I got boned too, FWIW. I was told it was guaranteed A/he had been yelled at before for giving too many A's and I got a fucking B+. I feel your pain breh.CaptJackSparrow wrote:I'm not a 1L, so thankfully this won't mess up OCI for me. But I don't like getting a shit grade I didn't deserve. I emailed him about it and he told me that if it had been a curved class he would have given me a C (which doesn't even make any sense since Cs aren't part of the curve).Desert Fox wrote:Ouch, that is terrible. Hope you aren't a 1L?CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
Never trust "He's an easy grader." ESPECIALLY from gunners. It's mostly a way to humble brag about getting an A.
And I heard he's an easy grader from a lot of people who definitely were not gunners and said this was the best grade they've gotten/their first A+ ... And this is by far the worst grade I've gotten in law school, including in curved classes.
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yeah he gave me a B+, i'm so pissed.CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
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Isn't it a general rule that younger faculty/adjuncts are more likely to be A-friendly than older faculty?simplycatalina wrote:yeah he gave me a B+, i'm so pissed.CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
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That's really shitty that the prof would say something like that though I'm assuming you still studied for the exam? Throughout the semester I think I heard at least 2-3 people tell me that the class was awesome and that everybody does well I was actually pissed that I didn't take it as one of my electivesCaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
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That would make sense, but I heard the "D'Amato is an easy grader" thing the whole time I was at NU. Maybe it got back to him and he decided he didn't want that reputation anymore?parkslope wrote:Isn't it a general rule that younger faculty/adjuncts are more likely to be A-friendly than older faculty?simplycatalina wrote:yeah he gave me a B+, i'm so pissed.CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
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CaptJackSparrow wrote:I'm not a 1L, so thankfully this won't mess up OCI for me. But I don't like getting a shit grade I didn't deserve. I emailed him about it and he told me that if it had been a curved class he would have given me a C (which doesn't even make any sense since Cs aren't part of the curve).Desert Fox wrote:Ouch, that is terrible. Hope you aren't a 1L?CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
Never trust "He's an easy grader." ESPECIALLY from gunners. It's mostly a way to humble brag about getting an A.
And I heard he's an easy grader from a lot of people who definitely were not gunners and said this was the best grade they've gotten/their first A+ ... And this is by far the worst grade I've gotten in law school, including in curved classes.
Same exact thing for me. How can you get a B in an uncurved class when the final was 4 questions at a max of 400 words? You didn't even have space to make more than the most basic of arguments.
Don't give him that much credit. He is so out of it. He said he would retire when he couldn't teach anymore. Someone should tell him that was 5 years ago.Holly Golightly wrote:at would make sense, but I heard the "D'Amato is an easy grader" thing the whole time I was at NU. Maybe it got back to him and he decided he didn't want that reputation anymore?
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Tried contacting D'Amato about the grade and he's apparently on leave and can't discuss it until Spring. Excellent.
He also said, "I thought you should've done better." What is this bullshit.
He also said, "I thought you should've done better." What is this bullshit.
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I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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Is getting less than an A in ITP a common thing, or did our faculty adviser just take it way too seriously?
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No but he just gave random grades based on a 1600 word exam and I doubt he read a single test.Pokemon wrote:I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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But you don't really think that...simplycatalina wrote:No but he just gave random grades based on a 1600 word exam and I doubt he read a single test.Pokemon wrote:I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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I mean, it is also not fair that O'Hara grades super-easy whereas Horwich grades hard, but it is part of law school. Grades in law school are not hard science.simplycatalina wrote:No but he just gave random grades based on a 1600 word exam and I doubt he read a single test.Pokemon wrote:I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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I completely agree. If you're not going to provide any information about what you expect (other than "you don't need to study for this test. Everyone is going to do fine") and you only provide enough space to make basic arguments, you can't then turn around and tell us we didn't meet the expectations you never gave us.dolfan0516 wrote:CaptJackSparrow wrote:I'm not a 1L, so thankfully this won't mess up OCI for me. But I don't like getting a shit grade I didn't deserve. I emailed him about it and he told me that if it had been a curved class he would have given me a C (which doesn't even make any sense since Cs aren't part of the curve).Desert Fox wrote:Ouch, that is terrible. Hope you aren't a 1L?CaptJackSparrow wrote:Did anybody else get screwed by Jurisprudence with D'Amato? He gave me a B ... I thought he was supposed to be a really easy grader and this was an uncurved class. He told us not to even study for the final.
Never trust "He's an easy grader." ESPECIALLY from gunners. It's mostly a way to humble brag about getting an A.
And I heard he's an easy grader from a lot of people who definitely were not gunners and said this was the best grade they've gotten/their first A+ ... And this is by far the worst grade I've gotten in law school, including in curved classes.
Same exact thing for me. How can you get a B in an uncurved class when the final was 4 questions at a max of 400 words? You didn't even have space to make more than the most basic of arguments.
Same here, he told me he expected me to do better and that he bumped my grade up from a C, based on my exam grade, to a B because of my participation. I really don't understand how I could have gone so far afield in 1600 words on this "studyless test."simplycatalina wrote:Tried contacting D'Amato about the grade and he's apparently on leave and can't discuss it until Spring. Excellent.
He also said, "I thought you should've done better." What is this bullshit.
To move on from just expressing dissatisfaction though, is there anything we can do? Does anybody know if there is an appeals process given that a significant portion of the class feels we were unfairly graded?
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LOL at the first google result for him: http://anthonydamato.law.northwestern.edu/
Also, he defended a Serbian government official charged with genocide. Nice.
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Isn't complaining about grades, especially bad grades in an uncurved class, part of law school as well?Pokemon wrote:I mean, it is also not fair that O'Hara grades super-easy whereas Horwich grades hard, but it is part of law school. Grades in law school are not hard science.simplycatalina wrote:No but he just gave random grades based on a 1600 word exam and I doubt he read a single test.Pokemon wrote:I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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Most definitely not a thing.rinkrat19 wrote:Is getting less than an A in ITP a common thing, or did our faculty adviser just take it way too seriously?
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Pretty sure grades can only be changed for clerical error, i.e., a professor mis-entered your grade. I've never heard of that actually happening though.CaptJackSparrow wrote:
Same here, he told me he expected me to do better and that he bumped my grade up from a C, based on my exam grade, to a B because of my participation. I really don't understand how I could have gone so far afield in 1600 words on this "studyless test."
To move on from just expressing dissatisfaction though, is there anything we can do? Does anybody know if there is an appeals process given that a significant portion of the class feels we were unfairly graded?
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now THIS is poor form.parkslope wrote:Most definitely not a thing.rinkrat19 wrote:Is getting less than an A in ITP a common thing, or did our faculty adviser just take it way too seriously?
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right, but nobody holds a gun to your head and forces you to take Horwich - you know what you're getting yourself into with him. it's way different when a guy who has a reputation for handing out A's like candy suddenly decides to start giving out B's and C's in an uncurved class. nothing much you can do to protect yourself from that.Pokemon wrote:I mean, it is also not fair that O'Hara grades super-easy whereas Horwich grades hard, but it is part of law school. Grades in law school are not hard science.simplycatalina wrote:No but he just gave random grades based on a 1600 word exam and I doubt he read a single test.Pokemon wrote:I understand people are frustrated, I would be too, but it is not like D'Amato gave discretionary bad grades.
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parkslope wrote:Pretty sure grades can only be changed for clerical error, i.e., a professor mis-entered your grade. I've never heard of that actually happening though.CaptJackSparrow wrote:
Same here, he told me he expected me to do better and that he bumped my grade up from a C, based on my exam grade, to a B because of my participation. I really don't understand how I could have gone so far afield in 1600 words on this "studyless test."
To move on from just expressing dissatisfaction though, is there anything we can do? Does anybody know if there is an appeals process given that a significant portion of the class feels we were unfairly graded?
Is there anything we can do about the fact that he won't even look over our exams/talk about why he decided to give us that grade?
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God dammit, Lutz.Georgia Avenue wrote:now THIS is poor form.parkslope wrote:Most definitely not a thing.rinkrat19 wrote:Is getting less than an A in ITP a common thing, or did our faculty adviser just take it way too seriously?
It was just an A- but it still felt undeserved. And that was only after he told our group (and one other group) that our papers were worth a B+ at best and let us do another edit and resubmit after the deadline. wtf. ITP is 4 credits so it hurts. AND he'd loved our presentations and everything else so it came totally out of the blue.
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But with Lutz, you can't really be surprised can you? He's a tool.rinkrat19 wrote:God dammit, Lutz.Georgia Avenue wrote:now THIS is poor form.parkslope wrote:Most definitely not a thing.rinkrat19 wrote:Is getting less than an A in ITP a common thing, or did our faculty adviser just take it way too seriously?
It was just an A- but it still felt undeserved. And that was only after he told our group (and one other group) that our papers were worth a B+ at best and let us do another edit and resubmit after the deadline. wtf. ITP is 4 credits so it hurts. AND he'd loved our presentations and everything else so it came totally out of the blue.
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Also got an A-, Rink, and not from Lutz.
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ITT: Butthurt.
Everyone misjudges one class or two as "easy" then gets pwned. Learn your lesson and get over it.
Everyone misjudges one class or two as "easy" then gets pwned. Learn your lesson and get over it.
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When did everyone get so serious about the time-honored activity of complaining about grades?rayiner wrote:ITT: Butthurt.
Everyone misjudges one class or two as "easy" then gets pwned. Learn your lesson and get over it.
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