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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby delusional » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:31 pm

thederangedwang wrote:where would you go about acquiring old student outlines? do you just ask 2L or 3L students or is there a place to buy/get them?
I have had mixed success generally getting old outlines. If you know older students you can ask them, but the odds are that they didn't have the same professors that you did. Another source is affinity groups like BLSA, HALB, ACS etc - I think most ask that you "join" either by signing up or showing up for a few events, and then they open up their outline bank to you. There are also some randomly available online. You can google, and you'll get the important ones in your first few results.

If you are sure that a recycled outline is the way to go, be sure to start searching early and try everything. It may be difficult to find outlines for a visiting professor, or a young professor, etc. That is one reason why doing it yourself as you take notes throughout the semester has an advantage.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby acrossthelake » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:48 pm

I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby thederangedwang » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:05 pm

acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

groups like study groups or associations like delusional mentioned?

Also,care to share which group you were in that had these banks?

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby delusional » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:10 pm

acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

I guess that's one advantage of having friends.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby Applying_Late » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:13 pm

delusional wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

I guess that's one advantage of having friends.


Woah! There is bartering going on at H? I would have thought that students would be altruistic and give outlines to help the ailing student.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby delusional » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:17 pm

Applying_Late wrote:
delusional wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

I guess that's one advantage of having friends.


Woah! There is bartering going on at H? I would have thought that students would be altruistic and give outlines to help the ailing student.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you misinterpreted what I was trying to say, or what. I just meant that me not being so socially active may have made it harder for me to find outlines.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby Applying_Late » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:24 pm

delusional wrote:
Applying_Late wrote:
delusional wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

I guess that's one advantage of having friends.


Woah! There is bartering going on at H? I would have thought that students would be altruistic and give outlines to help the ailing student.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you misinterpreted what I was trying to say, or what. I just meant that me not being so socially active may have made it harder for me to find outlines.


Woops, I misquoted. I meant to quote acrossthelake. As far your friend vs. nonfriend thing, I would just send emails to people in your section or just ask them in class. Ask until you get an outline. If you are too shy to do that, just write the outline yourself.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby acrossthelake » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:32 pm

Applying_Late wrote:
Woah! There is bartering going on at H? I would have thought that students would be altruistic and give outlines to help the ailing student.


Ah, that's sort of a misinterpretation of what I said, which was mostly a communication failure on my point. I don't think that anybody who gave me outlines would have refused if I hadn't offered anything in return, I just didn't want to come off as a leech with fellow 1Ls, esp. the ones in my section.

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acrossthelake wrote:I managed to get old outlines for all my classes. For the ones where the prof was new or visiting, my prof usually announced in class "my exam will be like Prof X's exam", and I got outlines from that prof. Two of the groups I was in had exam banks and I traded for outlines from other banks with friends in different sections. "I'll give you the outlines you need from X's bank if you give me the ones I need from Y's bank."

groups like study groups or associations like delusional mentioned?

Also,care to share which group you were in that had these banks?



My study group had a dropbox where we dumped in any and all outlines we could either make or find. But I got most of my outlines from upperclassmen I was friends with or exam banks from orgs I was in and was the main contributor to our dropbox. It's not much of a secret which ones have banks.

HLCentral (same group that organizes Bar Review)
The two warring semi-political groups: FedSoc and American Constitution Society
Any ethnic/identity association: APALSA, BLSA, WLA, etc.
Some journals
Some SPOs

Don't really want to out which orgs I was in, but I suppose it's not very much outing to admit that I am a girl and therefore grabbed stuff from the Women's Law Association. I was at least an outline-accessing member of 5 of the groups listed above, and 4 of them had banks. I said two up above, because I didn't initially count HLCentral(because *everyone* is a member of HLCentral) or WLA (because most women join that...)

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:16 pm

acrossthelake wrote:My study group had a dropbox where we dumped in any and all outlines we could either make or find. But I got most of my outlines from upperclassmen I was friends with or exam banks from orgs I was in and was the main contributor to our dropbox. It's not much of a secret which ones have banks.

HLCentral (same group that organizes Bar Review)
The two warring semi-political groups: FedSoc and American Constitution Society
Any ethnic association: APALSA, BLSA, WLA, etc.
Some journals
Some SPOs

Don't really want to out which orgs I was in, but I suppose it's not very much outing to admit that I am a girl and therefore grabbed stuff from the Women's Law Association. I was at least an outline-accessing member of 5 of the groups listed above, and 4 of them had banks.

Thank you for this information. I had no idea this is how things are done...

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Re: Harvard Rising 2L Taking Questions

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:30 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:Thank you for this information. I had no idea this is how things are done...


I think a lot of people make their own outlines 1L year. I just didn't think it helped me personally so I didn't really bother outside of one or two classes somewhat, so I had to find outlines made by other people. It's not like you *have* to find old outlines or that it's necessary to do well, but it is fairly necessary if you don't want to make your own.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:50 am

Is there anyone here who's been a RA before or currently is?

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby KindleNexusfan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:53 pm

any idea when 2L grades will come out this year?

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby ph14 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:55 pm

KindleNexusfan wrote:any idea when 2L grades will come out this year?


Came out 1/26 last year, which translates to 1/31 this year. They come out on the same day as 1L grades, I believe.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby thelawschoolproject » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:50 am

ph14 wrote:
KindleNexusfan wrote:any idea when 2L grades will come out this year?


Came out 1/26 last year, which translates to 1/31 this year. They come out on the same day as 1L grades, I believe.


FWIW, I was told our 1L grades "should" be out 1/28 by 5:00 pm by my OCS adivsor.... although, I have no idea how credible that is.

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Re: Harvard 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:51 pm

In that case, my guess is between 2 and 4pm on 01/28. :lol:

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:21 pm

thelawschoolproject wrote:FWIW, I was told our 1L grades "should" be out 1/28 by 5:00 pm by my OCS adivsor.... although, I have no idea how credible that is.


that's some bullshit...just release the damn things already...

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:53 pm

thelawschoolproject wrote:FWIW, I was told our 1L grades "should" be out 1/28 by 5:00 pm by my OCS adivsor.... although, I have no idea how credible that is.


isn't that the first day of class?...that should be fun

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby ph14 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:54 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
thelawschoolproject wrote:FWIW, I was told our 1L grades "should" be out 1/28 by 5:00 pm by my OCS adivsor.... although, I have no idea how credible that is.


isn't that the first day of class?...that should be fun


Yup. Also, I really wish grades came out quicker so I could decide whether I should take another class with a prof. Oh well.

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby KindleNexusfan » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:17 pm

ph14 wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
thelawschoolproject wrote:FWIW, I was told our 1L grades "should" be out 1/28 by 5:00 pm by my OCS adivsor.... although, I have no idea how credible that is.


isn't that the first day of class?...that should be fun


Yup. Also, I really wish grades came out quicker so I could decide whether I should take another class with a prof. Oh well.

um, add/drop?

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Re: Harvard Rising 2Ls Taking Questions

Postby ph14 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:19 pm

KindleNexusfan wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:isn't that the first day of class?...that should be fun


Yup. Also, I really wish grades came out quicker so I could decide whether I should take another class with a prof. Oh well.

um, add/drop?


Classes fill up.




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