture if we got stuck with a furnished apartment? Ideally I'd like to go up first and see what furniture is okay and what I'd like to get rid of, at least in my own room, before asking them to store something for me. Also, who would we ask? I think I remember someone mentioning a Super (if that's a thing?).

Also, in regards to maintaining housing assignments, do we have to do anything after paying our housing deposit and before our move-in appointment?


I live on 115th, and each building on that block has a superintendent, or "super." There may be regulations regarding whether or not you can move furniture out, but I got on good terms with mine and he let me play around with the furniture. You'll meet yours the day you move in, if your building has one.

I don't think you need to do anything in between. Can always contact your roommates and figure out what they're bringing/just talk a bit, though.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby Humbert Humbert » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:55 am

When can we expect to receive our 1L fall semester class schedule?

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby JVK » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:53 am

Humbert Humbert wrote:When can we expect to receive our 1L fall semester class schedule?


Orientation!

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby bitcheslovecake » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:08 pm

I signed up for couple's housing but uhmmm... I am no longer 1/2 of a couple. :| :( :oops: Does anyone know if they're going to reassign me if I contact them? What if I just casually showed up on the day I am supposed to sign my lease/move in? I would honestly prefer to keep my apartment and just pay the rent...

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:59 pm

bitcheslovecake wrote:I signed up for couple's housing but uhmmm... I am no longer 1/2 of a couple. :| :( :oops: Does anyone know if they're going to reassign me if I contact them? What if I just casually showed up on the day I am supposed to sign my lease/move in? I would honestly prefer to keep my apartment and just pay the rent...


Sorry to hear about your relationship. You're probably paying minimum $2000 for a couples 1BDR. I would highly recommend switching for that reason alone - it will add another $8000 to your loan tab each year than necessary. But moreover, you will have to show paperwork that you are in a couple (marriage license, active joint bank acct, ect) and get a signature from the significant other when you go to the housing office in August to sign your lease and get your keys.

Then again, I know if one person in the couple leaves part-way through the year, they won't kick you out. Maybe there's some flexibility, but I'm pretty certain you will have to show you are at least a couple at move-in to get the room.

I would call juliana utley ASAP and explain the circumstances.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby lunaraeon » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:37 am

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lunaraeon wrote:If he was going to give anyone a LP, it would have been me.

Do you know what that email was about the other day with "grade changes"? It's an ungraded course, what grade changes could he have to make?? Lol. I didn't email him but I guess others did.

And fyi it would not be you: you showed up.. There were two people who actually just came like twice all semester lol

Haha, oh, GGB. And I don't know, perhaps some people had LPs and were freaking out? Heck, even I would have emailed about an LP, however correct he would have been to give me one.


starrydreamz3 wrote:Silly question, but do they round up for Kent? Like you get 3.78 and you're Kent, or is 3.80 the floor? I'm thinking 3.80 is the floor but just wondering!

Hope this means things went well for you :) In either case, you should start up the 2014 EIP thread. :P I'm still waiting on my last grade and it makes a difference for my bids so I'm not getting into it until probably Monday/Tuesday. Never mind see the thread. Anonymous post to start it off? Lame, whoever that was.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby MCFC » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:45 pm

Anyone take or know anything about Evidence with Schechtman? I see it's a T/F, multiple choice exam. Decent bet it's closed book?

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby JVK » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:48 pm

Anybody know about "C Law and Finance Theories" with Pistor, or alternatively, Deals with Gilson? Thank you!

Also, any insight into which classes you'd need to rank first to get (I'm assuming Jackson's Corporations class will, but outside that?)?

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby smaug_ » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:25 pm

MCFC wrote:Anyone take or know anything about Evidence with Schechtman? I see it's a T/F, multiple choice exam. Decent bet it's closed book?


I think Schectman is open book and Richman is closed book for Evidence exams.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby the_phoenix612 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:11 am

TAKE CAPRA FOR EVIDENCE.

Best class I've had in law school so far.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:10 pm

All grades are in - if we were to qualify for one of the honors designations, where would that show up? I don't see it on the transcript.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby MCFC » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:18 pm

jbagelboy wrote:All grades are in - if we were to qualify for one of the honors designations, where would that show up? I don't see it on the transcript.


If you look through last year's EIP thread, people posted when they had been added to transcripts. Can't recall how long that took after grades came out, but it looked like it wasn't immediate.

EDIT: Last year someone posted on June 29th saying that Stone designations were up on Lawnet. And, fwiw, the next poster said,

Just FYI because this confused me: I don't think honors show up when you just click "Check Grades." I was only able to see it when I selected "Print JD Program Transcript."
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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby Humbert Humbert » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:33 pm

JVK wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:When can we expect to receive our 1L fall semester class schedule?


Orientation!

Thanks. What are the 3 classes that 1Ls take fall semester? I remember seeing the list somewhere but I seem to have forgotten.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:42 pm

MCFC wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:All grades are in - if we were to qualify for one of the honors designations, where would that show up? I don't see it on the transcript.


If you look through last year's EIP thread, people posted when they had been added to transcripts. Can't recall how long that took after grades came out, but it looked like it wasn't immediate.


Okay that makes sense. Do you know if it was before LR/journal results come in? (Firs wk of july?)

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby MCFC » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:45 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
MCFC wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:All grades are in - if we were to qualify for one of the honors designations, where would that show up? I don't see it on the transcript.


If you look through last year's EIP thread, people posted when they had been added to transcripts. Can't recall how long that took after grades came out, but it looked like it wasn't immediate.


Okay that makes sense. Do you know if it was before LR/journal results come in? (Firs wk of july?)


Looks like I was editing my post when you posted. Anyways, to reiterate, last year it was June 29th, which was before journal results. And it only shows up if you go to "Print JD Program Transcript."

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby MCFC » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:51 pm

Humbert Humbert wrote:
JVK wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:When can we expect to receive our 1L fall semester class schedule?


Orientation!

Thanks. What are the 3 classes that 1Ls take fall semester? I remember seeing the list somewhere but I seem to have forgotten.


CivPro for sure, but after that it depends. You can go here to look at the 1L Foundation courses (CivPro, Ks, Torts, ConLaw, Property, Crim). I think most of our class did CivPro, Contracts, Torts last Fall. But some people took ConLaw in the Fall and Contracts or Torts in the spring.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby mylifeis24 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:19 pm

Question for all you awesome 2Ls and 3Ls: Do you recommend purchasing a nice tailored suit now, or wait? I have the money in my accout to pull the trigger now ($700ish). On those same lines, any reputable tailors and dry cleaners in the area?

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:32 pm

MCFC wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:
JVK wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:When can we expect to receive our 1L fall semester class schedule?


Orientation!

Thanks. What are the 3 classes that 1Ls take fall semester? I remember seeing the list somewhere but I seem to have forgotten.


CivPro for sure, but after that it depends. You can go here to look at the 1L Foundation courses (CivPro, Ks, Torts, ConLaw, Property, Crim). I think most of our class did CivPro, Contracts, Torts last Fall. But some people took ConLaw in the Fall and Contracts or Torts in the spring.


I'm pretty sure everyone had Torts. It was just K's that shifted; one section had property in the fall, another had con law.

but yea, as MCFC said, you don't really know which 3 it will be from year to year, section to section

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby lunaraeon » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:41 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
MCFC wrote:
Humbert Humbert wrote:Thanks. What are the 3 classes that 1Ls take fall semester? I remember seeing the list somewhere but I seem to have forgotten.

CivPro for sure, but after that it depends. You can go here to look at the 1L Foundation courses (CivPro, Ks, Torts, ConLaw, Property, Crim). I think most of our class did CivPro, Contracts, Torts last Fall. But some people took ConLaw in the Fall and Contracts or Torts in the spring.

I'm pretty sure everyone had Torts. It was just K's that shifted; one section had property in the fall, another had con law.

but yea, as MCFC said, you don't really know which 3 it will be from year to year, section to section

Based on the course calendar, you for sure have civil procedure in the fall. But con law, property, contracts, torts all have sections in the fall and spring. Contracts and torts are heavily weighted to the winter (though you'd be lucky to have the one torts section in the winter, it's with Huang), property is heavily weighted to the fall, con law is split. And crim is only in the spring.

mylifeis24 wrote:Question for all you awesome 2Ls and 3Ls: Do you recommend purchasing a nice tailored suit now, or wait? I have the money in my accout to pull the trigger now ($700ish). On those same lines, any reputable tailors and dry cleaners in the area?

I'd buy it now, if you don't plan to change your size any time soon :) You'll have use for it throughout the year, and it's good to have something you're comfortable in. You'll likely wear it for your 1L job, too, and I hated having to make a mad rush to find a suit during write-on. But you could also hold off until winter break if you have a suit already that you're happy wearing for school and firm events.

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby mylifeis24 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:20 pm

mylifeis24 wrote:Question for all you awesome 2Ls and 3Ls: Do you recommend purchasing a nice tailored suit now, or wait? I have the money in my accout to pull the trigger now ($700ish). On those same lines, any reputable tailors and dry cleaners in the area?


lunaraeon wrote:I'd buy it now, if you don't plan to change your size any time soon :) You'll have use for it throughout the year, and it's good to have something you're comfortable in. You'll likely wear it for your 1L job, too, and I hated having to make a mad rush to find a suit during write-on. But you could also hold off until winter break if you have a suit already that you're happy wearing for school and firm events.


Yeah, I have 3 relatively cheap suits that I've worn for other jobs before- nothing fancy but with a bit of altering to refit my shape they should be fine. I think waiting until winter break is probably a good idea. I've googled some tailors in NY and one reputable one offers free readjustements if your size changes. http://www.yelp.com/biz/alterations-mas ... p-new-york

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby BigLaw_Lit » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:21 pm

http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/ ... riculum/1l

According to this everyone has torts, civil procedure and contracts in the fall. Is that not accurate then?

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Re: Columbia 1L(s) taking questions

Postby starrydreamz3 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:11 pm

BigLaw_Lit wrote:http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/jd/learn/curriculum/1l

According to this everyone has torts, civil procedure and contracts in the fall. Is that not accurate then?


Yeah that's not always true. While that was my setup, some of my friends had property first semester and contracts second. I think crim and torts might have also been switched too for some people.




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