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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby nylawyer488 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:23 pm

ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby bk1 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:24 pm

nylawyer488 wrote:ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms


At all of those schools (even at Fordham/BLS/Cardozo) you should be focused on keeping cost as low as possible with minimal scholarship stipulations.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:25 pm

romothesavior wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby bk1 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:27 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay


Boom! Lawyered.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:28 pm

bk1 wrote:
nylawyer488 wrote:ok so instead of all this nonsense bickering, what are some viable options for a ny law school aside from the tops like fordham, nyu, columbia, brooklyn and cardozo?

what about schools like pace, cuny, nylaw, hofstra, touro, syracuse? i heard pace is in a great area, nice campus, 30 minutes from city and is top 5 for programs like environmental law. a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms


At all of those schools (even at Fordham/BLS/Cardozo) you should be focused on keeping cost as low as possible with minimal scholarship stipulations.

If you have something lined up for sure after law school, then go to CUNY and keep your costs minimal. All the schools teach the same law.
What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:28 pm

bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:I don't know anything about those schools except St. Johns which is a decent option (Don't take advice from the people who got 170-180 on their LSAT...they are all elitists at Ivys that think it is impossible to get a job otherwise...)

Yeah, my professor who used to teach at St. John's and deal with throngs of unemployed 3Ls with 200k in debt (pre-ITE too) is a real Ivy elitist with no idea what St. John's is like.

Also, I love how anyone who actually has a grasp on the shitstorm economy is just an "Ivy elitist." I've never stepped foot on an Ivy campus. Hell, I'm not even at a T14.

Just keep telling yourself what you want to hear, coolgrnmen. Don't let reality get in the way of your ad hominems.

Hearsay


Boom! Lawyered.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby bk1 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:30 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD


You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:37 pm

nylawyer488 wrote:
romothesavior wrote:I hate to break it to ya, but going to any of those schools will require you to change your name from "nylawyer" to "unemployednylawgraduatewithlotsofdebt."


dont make assumptions dick face

Yeah!

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:38 pm

bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD


You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:51 pm

Judge Judy makes like 20 million a year. If you shift some numbers around and ignore reporting bias I think that could work out to a 500k average salary from NYLS. Not too shabby at all.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby bk1 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:55 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD


You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...


They aren't positives in the sense that they don't make up for high tuition and dismal employment.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:59 pm

bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:
bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:What NYLS does have is a huge enrollment, high tuition, and one of the largest class choices for electives. They can do that because of the large class size...but don't pay sticker if you have a job lined up no matter where you get your JD


You say those things, especially the second one, like they are positives.

Agree, my sentence construction was bad because I got lazy and didn't want to change it.
1st and 3rd were positives, 2nd is a negative...
I was just listing things to consider...


They aren't positives in the sense that they don't make up for high tuition and dismal employment.

I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby bk1 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:00 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.


If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:12 pm

bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.


If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

Unless they want to take specific courses...the huge enrollment created the large course selection.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:18 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
bk1 wrote:
Coolgrnmen wrote:I was specifically addressing the person with a job lined up at a firm. A positive point doesn't necessarily negate a negative and I didn't intend for it to be that way.


If one has a job lined there is only one positive/negative to consider: cost.

Unless they want to take specific courses...the huge enrollment created the large course selection.

No.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby nylawyer488 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:53 pm

so what do any of you people know about pace law school?

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby joemoviebuff » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:55 pm

nylawyer488 wrote:so what do any of you people know about pace law school?


I know that most people on here won't have anything positive to say about it.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby zanda » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:10 pm

eh. edit. pretty much already covered.
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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby zanda » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:12 pm

nylawyer488 wrote: a lot of this discuss hinges on these big law jobs but doesnt it occur to people out there that you can still make ALOT of money outside this generally hellish market in these giant firms

It occurred to me before I started researching the market as a 0L. Then I realized I was mistaken. The big money jobs are in big law. Other jobs might be able to pay a livable salary (these jobs won't be easy to get either, especially out of terrible law schools), but that generally requires a) previous wealth b) good LRAP program or c) scholarship allows student to avoid significant debt.
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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby lawfreak » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:30 pm

Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:36 pm

lawfreak wrote:Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

Yep...

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby romothesavior » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:36 pm

joemoviebuff wrote:
nylawyer488 wrote:so what do any of you people know about pace law school?


I know that most people on here won't have anything positive to say about it.

Pretty much this.

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby lawfreak » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:04 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:
lawfreak wrote:Let me get this straight. Some genious on this thread is saying that you're better off going to NYLS as opposed to Hofstra which is middle TT school!?

Yep...


Explain yourself!

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Coolgrnmen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:17 pm

Anyone have questions a 1L can answer?

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Re: New York Law School (NYLS) 1L

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:22 pm

Coolgrnmen wrote:Anyone have questions a 1L can answer?

What % of 2L's have summer associateships this upcoming summer?




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