Flips88 wrote:rayiner wrote:Sauer Grapes wrote:OK... I'm on board the not tonight boat. Maybe tomorrow.
It's definitely late. Spring 2010 and Spring 2011 were both exactly 28 days after the last exam day.
And we're at 33 now right?
32.
Flips88 wrote:rayiner wrote:Sauer Grapes wrote:OK... I'm on board the not tonight boat. Maybe tomorrow.
It's definitely late. Spring 2010 and Spring 2011 were both exactly 28 days after the last exam day.
And we're at 33 now right?
dru617 wrote:Not that it really matters at this point, but doesn't Kagen always send an email after grades are due from profs stating that grades will be posted by X date unless there are problems, in which case another email will be sent?
We didn't get such an email from her (or anyone else) this semester...
bdubs wrote:dru617 wrote:Not that it really matters at this point, but doesn't Kagen always send an email after grades are due from profs stating that grades will be posted by X date unless there are problems, in which case another email will be sent?
We didn't get such an email from her (or anyone else) this semester...
Kagan has been on maternity leave for a while.
boblasidy wrote:1. A single person not being in the office or leaving should not stop a major institution from releasing grades entered via scantron sheets (at least not since about 1976)
2. Has anyone called? Im starting to get the feeling that this grade withholding is meant to make it more difficult for borderline transfer students waiting to see their spring grades.
boblasidy wrote:1. A single person not being in the office or leaving should not stop a major institution from releasing grades entered via scantron sheets (at least not since about 1976)
2. Has anyone called? Im starting to get the feeling that this grade withholding is meant to make it more difficult for borderline transfer students waiting to see their spring grades.
Remnantofisrael wrote:Say what you want, but so far the only thing our new dean has represented is less communication and more incompetence and shady dealings. Not saying its his fault, or that this is even true, but it should be the onus of his office to make sure these things either don't happen or are properly communicated.
Honest to god, if someone had to choose between a number of schools to which I know people currently attending, I would not recommend ours. Not right now at least.
boblasidy wrote:1. A single person not being in the office or leaving should not stop a major institution from releasing grades entered via scantron sheets (at least not since about 1976)
2. Has anyone called? Im starting to get the feeling that this grade withholding is meant to make it more difficult for borderline transfer students waiting to see their spring grades.
rayiner wrote:Remnantofisrael wrote:Say what you want, but so far the only thing our new dean has represented is less communication and more incompetence and shady dealings. Not saying its his fault, or that this is even true, but it should be the onus of his office to make sure these things either don't happen or are properly communicated.
Honest to god, if someone had to choose between a number of schools to which I know people currently attending, I would not recommend ours. Not right now at least.
Don't be such a whiny little bitch. Grades are five days later than usual, past a deadline that nobody in the administration committed to. BFD. Would you rather go to Michigan where the CSO retardedly averaged pre-ITE callback data with post-ITE data? Or maybe Virginia where you might get one grade then another days later. Or the several T14's that use ExamSoft.
Nobody likes to be kept waiting for grades, but of all the things to base your evaluation of the administration on...
Remnantofisrael wrote:rayiner wrote:Remnantofisrael wrote:Say what you want, but so far the only thing our new dean has represented is less communication and more incompetence and shady dealings. Not saying its his fault, or that this is even true, but it should be the onus of his office to make sure these things either don't happen or are properly communicated.
Honest to god, if someone had to choose between a number of schools to which I know people currently attending, I would not recommend ours. Not right now at least.
Don't be such a whiny little bitch. Grades are five days later than usual, past a deadline that nobody in the administration committed to. BFD. Would you rather go to Michigan where the CSO retardedly averaged pre-ITE callback data with post-ITE data? Or maybe Virginia where you might get one grade then another days later. Or the several T14's that use ExamSoft.
Nobody likes to be kept waiting for grades, but of all the things to base your evaluation of the administration on...
I couldn't care less about this singular issue. I know our school is usually good about grades and even with this extra wait compared to the past, its better than most. I'm not bitching about this, I'm bitching about everything. Seriously, I'm not the only one who has had a less than miserable experience here this past year. I know people at Berkley, a bunch at Michigan, UVA, Penn, and NYU. Everyone complains about certain things at their schools. But I have a lot more than one or two things that are problematic. If you read my previous posts, I line them out, and those don't even include the plethora of issues others talk about regularly.
And I've asked if its just me and it seems that others would agree. I don't know if this is because of the mess at the dean-level that is expected when there is turnover, or what. But its pretty evident, and I hope next year things run smoother with better decision making and planning in general. ALSO, I'm willing to accept that this is just par-for-the-course at law school, but no one is claiming that yet.
In the end, if our school touts itself as more professional, it should act that way. Rankings, which don't take into account student experience, are messing up my chi.
homestyle28 wrote:In unrelated talk...does anyone have tips/solid strategy for putting together our bid lists? I'd imagine it makes sense to avoid the "we want the top 15%" kids if you're at median, but beyond that I don't know what to make of what the firm criteria in symplicity amounts to, or what GPA ranges for callbacks should indicate when it comes to competently bidding.
rayiner wrote:homestyle28 wrote:In unrelated talk...does anyone have tips/solid strategy for putting together our bid lists? I'd imagine it makes sense to avoid the "we want the top 15%" kids if you're at median, but beyond that I don't know what to make of what the firm criteria in symplicity amounts to, or what GPA ranges for callbacks should indicate when it comes to competently bidding.
As a general rule, ignore the criteria on the firm posting. Also, the GPA ranges for callbacks skewed high during the recession. E.g. pre-ITE K&E Chicago had a 3.68 GPA median, which means half the people they gave callbacks to were in the top 20% or so. It also means that half were outside the top 20%. During the recession, K&E Chicago's median went up to like 3.9 or 3.85. That does not mean that you had to be top 10% to get hired there, just that the firm called back mostly people in the top 10%. A 3.75+ gave you a decent shot.
Feel free to e-mail me at rayiner@nlaw.northwestern.edu, and I'd be happy to give some individualized advice. I'm a house-husband for the next couple of months so it's not like I have anything else to do.
rayiner wrote:Remnantofisrael wrote:rayiner wrote:Remnantofisrael wrote:Say what you want, but so far the only thing our new dean has represented is less communication and more incompetence and shady dealings. Not saying its his fault, or that this is even true, but it should be the onus of his office to make sure these things either don't happen or are properly communicated.
Honest to god, if someone had to choose between a number of schools to which I know people currently attending, I would not recommend ours. Not right now at least.
Don't be such a whiny little bitch. Grades are five days later than usual, past a deadline that nobody in the administration committed to. BFD. Would you rather go to Michigan where the CSO retardedly averaged pre-ITE callback data with post-ITE data? Or maybe Virginia where you might get one grade then another days later. Or the several T14's that use ExamSoft.
Nobody likes to be kept waiting for grades, but of all the things to base your evaluation of the administration on...
I couldn't care less about this singular issue. I know our school is usually good about grades and even with this extra wait compared to the past, its better than most. I'm not bitching about this, I'm bitching about everything. Seriously, I'm not the only one who has had a less than miserable experience here this past year. I know people at Berkley, a bunch at Michigan, UVA, Penn, and NYU. Everyone complains about certain things at their schools. But I have a lot more than one or two things that are problematic. If you read my previous posts, I line them out, and those don't even include the plethora of issues others talk about regularly.
And I've asked if its just me and it seems that others would agree. I don't know if this is because of the mess at the dean-level that is expected when there is turnover, or what. But its pretty evident, and I hope next year things run smoother with better decision making and planning in general. ALSO, I'm willing to accept that this is just par-for-the-course at law school, but no one is claiming that yet.
In the end, if our school touts itself as more professional, it should act that way. Rankings, which don't take into account student experience, are messing up my chi.
A summary of your posts since starting school:
1) Schedules/section assignments aren't out when orientation started.
2) CAESAR/the orientation page is down the weekend before orientation.
3) Grades aren't out five days (three business days) after when they're historically out.
Frankly you sound like a whiner.
Now, don't get me wrong, there are a long list of legitimate grievances against the administration. E.g. SBA appropriating a ton of excess cash from student organizations to fund building improvements. But the stuff you're harping about is petty.
Desert Fox wrote:People who transer out are friendless losers.
Blumpbeef wrote:What about the cold? Is that a legitimate reason to transfer?
chadwick218 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:People who transer out are friendless losers.
I concur. Unless you are transferring to HYS or for legitimate personal reasons, I think that you will yourself a great injustice come OCI transfering out of NU to a school ranked only a couple of spots higher. Looking back, not transfering was probably the best decision that I made.
chadwick218 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:People who transer out are friendless losers.
I concur. Unless you are transferring to HYS or for legitimate personal reasons, I think that you will yourself a great injustice come OCI transfering out of NU to a school ranked only a couple of spots higher. Looking back, not transfering was probably the best decision that I made.
Blumpbeef wrote:What about the cold? Is that a legitimate reason to transfer?
chadwick218 wrote:Blumpbeef wrote:What about the cold? Is that a legitimate reason to transfer?
So you are left looking at Stanford, Berkeley, UVA, and Duke?
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