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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bjsesq » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
bjsesq wrote:This is your weekly reminder that Ron Allen is a narcissistic toolbox. Thank you for your attention, and remember: deliver a little snark to his arrogant ass when you can to keep him at least somewhat honest.


Tell me where on this doll did Ron Allen touch you.


It certainly wasn't the heart.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zugzwanger » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:25 pm

rayiner wrote:
Bumi wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:It also creates an arms race where students have to avoid classes with a risk of an A- in order to keep up with their grade-inflating brethren.


Yet we really don't know which ones those are. Every six months in this thread you see people warning people not to assume that tiny uncurved classes are automatic A grades.


I think Vulcan has it backwards. NU's curve rewards people who turn in one of the best exams in each of several classes, even if they get a random lower grade here and there. UVA's curve rewards people who consistently turn in an excellent exam, and never get a random lower grade.


How come -- you mean just because the curve is higher than one off grade won't make the GPA look horrible? I don't know UVA's curve

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rayiner » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:38 pm

zugzwanger wrote:
rayiner wrote:
Bumi wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:It also creates an arms race where students have to avoid classes with a risk of an A- in order to keep up with their grade-inflating brethren.


Yet we really don't know which ones those are. Every six months in this thread you see people warning people not to assume that tiny uncurved classes are automatic A grades.


I think Vulcan has it backwards. NU's curve rewards people who turn in one of the best exams in each of several classes, even if they get a random lower grade here and there. UVA's curve rewards people who consistently turn in an excellent exam, and never get a random lower grade.


How come -- you mean just because the curve is higher than one off grade won't make the GPA look horrible? I don't know UVA's curve


UVA has no A+, although it's overall A range is similar. Compare two students over four classes. Student A's exams are top 5%, top 5%, top 10%, top 25%. Student B is top 12-15% in each class. At both places, student B would have a 4.0. At NU, student A would have a 4.08 (2 A+, A, A-), better than student B. At UVA, student A would have a 3.92, worse than student B.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bananasplit19 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:20 pm

M458 wrote:
LRGhost wrote:
zugzwanger wrote:word on the street is OCS is burning the midnight oil trying to get the career data out to us before sunrise tomorrow


lol


Maybe if we're lucky we'll get it after OCI.

Asked my CSO about these last week. Got a response this morning saying they'll be up next week. Anyone want to put money on whether they beat the July 4th holiday?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zugzwanger » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:55 pm

They'll probably release the data in tandem with the fireworks -- The Stars and Stripes Forever!

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby d cooper » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:08 pm

Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Aine » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:15 pm

d cooper wrote:Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?


Yes sir. In the basement of Levy Mayer.

Also, hi Bumi!

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:58 pm

d cooper wrote:Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?


There's a fridge. And fridge thieving bandit

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Pokemon » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:59 pm

splitmuch wrote:
d cooper wrote:Is there a kitchen on campus? Or at least a fridge?


There's a fridge. And fridge thieving bandit


There is a 50% chance the bandit graduated...

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bdubs » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:03 pm

For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bjsesq » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:05 pm

bdubs wrote:For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/


Awesome news.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zugzwanger » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:50 pm

Yeah that's fantastic news -- good stuff!

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:58 pm

smartest person i encountered during law school by a mile.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby VulcanVulcanVulcan » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:38 pm

Flips88 wrote:smartest person i encountered during law school by a mile.


Agreed.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bricktemplar » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:52 pm

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby onionz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:04 pm

bricktemplar wrote:Wait. Are these numbers for post-3L, or post-1L? I.e., if Coif is > 3.96 at graduation, does anyone have any idea what the top 20%, 10%, top 5%, etc., grades are after 1L year? (I know someone's posted a rough breakdown some pages back, but it seems like you guys are suggesting this 1L class has inflated even further...(!))


Those numbers are post 3L. The 1L curve is probably pretty similar to this:

4.00+ - top 3-5 people
3.85+ - top 10%
3.75+ - top 15%
3.65+ - top 25%
3.50+ - top 35%
3.30-3.40 - median
3.20 - 3.30 - slightly below median
3.00 - 3.20 - quite below median

I don't think the inflation growth they speak of goes to 1Ls as much. They haven't changed the curve for our doctrinal classes since then, so it can't have changed too much (indeed if you math it out and assume certain things about the correlation of top grades from one class to another, you arrive at roughly the same thing posted before).

The inflation comes from all the clinics, practicums and seminar classes that are A+ guaranteed.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby onionz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:06 pm

bjsesq wrote:
bdubs wrote:For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/


Awesome news.


Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bananasplit19 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:11 pm

onionz wrote:Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

Professor Steven G. Calabreezy-off-the-heezy-fo-sheezy (the G stands for Gangsta) co-founded FedSoc and was a Scalia clerk. Dunno how much of a role that plays, but probably doesn't hurt.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:12 pm

onionz wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
bdubs wrote:For those of you in here who know him from your time at NU:

http://deansblog.law.northwestern.edu/2 ... the-court/


Awesome news.


Is that 3 years in a row for Scalia? Do we have federalist society connections?

Professor Calabresi started it...

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Dr. Filth » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:33 pm

has anyone ever failed the judicial practicum thingy

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Micdiddy » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:45 pm

Dr. Filth wrote:has anyone ever failed the judicial practicum thingy


First time for everything.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Roll Fizzlebeef » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:30 pm

Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Georgia Avenue » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:52 pm

Dr. Filth wrote:has anyone ever gotten less than an A- in the judicial practicum thingy


ftfy

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby franklyscarlet » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:54 pm

Roll Fizzlebeef wrote:Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?


It was July last year. I'd like them to post, need to pick out my m-w only classes so I can start booking long weekend trips. 3Lol.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Roll Fizzlebeef » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:02 pm

franklyscarlet wrote:
Roll Fizzlebeef wrote:Not that it particularly matters, but any word on when the '14/'15 class schedules will be posted?


It was July last year. I'd like them to post, need to pick out my m-w only classes so I can start booking long weekend trips. 3Lol.


Gracias. That was my general concern, though I'm willing to do M-F classes- fully expecting my attendance will be...less than stellar.




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