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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Cobretti » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:08 pm

KremeCheez wrote:Speaking of Silver's BA...

It seems there is a very large LLM contingent in the class. Are the LLMs on the same curve?

They were in Lutz's BA

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby GoCats56 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:38 pm

Cobretti wrote:
KremeCheez wrote:Speaking of Silver's BA...

It seems there is a very large LLM contingent in the class. Are the LLMs on the same curve?

They were in Lutz's BA


Yes, they are on the same curve. Always and forever.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Charger » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:58 pm

GoCats56 wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
KremeCheez wrote:Speaking of Silver's BA...

It seems there is a very large LLM contingent in the class. Are the LLMs on the same curve?

They were in Lutz's BA


Yes, they are on the same curve. Always and forever.


I think LLMs can petition for extra time on exams.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 382piccadilly » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:04 pm

For Silver's BA course I'd recommend a corporations e&e, acing BA, and the case supplement which is keyed to the textbook. I have all of these, PM if you're interested in buying. they're also available in the bookstore.

The key to her class is being extremely thorough in all analyses. For example, if an exam asks you whether you would recommend X business organization for a specific situation, you will be in great shape if you can discuss why/why not X works and why the other organizations do/do not work. Given the level of detail required, it was a tough exam because of the time constraint but substantively manageable.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby VulcanVulcanVulcan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:04 pm

Charger wrote:
GoCats56 wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
KremeCheez wrote:Speaking of Silver's BA...

It seems there is a very large LLM contingent in the class. Are the LLMs on the same curve?

They were in Lutz's BA


Yes, they are on the same curve. Always and forever.


I think LLMs can petition for extra time on exams.


I'm pretty sure LLMs automatically get an hour or two extra for a three-hour exam if they are not a native English speaker.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Holly Golightly » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:57 pm

They don't get it automatically. I knew an LLM who was not a native English speaker (but who spoke perfect English) and did not get extra time.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby MT Cicero » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:02 am

Is there an area at the school with a fridge/microwave for students?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby cookiejar1 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:12 am

MT Cicero wrote:Is there an area at the school with a fridge/microwave for students?

Levy Mayer basement although beware the Lake Share Bandit.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:32 pm

Well, I'm glad I got my ITP trip in before DRod got his stupid hands on it. "higher level of academic rigor," barf. And he called it the wrong thing in the subject of the email. "Intensive Team Project."

1. The cost to students to participate in ITP will be reduced by: requiring that travel expenses for an ITP not exceed $5,000; allowing students to book their own airfare using miles or other discount programs; and allowing students to bypass the use of a travel agent to destinations that we know well and are easy to navigate.

Two weeks in Africa, booked by a travel agent, cost me like $5000. And we got the miles (if we had were a member of whatever airline.)

Also, what exactly is the point of ITP trips to "destinations that we know well and are easy to navigate"? Get ready for your exciting learning experiences in the fascinating and exotic city of...CLEVELAND!

And how does one get a grade for a Spring term class if the travel is the two weeks after May exams?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby wojo98 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:37 pm

LULZ Litvak's BA class is 80% LLMs. Thought I was in the wrong place.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby whereskyle » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:48 pm

So just had Lupo for my first contracts class. I never need to take notes in class, huh?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby ghostoftraynor » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:40 pm

I don't know about Lupo, but I'd say note taking is generally a waste of time unless you have a teacher like Redish who disagrees with the consensus (aka what your supplements will tell you).

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Micdiddy » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:17 pm

ghostoftraynor wrote:I don't know about Lupo, but I'd say note taking is generally a waste of time unless you have a teacher like Redish who disagrees with the consensus (aka what your supplements will tell you).


I could not disagree more. I used my notes extensively in studying. But different things work for different people.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zozin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:52 pm

wojo98 wrote:LULZ Litvak's BA class is 80% LLMs. Thought I was in the wrong place.

The roster on Canvas is really lulzy.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby cookiejar1 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:21 am

ghostoftraynor wrote:I don't know about Lupo, but I'd say note taking is generally a waste of time unless you have a teacher like Redish who disagrees with the consensus (aka what your supplements will tell you).
Micdiddy wrote:
ghostoftraynor wrote:I don't know about Lupo, but I'd say note taking is generally a waste of time unless you have a teacher like Redish who disagrees with the consensus (aka what your supplements will tell you).


I could not disagree more. I used my notes extensively in studying. But different things work for different people.


This. There isn't one way to succeed in law school.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Kikero » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:38 am

rinkrat19 wrote:Well, I'm glad I got my ITP trip in before DRod got his stupid hands on it. "higher level of academic rigor," barf. And he called it the wrong thing in the subject of the email. "Intensive Team Project."

1. The cost to students to participate in ITP will be reduced by: requiring that travel expenses for an ITP not exceed $5,000; allowing students to book their own airfare using miles or other discount programs; and allowing students to bypass the use of a travel agent to destinations that we know well and are easy to navigate.

Two weeks in Africa, booked by a travel agent, cost me like $5000. And we got the miles (if we had were a member of whatever airline.)

Also, what exactly is the point of ITP trips to "destinations that we know well and are easy to navigate"? Get ready for your exciting learning experiences in the fascinating and exotic city of...CLEVELAND!

And how does one get a grade for a Spring term class if the travel is the two weeks after May exams?


Also, professors pick the destinations now, right? I thought the coolest thing about the program was that if you could find other people who wanted to go somewhere, you could go there. Is there even a point to being a group leader now?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby d cooper » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:47 pm

tigress12 wrote:Thanks for everyone's inputs so far! Any more info/advice about these professors?

Property -Shoked
Torts -Shapo
Civ Pro - Provenzano
Contracts - Nzelibe


Does anyone have any supplement suggestions for the above? (Besides Shapo's own hornbook.)

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Cobretti » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:59 pm

d cooper wrote:
tigress12 wrote:Thanks for everyone's inputs so far! Any more info/advice about these professors?

Property -Shoked
Torts -Shapo
Civ Pro - Provenzano
Contracts - Nzelibe


Does anyone have any supplement suggestions for the above? (Besides Shapo's own hornbook.)

SuePro has never taught civ pro but based on how she taught employment law she's probably going to actually focus on the rules more than other professors. I would think that the glannon guide would be perfect as its just a generic supplement for everything. However, if she goes all out with powerpoint like she did in employment law, you might not need any supplements at all.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bananasplit19 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:05 pm

d cooper wrote:
tigress12 wrote:Thanks for everyone's inputs so far! Any more info/advice about these professors?

Property -Shoked
Torts -Shapo
Civ Pro - Provenzano
Contracts - Nzelibe


Does anyone have any supplement suggestions for the above? (Besides Shapo's own hornbook.)

In my experience, there wasn't a real good supplement that was completely on point for Shoked. Just do the reading, endure the fear of getting cold-cocked cold-called, and the material itself shouldn't be too hard to pick up.

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Postby onionz » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:09 pm

d cooper wrote:
tigress12 wrote:Thanks for everyone's inputs so far! Any more info/advice about these professors?

Property -Shoked
Torts -Shapo
Civ Pro - Provenzano
Contracts - Nzelibe


Does anyone have any supplement suggestions for the above? (Besides Shapo's own hornbook.)


I did not use a supplement for Nzelibe, but I remember he recommended a small one that could be read in one day, but the people in my study group who saw it were kinda meh about it.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zugzwanger » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:16 am

d cooper wrote:
tigress12 wrote:Thanks for everyone's inputs so far! Any more info/advice about these professors?

Property -Shoked
Torts -Shapo
Civ Pro - Provenzano
Contracts - Nzelibe


Does anyone have any supplement suggestions for the above? (Besides Shapo's own hornbook.)


Understanding Property -- Sprankling is a good one and you can just get the ebook on your comp:

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Pro ... g+property

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby d cooper » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:31 am

Thanks, all.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby odela » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:38 am

Contract - Kadens
Civ pro - Waterstone
Tort - Frakes
Crim - Rubinowitz

Any outlines for Kadens and Rubinowitz would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby LePeanut » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:11 pm

Criminal - Tuerkheimer
Torts - DiCola
Civ Pro - Redish
Contracts - Lupo

Any outlines would be much appreciated and repaid with coffee!

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Dr. Filth » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:13 pm

LePeanut wrote:Criminal - Tuerkheimer
Torts - DiCola
Civ Pro - Redish
Contracts - Lupo

Any outlines would be much appreciated and repaid with coffee!

there are redish ones on the outline bank that you will be given access to that are better than anything else imo




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