UMN-3L wrote:Re: the Spartan reference. Simmer down; I was poking a little fun at you. (And yes, you "got me" about placing the apostrophe in the wrong place in "Athens." I had real work to do today, so I didn't spend too much time laboring over my response. However, I studied Classics in undergrad, so I am more likely to refer to the city as "Athenai" in Roman characters, if attempting to be serious.)
Great. Very impressive. Keep it up.
UMN-3L wrote:I'd like to reiterate, Daniel, that I did not start this thread to attack you. I am merely offering an alternative perspective because I disagree with what you said on your thread. Just as you have a right to share your opinion, I have the right to critique and disagree with it. I admonished your behavior in the beginning of this thread in an attempt to spell out for you the damage you were (and still are) doing to your professional reputation; I was concerned that you didn't understand how permanent a stain your behavior on this forum may turn out to be. (But why you believe that knowledge of the multimedia campaign you have launched against the school will remain in the Twin Cities legal community, especially when you chose the internet as the medium of your attack, I still do not know.) This, of course, is before you informed me that you had decided to commit professional suicide. You're right, it's none of my business.
Yup. It is none of your business, but there you go again, telling me what's good for me anyway -- as if being in law school for one year more than me somehow makes you so much more of an "expert" about the legal profession. Yeah, that may be one count against law school generally: this bizarre culture of supplication to seniority. I suspect that's probably the same at any school. I guess I have that to look forward to next year. I can condescendingly lecture 2Ls about what life is like in the fast lane, and tell them all about what a judge would do if they pulled that crap in a courtroom, or how that sort of conduct won't cut it at a law firm. Sounds fun. I guess that's just the circle of life and all. When a 3L acts like a condescending douchebag, it's called "mentoring."
As to the "damage" I'm doing to my "professional reputation"? "Permanent stain"? The only damage to my legal career has been the result of the idiotic policies of a brain-dead administration, applied to my particular case with the finesse and care of a wrecking ball. And just to set the record straight, the only "permanent stain" I have to contend with are the words "University of Minnesota Law School" on my resumé.
UMN-3L wrote:You are the one who came onto this thread and began referring to me quite derisively as "guy," (by the way, I'm actually a "girl"), "jerk," and now, apparently, "Beavus." (And after all of those holier-than-thou chastisements to other posters for using ad hominem attacks. Tsk, tsk, Daniel.)
Nice. "Tsk, tsk." Being the expert on good conduct that you are, I'm sure you realize that saying "Tsk, tsk" always yields a positive reaction, right? I'm so sorry that I was being holier-than-thou. Maybe if I offered you career advice, you'd forgive me?
And calling you "guy," or "jerk," is not an ad hominem attack. In fact, even if I just flat-out insulted you, that would still not be an ad hominem attack. Look it up. Ad hominem argumentation is a form of fallacious reasoning. It does not simply mean "being insulting" to the other person, or whatever you imagine it means, in the haze of your dementia. I have not launched into any ad hominem fallacies against you. That would be like if I said, "UMN-3L is a myopic, small-minded twit, whose life probably revolves around looking for 'senior partner' asses to kiss, therefore UMN is a bad school." That would be an ad hominem argument, because the premise does not entail the conclusion (ergo, it is inferentially invalid), and it is intended to confuse people into discounting the substance of what you said by attacking your character or your motives for saying it. That is ad hominem argumentation.
And I never called you "Beavis."
UMN-3L wrote:I've responded by teasing you because I think that you take yourself entirely too seriously. Compared to some of the people I've known in the law school community who have faced challenges to their success, terminal illness of a close family member, suicide of a childhood friend, substance abuse by a significant other, etc. your persecution complex comes off as rather frivolous. In your first year of law school, you ignored the administration's numerous emails reminding you to download ExamSoft and therefore missed the window. Too bad, but not the most sympathetic story I've heard.
What's your point? So, because some law students had personal problems or had a relative get cancer or whatever, I'm not allowed to complain about facially unfair policies? What's the connection? I don't get it. Student X's best friend from childhood committed suicide, therefore the Examsoft policy is fair? Student Y's sister gets AIDS, therefore UMN is not an ugly school? What?
By your reasoning, no one should ever go to see a doctor, complaining of allergies, because someone in the other room might have leukemia. What in the world are you thinking?
And you still don't seem to be able to get it through your head that I've given many other reasons why this school is terrible. Indeed, I gave them in my post above, which you ignore, pretending that my only complaints are the exam policy and the ugliness of the school. Truly, those are odious factors, which are cause for much complaint, but I never suggested that those alone were significant factors in choosing whether to come here, and despite your repeated efforts to make it seem as though these are the principal complaints, you can't change the fact that it just ain't so, and anyone who can use a scroll wheel can easily see through your little feint.
UMN-3L wrote:However, I can see from the degree of anger in your response that you seem to feel that you were persecuted by the administration, and you appear to regard yourself as an iconoclastic rebel who, like David vis-a-vis Goliath, is singlehandedly challenging the establishment to further student rights. It is entirely valid for you to present that viewpoint of yourself and your narrative. But it is equally valid for me to say that I think that your vendetta is frivolous. This is how free speech works. (In fact, we have a First Amendment class which devotes a large chunk of time to this subject, if you're interested.)
What? "David vis-a-vis Goliath"? "Challenging the establishment to further student rights"? What!? You've got this whole narrative cooked up about who I am, apparently. I can see by the degree of fury from your response that you feel quite flustered and confused by this whole situation. Please, calm down. You can't imagine the damage you're doing to your career. Allow me to explain:
I feel like UMN is a crappy school. I felt this way before the exam mess (yet another fact that I've pointed out, and which you conveniently "forget"). In fact, I felt that UMN was a pretty crappy law school from as early as orientation, and my impression of it has gotten steadily worse. This is not the "angry" response you seem to believe it is. To the contrary, I am happy to concede that the professors are generally excellent, and that UMN is dominant in the regional market (although the regional market cannot support the number of law students graduating every year). So you see, I am perfectly happy to acknowledge the merits of UMN. It's just too bad that UMN has so few of them.
I do not care about "student rights." I'm not out to change the school. It's pretty clear that the school doesn't change for anything less than a petition signed by 90% of the students and threats of walk-outs. Frankly, I don't think that the administrators running the school are mentally capable of the introspection, reflection, and self-critical reassessment necessary to effect even the slightest change. I do not see myself as David fighting Goliath.
I see myself as a wee little grasshopper, who got stuck in a spider's web, who's warning all the other bugs crawling by to steer clear. I'm the guy who's telling people not to answer that random unsolicited email from a Nigerian "prince," promising millions of dollars if you'll let him "borrow" your bank account. I'm the guy who was stupid enough to be suckered by a big scholarship into attending UMN, and now I'm telling people what I wish someone had told me before I made the colossal mistake of accepting admission at this joke of an educational institution.
I picked a crappy school, based on a big scholarship and the mistaken impression that rank 20 meant it would be okay. It's not. It shouldn't be in the T1, much less rank 20. The school is shit. I think that information would have been helpful to me back when I was a 0L, so I'm sharing it with others, in the hopes that it may be helpful to them. Pictures (and video) saying more than mere words, I've tried to back that up with some documentation, so that no one needs to "believe" me -- they can see for themselves.
UMN-3L wrote:I wish you all success in your future endeavors, Daniel, and--joking aside--I hope that your actions on this forum have no lasting negative impact on your life. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Thank you so much for that. Really. I hope you have a great career, too. And I hope no one discovers your identity, lest your writings here do permanent damage to your career.
UMN-3L wrote:FYI, in the interest of making one last playful jab at you, I thought I would repost an email the school administration sent out today. I immediately thought of you when I saw it:
Yeah, that's hilarious. I'll bet you're real fun at parties.