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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby fred013 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:49 am

codyoneill wrote:
LawBron James wrote:
codyoneill wrote:
Fred Norris wrote:Stayed in Watertown for ASW. Really liked the area. Especially liked being able to drive my car around places - love strip malls etc. I am a major "suburbs" person.

How much cheaper is a 1 BR in Watertown vs. cambridge?


Much much cheaper.

But you will be one of very few HLS students there. I personally don't know an HLS student who lives in Watertown. Almost everyone lives in Cambridge/Somerville, with a handful of people across the river in Brighton/Allston.

Is the commute from the Brighton area rough as a 1L? Seems like things are a little more affordable over there.


It all depends on your definition of rough.

As someone with work experience before 1L, I thought that a 10-15 minute walk to school from Cambridge was ideal.

I arrived and many of my classmates—subsequently my friends—found the walk from campus to my place (in the winter, in the cold) unbearable and unenviable.

As a 1L, the vast majority of my classmates live within one block from the law school. If I lived in Brighton, I wouldn't be able to socialize nearly as much, because most plans are impromptu and the bus takes time.

That being said, the commute from Brighton is better than many non-law-school commutes. The 86 bus is pretty reliable.

It all depends on your expectations. But you will be in the minority of students living far from campus, for whatever that is worth.



this. you can do it. but you will have no friends.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby LawBron James » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:14 am

fred013 wrote:
codyoneill wrote:
LawBron James wrote:
codyoneill wrote:
Much much cheaper.

But you will be one of very few HLS students there. I personally don't know an HLS student who lives in Watertown. Almost everyone lives in Cambridge/Somerville, with a handful of people across the river in Brighton/Allston.

Is the commute from the Brighton area rough as a 1L? Seems like things are a little more affordable over there.


It all depends on your definition of rough.

As someone with work experience before 1L, I thought that a 10-15 minute walk to school from Cambridge was ideal.

I arrived and many of my classmates—subsequently my friends—found the walk from campus to my place (in the winter, in the cold) unbearable and unenviable.

As a 1L, the vast majority of my classmates live within one block from the law school. If I lived in Brighton, I wouldn't be able to socialize nearly as much, because most plans are impromptu and the bus takes time.

That being said, the commute from Brighton is better than many non-law-school commutes. The 86 bus is pretty reliable.

It all depends on your expectations. But you will be in the minority of students living far from campus, for whatever that is worth.



this. you can do it. but you will have no friends.

Haha, ok. Thanks for the bluntness. I was planning on moving in with a buddy who works downtown and my SO who would also likely be working downtown, so I'm trying to find a middle ground. A 2 bedroom in HUH seems like it would be ideal, but I'm not sure how fast those go.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby HorseThief » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:23 am

LawBron James wrote:Haha, ok. Thanks for the bluntness. I was planning on moving in with a buddy who works downtown and my SO who would also likely be working downtown, so I'm trying to find a middle ground. A 2 bedroom in HUH seems like it would be ideal, but I'm not sure how fast those go.


Very fast. Unless you're willing to be relatively far away from the law school, you'll have trouble getting a 2BR. 29 Garden and Terry Terrace will be your best bets, Botanic Gardens is close enough to Porter Square that your friend/SO can get downtown easily. You might also want to look at Peabody Terrace- it's a bit of a hike for you, but close enough to Harvard Square for everyone else.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby LawBron James » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:42 pm

HorseThief wrote:
LawBron James wrote:Haha, ok. Thanks for the bluntness. I was planning on moving in with a buddy who works downtown and my SO who would also likely be working downtown, so I'm trying to find a middle ground. A 2 bedroom in HUH seems like it would be ideal, but I'm not sure how fast those go.


Very fast. Unless you're willing to be relatively far away from the law school, you'll have trouble getting a 2BR. 29 Garden and Terry Terrace will be your best bets, Botanic Gardens is close enough to Porter Square that your friend/SO can get downtown easily. You might also want to look at Peabody Terrace- it's a bit of a hike for you, but close enough to Harvard Square for everyone else.

Thanks for the info. I really like the look of 29 Garden, and if there are 2 beds available when I go up for the next ASW, I might pounce on that.

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Postby TripTrip » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:09 pm

LawBron James wrote:Haha, ok. Thanks for the bluntness. I was planning on moving in with a buddy who works downtown and my SO who would also likely be working downtown, so I'm trying to find a middle ground.

FYI Brighton is not a good middle between Harvard and Downtown. Anywhere in Cambridge and you can take the Red Line. Brighton you would have to take the Green line, which is horrifically slower because it has so many stops. Cost aside, Harvard Square is closer to downtown Boston than most of Brighton for all practical purposes.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby fred013 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:40 am

is there a list anywhere of the best professors to have LORs from for clerkships?

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Postby robotrick » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:49 am

I'm sure it's too early for a 1L to worry about this, but I'm getting curious about FIP. Specifically, does the Public Interest portion (PIIP) actually lead to government jobs for students?

Also, is there a list anywhere of employers who have come to FIP in recent years? I couldn't find anything in my search but HLS is good at making things hard to find.

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Postby tomwatts » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:42 pm

fred013 wrote:is there a list anywhere of the best professors to have LORs from for clerkships?

No. Nor would such a list make sense. There is, however, a list of profs who clerked and who they clerked for. (Here: https://www.law.harvard.edu/current/car ... kships.pdf. Note: This list is incomplete.)
robotrick wrote:I'm sure it's too early for a 1L to worry about this, but I'm getting curious about FIP. Specifically, does the Public Interest portion (PIIP) actually lead to government jobs for students?

Also, is there a list anywhere of employers who have come to FIP in recent years? I couldn't find anything in my search but HLS is good at making things hard to find.

In a very limited subset of cases, but rarely. In PI, you pretty much have to go out and apply to the employers yourself.

This appears to be the old list: https://www.law.harvard.edu/current/car ... e/oci.html

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby wwwcol » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:03 pm

tomwatts wrote:
fred013 wrote:is there a list anywhere of the best professors to have LORs from for clerkships?

No. Nor would such a list make sense. There is, however, a list of profs who clerked and who they clerked for. (Here: https://www.law.harvard.edu/current/car ... kships.pdf. Note: This list is incomplete.)


Just as a reminder fred013 is a troll and we should collectively ignore everything he asks.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby robotrick » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:37 pm

tomwatts wrote:In a very limited subset of cases, but rarely. In PI, you pretty much have to go out and apply to the employers yourself.

This appears to be the old list: https://www.law.harvard.edu/current/car ... e/oci.html

Thanks!

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby tomwatts » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:45 pm

wwwcol wrote:Just as a reminder fred013 is a troll and we should collectively ignore everything he asks.

I've decided to take a different approach, because no one seemed to be listening to me (and others) when we said this. That is, an answer always ended up appearing, regardless.

So, instead, I'm going to give the most peremptory answer I possibly can, in order that the thread not get cluttered with fred's BS and responses to it.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby rathgra » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:08 pm

robotrick wrote:I'm sure it's too early for a 1L to worry about this, but I'm getting curious about FIP. Specifically, does the Public Interest portion (PIIP) actually lead to government jobs for students?

Also, is there a list anywhere of employers who have come to FIP in recent years? I couldn't find anything in my search but HLS is good at making things hard to find.


If an office at PIIP is interviewing 3Ls, it's for a job. I know a handful of people who got jobs through it - offices with multiple rounds of interviews use it as a first round.

2Ls are for summer positions. I imagine a summer most places would help you out in the job hiring process (obviously assuming the summer went well), but it's my impression it's not a virtual guarantee of a job like EIP is (speaking generally).

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Orion311 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:22 pm

Where do on-campus students go to get groceries? How are the communal washrooms in Hastings/Gropius? Are they well cleaned/maintained or are they kind of gross? How about the kitchens?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby TripTrip » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:30 pm

Orion311 wrote:Where do on-campus students go to get groceries? How are the communal washrooms in Hastings/Gropius? Are they well cleaned/maintained or are they kind of gross? How about the kitchens?

There's a Star Market on Beacon and a bigger one (with a way better meat selection) in Porter Square.

More dedicated shoppers make the hike to Market Basket or Trader Joes.

The communal washrooms are fine. The building staff cleans them every day. The kitchens are hit or miss. Usually there's at least two or three people who decide to make super elaborate meals in there every day (I'm looking at you, LLMs...). Without those people, the experience is fine. You'll find that your proximity to the kitchen (and whether you're near a kitchen with a table or by a seating area) severely affects your willingness to prepare food.

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Postby tomwatts » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:43 pm

Some kitchens — Ames 3 — are busier than others because they serve more floors. I never had a problem bringing the food back to my room and eating there, even when my room was on a different floor (though getting through the locked doors while carrying hot soup was pretty annoying).

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby a.sleepyhead » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:19 pm

For people who sublet their apartments over the summer, is it standard or acceptable to do so at a slight loss if you have a more expensive apartment? I've never done this before so excuse the potentially stupid question.

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Postby Pneumonia » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:19 am

When do HLAB/BSA/LR decisions come out, respectively?

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Postby acrossthelake » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:25 pm

a.sleepyhead wrote:For people who sublet their apartments over the summer, is it standard or acceptable to do so at a slight loss if you have a more expensive apartment? I've never done this before so excuse the potentially stupid question.


I took a slight loss when I did this. Like $100 for the entire summer.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby o0o0o0o » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:39 am

Anyone have thoughts on the relative merits of the profs teaching Fed Courts and Corps next year?

Fed Courts-
Fallon
V. Jackson
Field

Corps-
Ramseyer
Andrew Gold (visiting)
Kraakman
Ryan Bubb (visiting)
Clark
Spamann

Thanks!

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Postby Doorkeeper » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:06 pm

o0o0o0o wrote:Anyone have thoughts on the relative merits of the profs teaching Fed Courts and Corps next year?

Fed Courts-
Fallon
V. Jackson
Field

Corps-
Ramseyer
Andrew Gold (visiting)
Kraakman
Ryan Bubb (visiting)
Clark
Spamann

Thanks!


Fallon is the best listed for fed courts, but also consider that probably all of the law review will be in that class as a result. Jackson might be a viable alternative. Stay away from Field.

For corps, that's a really shitty line up. Stay away from Kraakman. Ramseyer and Clark are meh. I have some friends that really like Spamann, but I don't know much about him. You might want to ask about Bubb over on the NYU thread.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby fred013 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:07 pm

for 2Ls, how many BLL multi section courses should we shoot for? 2? what are the popular options?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby o0o0o0o » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:16 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
o0o0o0o wrote:Anyone have thoughts on the relative merits of the profs teaching Fed Courts and Corps next year?

Fed Courts-
Fallon
V. Jackson
Field

Corps-
Ramseyer
Andrew Gold (visiting)
Kraakman
Ryan Bubb (visiting)
Clark
Spamann

Thanks!


Fallon is the best listed for fed courts, but also consider that probably all of the law review will be in that class as a result. Jackson might be a viable alternative. Stay away from Field.

For corps, that's a really shitty line up. Stay away from Kraakman. Ramseyer and Clark are meh. I have some friends that really like Spamann, but I don't know much about him. You might want to ask about Bubb over on the NYU thread.


Thanks.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Searchparty » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:11 pm

FWIW Ryan Bubb presented a paper in a seminar I was in and if I were to extrapolate I'd say he'd do a fairly good job.

I just finished the sublet process for my apartment in HUH and I took about a $2500 loss. This was in part because I lowered the rent and my subtenant wasn't staying for the whole time period. Most requests I had were for about 2 months. I lowered my rent because I saw another person listing the same unit in my apartment building for cheaper, so I figured it was appropriate.

HUH sublet is slightly more difficult because they must be a Harvard affiliate.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby blueberrycrumble » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:12 pm

How do KJDs fare in OCI? With good grades? With average grades? Etc.

Sorry if this is an extremely broad question.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:52 pm

blueberrycrumble wrote:How do KJDs fare in OCI? With good grades? With average grades? Etc.

Sorry if this is an extremely broad question.
blueberrycrumble wrote:How do KJDs fare in OCI? With good grades? With average grades? Etc.

Sorry if this is an extremely broad question.


The answer is probably that there's too much variability to make meaningful predictions, although some cities and firms tend to be more predictable than others. Have you read through the HLS 2013 and 14 EIP threads on the employment section yet? If no, definitely check those out.

Also, now is not the best time to fret over EIP. Your energy is better spent crushing spring semester (if you're a 1L).




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