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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:05 pm

splitmuch wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
purpletiger wrote:FYI, graduation honors have posted.

only see 2013 on the registrar's site, which is not accessible...


Look at your unofficial transcript on caesar. Also McAllister sent an email to the plain old cum laude recipients.

She sent an email to us less than honorable folks to:
"congrats, you did barely enough to graduate "

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby zugzwanger » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:15 pm

word on the street is OCS is burning the midnight oil trying to get the career data out to us before sunrise tomorrow

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby LRGhost » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:07 am

zugzwanger wrote:word on the street is OCS is burning the midnight oil trying to get the career data out to us before sunrise tomorrow


lol

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby VulcanVulcanVulcan » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:43 am

Does that mean Coif has been posted too?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:04 pm

VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Does that mean Coif has been posted too?


From a source:yes.
From another source: Again the cut off was very high

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby lhanvt13 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:06 pm

Who are some recommended professors for IP courses?
Some MUST take professors before graduating (not just IP specific)?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rinkrat19 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 am

lhanvt13 wrote:Who are some recommended professors for IP courses?
Some MUST take professors before graduating (not just IP specific)?

My must-takes: Barsa, Speta, Provenzano

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby feralinfant » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:45 am

Anybody's loans show up in their bank account yet?

Was really hoping to wake up to that today.

Edit: fuck just realized you have to request a refund through caesar. wtf.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby M458 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:30 am

LRGhost wrote:
zugzwanger wrote:word on the street is OCS is burning the midnight oil trying to get the career data out to us before sunrise tomorrow


lol


Maybe if we're lucky we'll get it after OCI.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby BearsBulls2014 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:49 am

splitmuch wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Does that mean Coif has been posted too?


From a source:yes.
From another source: Again the cut off was very high



Does anyone know what the Coif cut off was?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:59 pm

BearsBulls2014 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Does that mean Coif has been posted too?


From a source:yes.
From another source: Again the cut off was very high



Does anyone know what the Coif cut off was?


Above 3.96

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:01 pm

splitmuch wrote:
BearsBulls2014 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:Does that mean Coif has been posted too?


From a source:yes.
From another source: Again the cut off was very high



Does anyone know what the Coif cut off was?


Above 3.96


daaaaaaaaaaayum

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Georgia Avenue » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:25 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Speta


single most overrated professor at the school

holy shit at coif being >3.96, that is ridiculous

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:30 pm

New TLS Northwestern Student and Alumni ruling:

We are not going to talk about our grade distribution after 1L. Don't want to let the cat out of the bag.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:37 pm

splitmuch wrote:
BearsBulls2014 wrote:Does anyone know what the Coif cut off was?


Above 3.96

That's pretty goddamn ridiculous.

You might have a grade inflation problem when your honors cutoff meant to cover 3% of the class balloons to about 10% of the class two graduating classes in a row.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Georgia Avenue » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:41 pm

it's going to be fun when kids with a 3.95 have to explain in an interview why they didn't get coif

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:42 pm

Georgia Avenue wrote:it's going to be fun when kids with a 3.95 have to explain in an interview why they didn't get coif


I don't think anyone will ask. Not all schools do it, and it's hard to keep track of which do and don't.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:05 pm

I assume this is why last year's list is no longer accessible and they b haven't published a list this year. For as much as the admin can suck, quietly engineering substantial grade inflation wqs probably pretty helpful for a number of students.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby VulcanVulcanVulcan » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:09 pm

I think it's helpful to a certain extent--taking a 3.3 student and making that person a 3.5 student. But does it really help a 3.8 student look like a 4.0 student? In a world without Coif maybe, but the grade-selective stuff the 3.8 student is applying for are savvy enough to catch on. This includes very selective firms and clerkships. I don't think a 7th Cir. judge seeking 25 apps from 3.9 NU students is really going to be that impressed.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Georgia Avenue » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:11 pm

VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:I think it's helpful to a certain extent--taking a 3.3 student and making that person a 3.5 student. But does it really help a 3.8 student look like a 4.0 student? In a world without Coif maybe, but the grade-selective stuff the 3.8 student is applying for are savvy enough to catch on. This includes very selective firms and clerkships. I don't think a 7th Cir. judge seeking 25 apps from 3.9 NU students is really going to be that impressed.


maybe not, but a random judge or some firm outside the midwest that doesn't see many NU kids sure might be

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby VulcanVulcanVulcan » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:14 pm

Georgia Avenue wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:I think it's helpful to a certain extent--taking a 3.3 student and making that person a 3.5 student. But does it really help a 3.8 student look like a 4.0 student? In a world without Coif maybe, but the grade-selective stuff the 3.8 student is applying for are savvy enough to catch on. This includes very selective firms and clerkships. I don't think a 7th Cir. judge seeking 25 apps from 3.9 NU students is really going to be that impressed.


maybe not, but a random judge or some firm outside the midwest that doesn't see many NU kids sure might be


True. But most students would rather be competitive for 7th Cir. than say, 11th Cir. I'm just not sure the trade-off is worth it. Flaum has said he knows about the grade inflation, meaning only 4.0+ students have a shot. That's ridiculous.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby CreativityKing » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:17 pm

Flips88 wrote:
splitmuch wrote:
BearsBulls2014 wrote:Does anyone know what the Coif cut off was?


Above 3.96

That's pretty goddamn ridiculous.

You might have a grade inflation problem when your honors cutoff meant to cover 3% of the class balloons to about 10% of the class two graduating classes in a row.



Summa: the new magna.

Multiple summas this year?

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Micdiddy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:18 pm

VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:
Georgia Avenue wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:I think it's helpful to a certain extent--taking a 3.3 student and making that person a 3.5 student. But does it really help a 3.8 student look like a 4.0 student? In a world without Coif maybe, but the grade-selective stuff the 3.8 student is applying for are savvy enough to catch on. This includes very selective firms and clerkships. I don't think a 7th Cir. judge seeking 25 apps from 3.9 NU students is really going to be that impressed.


maybe not, but a random judge or some firm outside the midwest that doesn't see many NU kids sure might be


True. But most students would rather be competitive for 7th Cir. than say, 11th Cir. I'm just not sure the trade-off is worth it. Flaum has said he knows about the grade inflation, meaning only 4.0+ students have a shot. That's ridiculous.


Weren't those be the same students who have a shot without grade inflation anyway? Unless the Judges or firms who know about the grade inflation actually hold it against us (which they might, I have no idea, though it's not the student's fault) then I don't see how it could hurt.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:19 pm

Also the point of grade inflation is not too help people in the top 20 percent of the curve, anyway.

It's also not ridiculous that only 4.0 students have a shot at flaum. Those people would be the only ones who have a shot at him if they were above 3.9 pre inflation.

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Re: Northwestern 1L/2L/3L/Grads Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:21 pm

VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:
Georgia Avenue wrote:
VulcanVulcanVulcan wrote:I think it's helpful to a certain extent--taking a 3.3 student and making that person a 3.5 student. But does it really help a 3.8 student look like a 4.0 student? In a world without Coif maybe, but the grade-selective stuff the 3.8 student is applying for are savvy enough to catch on. This includes very selective firms and clerkships. I don't think a 7th Cir. judge seeking 25 apps from 3.9 NU students is really going to be that impressed.


maybe not, but a random judge or some firm outside the midwest that doesn't see many NU kids sure might be


True. But most students would rather be competitive for 7th Cir. than say, 11th Cir. I'm just not sure the trade-off is worth it. Flaum has said he knows about the grade inflation, meaning only 4.0+ students have a shot. That's ridiculous.


But it's not really hurting the people at the 7th cir. because if 3.9 was top 5%, they wouldn't have a 3.9, they'd have a 3.8.




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