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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Remnantofisrael » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:02 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:
Remnantofisrael wrote:Not to complain too much, but I feel like the admin at this school is generally of lower quality then what I was expecting. Perhaps that is my fault for having expectations of anything resembling competence given the sticker price, but screw me right? I don't really care that grades aren't out, even though they take longer than they should given the almost 6 full days since grades were ready for input. But combine that with the handful of tech issues, the multiple test mistakes throughout the year including entirely wrong final exams only noticed after the first hour was done, the multiple horror-stories about how next to impossible it is to deal with insurance issues, or the fact that I can be sure whenever there will be a big paper due, or finals coming up, we will have needless training sessions in the only room in the school with no internet, and well...

I guess I do mean to complain. I'm sure if my grades are good I'll only spout positives. AND I'm sure that most, if not all, peer schools suffer from this same set of problems. It's just no one will ever complain (or enough people wont) because no one wants to be THAT GUY. I have no doubt these admin's work hard, but its just surprising to me.

Has it just been a bad year? Am I just having a particularly bad and thus shaded experience? I LOVE the classes, the work, the professors, etc.

You are not imagining things. The school is run worse than a government agency (and far worse than the Illinois DMV surprisingly). Many others have noticed it.

Still, not a bad place to get an education.


Yeah, like I said, great professors and stuff. I honestly wanted to get a letter written, grievances and suggested solutions basically, and make it constructive, get 100+ signatures, and submit it to the new dean. I know SBA is there for this, but given that I'm all the way through 1L and still don't know what they do, I don't know if thats the way to go.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:04 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:
general +1 to this...I liked him and his approach fine, but the poor communication/administration seriously hurts my take on the class. (Also, how did no one die on the final exam?)

You mean you didn't think having 40% of the exam on 2.5 days of class wasn't reflective of the class focus?


My favorite was how the review power point said to know homicide grading cold and it didn't come up.


You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Sauer Grapes » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:11 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:
Flips88 wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:
general +1 to this...I liked him and his approach fine, but the poor communication/administration seriously hurts my take on the class. (Also, how did no one die on the final exam?)

You mean you didn't think having 40% of the exam on 2.5 days of class wasn't reflective of the class focus?


My favorite was how the review power point said to know homicide grading cold and it didn't come up.


You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

Heck, I was tempted to say that.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Remnantofisrael » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:13 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
Remnantofisrael wrote:At least we learned more than 1/3rd of the syllabus.


I heart prof. glazer


As a person, I agree. Glazer is a great human being who cares about students. But I'd rather have a complete a&&hat nasty human being teaching me so long as they actual teach the material.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:18 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

Heck, I was tempted to say that.


In my defense, I'd be hard pressed to feel worse about that exam

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby attractive_NUisance » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:20 pm

:idea: Everyone email Jason Moy at the count of three...

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:21 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

Heck, I was tempted to say that.


In my defense, I'd be hard pressed to feel worse about that exam

You obviously missed getting Scooter Libby for felony murder via the responsible corporate officer doctrine.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:22 pm

Speaking of exams, in my three years at NU this is the latest that I remember grades coming out! Moy is terrible!

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Remnantofisrael » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:24 pm

Flips88 wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

Heck, I was tempted to say that.


In my defense, I'd be hard pressed to feel worse about that exam

You obviously missed getting Scooter Libby for felony murder via the responsible corporate officer doctrine.


Thats funny for reasons.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Sauer Grapes » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:25 pm

chadwick218 wrote:Speaking of exams, in my three years at NU this is the latest that I remember grades coming out! Moy is terrible!

Yo Chadwick! I actually like Moy. He has been one of the few bright-ish spots about the admin, IMO. I'm guessing he is under the instruction of someone higher than him that is actually responsible for the delay.

Or we could just pick the easy target and blame Cliff.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:25 pm

Flips88 wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
You are daring fate to have someone say, "yes it was." Don't discuss exams bro.

Heck, I was tempted to say that.


In my defense, I'd be hard pressed to feel worse about that exam

You obviously missed getting Scooter Libby for felony murder via the responsible corporate officer doctrine.


that sentence is mostly gibberish isn't? You can't fool me...

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby homestyle28 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:26 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:Speaking of exams, in my three years at NU this is the latest that I remember grades coming out! Moy is terrible!

Yo Chadwick! I actually like Moy. He has been one of the few bright-ish spots about the admin, IMO. I'm guessing he is under the instruction of someone higher than him that is actually responsible for the delay.

Or we could just pick the easy target and blame Cliff.


What are the odds that Cliff's office number is still being forwarded to his cell...someone should call.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:27 pm

homestyle28 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:Speaking of exams, in my three years at NU this is the latest that I remember grades coming out! Moy is terrible!

Yo Chadwick! I actually like Moy. He has been one of the few bright-ish spots about the admin, IMO. I'm guessing he is under the instruction of someone higher than him that is actually responsible for the delay.

Or we could just pick the easy target and blame Cliff.


What are the odds that Cliff's office number is still being forwarded to his cell...someone should call.

Tell him your fee fees will be hurt if you don't get your grades soon.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:30 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:Speaking of exams, in my three years at NU this is the latest that I remember grades coming out! Moy is terrible!

Yo Chadwick! I actually like Moy. He has been one of the few bright-ish spots about the admin, IMO. I'm guessing he is under the instruction of someone higher than him that is actually responsible for the delay.

Or we could just pick the easy target and blame Cliff.


You are right. I'll admit, Moy has been pretty responsive every time that I've needed help. Sadly, he remains the administration's puppet at the end of the day.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rayiner » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:33 pm

Desert Fox wrote:All schools suck at getting back grades. Our s is the least bad. They all come out all almost at the same time. Much better than slowly over a month.

Clearly checking grades isn't super easy, and the time it takes varies each year. Better off not giving us a heads up so we don't sit and worry.

Not knowing is better.


Northwestern usually gets them in within a week of their being due, and posts them over a half ours hour. That's amazing. At UVA, they trickle in over the space of weeks.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:34 pm

rayiner wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:All schools suck at getting back grades. Our s is the least bad. They all come out all almost at the same time. Much better than slowly over a month.

Clearly checking grades isn't super easy, and the time it takes varies each year. Better off not giving us a heads up so we don't sit and worry.

Not knowing is better.


Northwestern usually gets them in within a week of their being due, and posts them over a half ours hour. That's amazing. At UVA, they trickle in over the space of weeks.

I have fellow interns from Berkeley and Duke that are dealing with the trickling. Both are waiting for 1 grade still I think.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:41 pm

Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby chadwick218 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:44 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.


How late did they come out in January for Fall 2011? For some reason, my recollection seems to be around 9:30 ...

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby 09042014 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:46 pm

chadwick218 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.


How late did they come out in January for Fall 2011? For some reason, my recollection seems to be around 9:30 ...


Right at the end of lawyers as problem solvers. So maybe 8 assuming it started at 6.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Sauer Grapes » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:47 pm

chadwick218 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.


How late did they come out in January for Fall 2011? For some reason, my recollection seems to be around 9:30 ...

It hit my gmail at 9. So 8:30ish when they started to trickle out I'd guess.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:50 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.


How late did they come out in January for Fall 2011? For some reason, my recollection seems to be around 9:30 ...

It hit my gmail at 9. So 8:30ish when they started to trickle out I'd guess.

Mine posted around 6. Had a night class and heard someone say "Grades are starting to come out." Email didn't come out till 9 because there were night classes that night i'm guessing.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Remnantofisrael » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:51 pm

Flips88 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
chadwick218 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Almost nine? I'm calling it, not happeNing tonight.


How late did they come out in January for Fall 2011? For some reason, my recollection seems to be around 9:30 ...

It hit my gmail at 9. So 8:30ish when they started to trickle out I'd guess.

Mine posted around 6. Had a night class and heard someone say "Grades are starting to come out." Email didn't come out till 9 because there were night classes that night i'm guessing.


Yep. Had a night class as well. Came out right before 6pm.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Sauer Grapes » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:57 pm

OK... I'm on board the not tonight boat. Maybe tomorrow.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby rayiner » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:29 pm

Sauer Grapes wrote:OK... I'm on board the not tonight boat. Maybe tomorrow.


It's definitely late. Spring 2010 and Spring 2011 were both exactly 28 days after the last exam day.

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Re: Northwestern Students Taking Questions and Challenges

Postby Flips88 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:33 pm

rayiner wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:OK... I'm on board the not tonight boat. Maybe tomorrow.


It's definitely late. Spring 2010 and Spring 2011 were both exactly 28 days after the last exam day.

And we're at 33 now right?




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