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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:20 am

Flips88 wrote:Ok, so any opinions on the class experience/grade friendliness of the following profs for classes:
Hiliker for Ethics
Provezano for Employment Discrim
Tax with Cameron
Copyright with DiCola

TYIA


Provenzano is the best teacher I've ever had. Seriously. Amazing. I didn't plan on loving employment discrimination, and now it's my summer job. She's actually trained in teaching methods, and she's very engaging and energetic in class. People did very well in her class as far as I know, but she does expect you to keep up- very keen on in-depth participation, but not to the point of being mean.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Thoughts on choosing a concentration? Is it worth it to confine courses/jump through the hoops? Will following the Civil Lit concentration actually help me professionally? Or just more pain than it's worth?

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby alabamabound » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:14 pm

homestyle28 wrote:Thoughts on choosing a concentration? Is it worth it to confine courses/jump through the hoops? Will following the Civil Lit concentration actually help me professionally? Or just more pain than it's worth?


If you're a 2L interested in Big Law, getting a summer firm job during OCI will help you professionally.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:40 pm

alabamabound wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:Thoughts on choosing a concentration? Is it worth it to confine courses/jump through the hoops? Will following the Civil Lit concentration actually help me professionally? Or just more pain than it's worth?


If you're a 2L interested in Big Law, getting a summer firm job during OCI will help you professionally.


Thank you for addressing my concerns directly and succinctly. What is this OCI you speak of?

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby alabamabound » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:50 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:Thoughts on choosing a concentration? Is it worth it to confine courses/jump through the hoops? Will following the Civil Lit concentration actually help me professionally? Or just more pain than it's worth?


If you're a 2L interested in Big Law, getting a summer firm job during OCI will help you professionally.


Thank you for addressing my concerns directly and succinctly. What is this OCI you speak of?


It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:56 pm

alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bjsesq » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:03 pm

Flips88 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600


Not so bad if you get drunk before/during.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Holly Golightly » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:04 pm

bjsesq wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600


Not so bad if you get drunk before/during.

True story.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:07 pm

Holly Golightly wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600


Not so bad if you get drunk before/during.

True story.


This is your answer to EVERYTHING (I approve)

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby alabamabound » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:16 pm

Flips88 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600


You just thought of one. Nice work.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Icculus » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:08 am

alabamabound wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
alabamabound wrote:It's also a pain. But worth it in retrospect. I don't know if other T14's have that concentration thing, but I can't think of a more useless NU-related endeavor offhand.

What is Lawyer as Problem Solver, Alex? Thanks, I'll take Other Useless Shit NU Makes Me Do for $600


You just thought of one. Nice work.


What is Portal?

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Eugenie Danglars » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:28 am

fyi:

bgdddymtty wrote:
Eugenie Danglars wrote:Hello UVAers...one of our new faculty (at NU), a Joshua Fischman is coming from your school. Any thoughts or experiences with him? I'm considering taking admin with him in the fall. Thanks!

I haven't had Fischman for a traditional law class, but I took Quantitative Methods from him last semester. He was an engaging, interactive lecturer and displayed a solid mastery of the material. I'd take another class with him.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby kennethellenparcell » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:17 am

How well do you guys feel supported by Career Services? Have they been very invested in helping you to get jobs?

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:14 am

kennethellenparcell wrote:How well do you guys feel supported by Career Services? Have they been very invested in helping you to get jobs?

Well there's currently some turnover in the office. The head guy, Bill Chamberlain, left about a month ago to go head up career services at Depaul. And then one of the other advisors, Puja, has been on maternity leave. I've had the only advisor who has been consistently available (Dave Diamond) and I've found him super helpful and approachable. He's been there a while and gets nothing but rave reviews from attorneys who went to NU and had him.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby splitmuch » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:58 am

Flips88 wrote:
kennethellenparcell wrote:How well do you guys feel supported by Career Services? Have they been very invested in helping you to get jobs?

Well there's currently some turnover in the office. The head guy, Bill Chamberlain, left about a month ago to go head up career services at Depaul. And then one of the other advisors, Puja, has been on maternity leave. I've had the only advisor who has been consistently available (Dave Diamond) and I've found him super helpful and approachable. He's been there a while and gets nothing but rave reviews from attorneys who went to NU and had him.



I second the sentiments on Dave.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:15 am

splitmuch wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
kennethellenparcell wrote:How well do you guys feel supported by Career Services? Have they been very invested in helping you to get jobs?

Well there's currently some turnover in the office. The head guy, Bill Chamberlain, left about a month ago to go head up career services at Depaul. And then one of the other advisors, Puja, has been on maternity leave. I've had the only advisor who has been consistently available (Dave Diamond) and I've found him super helpful and approachable. He's been there a while and gets nothing but rave reviews from attorneys who went to NU and had him.



I second the sentiments on Dave.


I've been impressed how quickly he's turned around feedback on bidlists and resumes that I've sent him.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby UncleFilz » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:32 am

Anyone have Haddock? I've heard mixed messages - some say he's an easy grader, some say he's a hard grader

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby doing_it_in_a_car » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:14 pm

Hi there,

NU is one of my top choices, but I have a few questions I hope you can help shed light on.

1. With respect to Biglaw recruiting, are students with paralegal experience disadvantaged at all compared to those with ibanking/consulting experience?

2. I will have 2 years WE in NYC when I enter law school and would like to return to NYC after. Is NU's relatively minor placement in NYC mostly the result of self-selection? Is there any major disadvantage to NU if I'm set on NYC biglaw?

3. Would you recommend paying sticker for NU?

Thanks for any insights you can provide!

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rayiner » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:21 pm

UncleFilz wrote:Anyone have Haddock? I've heard mixed messages - some say he's an easy grader, some say he's a hard grader


Moderate-hard grader.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rayiner » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:35 pm

doing_it_in_a_car wrote:Hi there,

NU is one of my top choices, but I have a few questions I hope you can help shed light on.

1. With respect to Biglaw recruiting, are students with paralegal experience disadvantaged at all compared to those with ibanking/consulting experience?

2. I will have 2 years WE in NYC when I enter law school and would like to return to NYC after. Is NU's relatively minor placement in NYC mostly the result of self-selection? Is there any major disadvantage to NU if I'm set on NYC biglaw?

3. Would you recommend paying sticker for NU?

Thanks for any insights you can provide!


If you want to do corporate, then i-banking/consulting experience is a huge plus.

I wouldn't say NU's placement into NYC is minor. Last year, NU students took the bar exam 16% NY/39% IL. U Chicago was around 12% NY/38% IL. This just reflects the fact that Chicago is a big local market and people want to stay there. The only schools that place substantially more into NYC are the ones where NYC is their target market: Cornell, Penn, and of course Columbia and NYU.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bdubs » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:59 pm

rayiner wrote:
UncleFilz wrote:Anyone have Haddock? I've heard mixed messages - some say he's an easy grader, some say he's a hard grader


Moderate-hard grader.


Incredibly terrible lecturer, very opaque grading system, bizarre testing methods, and did not follow his own syllabus. Also hard grader. Highly recommend that you not take his class.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Samara » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:35 pm

Apparently, there is something at NU called the Summer Law Preparatory Program. It runs the week before orientation and appears to be distinct from those Law Preview things. Does anyone know anything about this program? On a scale of 1 to an asshole on my elbow, how useful is this?

It's free thanks to SNR Denton (what happened to them, btw?), but I would have to quit work a week earlier than planned. I'm leaning towards not attending, as the money seems more useful, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on something actually worthwhile.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby bjsesq » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:38 pm

Samara wrote:Apparently, there is something at NU called the Summer Law Preparatory Program. It runs the week before orientation and appears to be distinct from those Law Preview things. Does anyone know anything about this program? On a scale of 1 to an asshole on my elbow, how useful is this?

It's free thanks to SNR Denton (what happened to them, btw?), but I would have to quit work a week earlier than planned. I'm leaning towards not attending, as the money seems more useful, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on something actually worthwhile.


More law school before law school is what you want?

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Icculus » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:39 pm

Samara wrote:Apparently, there is something at NU called the Summer Law Preparatory Program. It runs the week before orientation and appears to be distinct from those Law Preview things. Does anyone know anything about this program? On a scale of 1 to an asshole on my elbow, how useful is this?

It's free thanks to SNR Denton (what happened to them, btw?), but I would have to quit work a week earlier than planned. I'm leaning towards not attending, as the money seems more useful, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on something actually worthwhile.


I didn't attend, and I just looked at the website, seems like working would be a far better use of your time. This is especially true because once you get here NU will make you sit through various things to introduce you to law school (Portal, Apex, etc...) I think you're fine skipping it.

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Re: Northwestern 3Ls Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Samara » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:43 pm

bjsesq wrote:
Samara wrote:Apparently, there is something at NU called the Summer Law Preparatory Program. It runs the week before orientation and appears to be distinct from those Law Preview things. Does anyone know anything about this program? On a scale of 1 to an asshole on my elbow, how useful is this?

It's free thanks to SNR Denton (what happened to them, btw?), but I would have to quit work a week earlier than planned. I'm leaning towards not attending, as the money seems more useful, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing out on something actually worthwhile.


More law school before law school is what you want?

I know, right? Cut me some slack, I'm new to this whole gunning thing. :wink:




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