Coolgrnmen wrote: Lawst wrote: Coolgrnmen wrote:
Lawst wrote:Can I just throw out there that St. John's is another viable choice in the NYC market over NYLS? It's definitely not a fantastic choice for this saturated market. It's ranked 72nd, which puts it behind CLS, NYU, Fordham, Cardozo and Brooklyn. But at Tier 2, it is a much better alternative to NYLS.
I live in New York and NYLS is the only school in the city that I refused to apply to. I guess a few of their grads get biglaw jobs since it's in Manhattan, but its reputation is not good.
Also? SJU is very generous with schollys. It's one of my safetys and I'm in with 30K.
Anyway, good luck, OP, with your transfer.
so does that mean you applied to CUNY? Please tell me you didn't...
Yep, I did. I'm going into public interest, so it's not a terrible alternative for me either, and it's the only state school in the city, so the tuition is insanely inexpensive. I'm in at CUNY and waiting to hear back from 13 other schools all around the East Coast, so who knows where I'll end up.
Eh, PI makes sense...good call not applying to NYLS...wouldn't be worth it
Good luck, hope u get into your reach
Wait, so you concede NYLS isn't worth it for people doing PI, yet you think NYLS is worth it at sticker for other (non-insanely wealthy) people? You've conceded that essentially nobody out of NYLS is getting big law. If you then consider the bimodal distribution, people are either using LRAP (if NYLS has one- do they?) or IBR. For a kid 200k in debt (before interest) the pay difference between someone doing PI and someone on the short end of the private practice stick isn't so significant.
FWIW, in my summer experiences I've worked with people from other T14, from BLS, and a bunch from CUNY. Obviously that's just anecdotal, but I've never heard of anyone I know working with NYLS students. In fact, of the few NYLS students I know, half casually told me they weren't even trying to look for 1L summer work because no firms hire 1Ls and they didn't want to spend a summer doing public interest, as if spending 1L summer doing nothing was totally fine. I didn't know if I should try to help those people but figured it was probably too late.