MyNameIsFlynn! wrote:Do clinical hours count toward the min. 52 hours upper-level requirement? I'm wondering whether you're still on track if you take a 4-hr clinic and maybe 7 or 8 more hours of traditional classes?
Yes. It's the 36 classroom credits that exclude clinics. The 52 credits includes everything: classroom, clinic, writing, and cross-registration.
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Feldman 1A vs. Feldman 14A vs. Klarman 14A vs. Minow 14A?
I have gone to the occasional event where Feldman and Minow speak, and I am in Klarman's 14th class now. All are good, particularly Feldman and Klarman. 1st Amendment is a different class (and is what Feldman usually teaches) — Feldman for 14th is a little weird, but could be really good (I don't know, and probably no one knows). He's brilliant; it's unlikely to be bad either way.
Klarman's 14th is lecture-based (no cold calls) and goes pretty fast over a lot
of stuff; you learn a lot, it's pretty entertaining, and, well, it's every bit as good as everyone says it is. He's a historian and very inclined toward the idea that doctrine doesn't tell you a lot; you cover doctrine, but he doesn't put a lot of faith in it, so you might want to go to a different class if this will annoy you. For being such a good teacher and having such a huge number of students, he's remarkable accessible, too.
Other than that Minow is a capable public speaker, I don't know anything about her class.
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Whiting for Evidence
Highly respected. Everyone I've talked to strongly recommends this class. (He's not the only good Evidence person, but he is definitely a
good Evidence person.)
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Ogletree vs. Sullivan for TAW
Don't know anything.
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Sunstein vs. Stephenson for Admin Law
Stephenson. It's not close. Sunstein is a great scholar with tremendous experience doing interesting things. But you want Stephenson for this class.
Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Manning vs. Fallon for Fed Courts
Both are very, very good. I had Manning for Leg Reg, and I think he's great. Everyone I've talked to who took Fallon also highly recommends him. Both are also likely to need to be preferenced fairly high; HLS dropped from 4 Fed Courts classes in 2012-13 to 3 Fed Courts classes in 2013-14 to 2 Fed Courts classes in 2014-15. (I don't know why.)
If it makes a difference, I expect Fed Courts waitlists for the spring to move a lot more than for the fall. This is the sort of class that 3Ls talk other 3Ls out of taking unless they have to take it because, say, they're clerking. Thus, my guess is that you have to preference Fallon pretty close to #1 to get the class, but you might be able to get Manning a little lower. That said, I'm just guessing.
wert3813 wrote:Warren 6th...Is that something that is so pointless I may as well not put it because I'm not gonna get it and it is just going to decrease the chance I get my 7th choice? How high does Warren have to be? 1 or 2?
I can't remember whether I ended up getting into Warren or not. I put him #9 last year, just to see what would happen, and I ended up over 300 on the waitlist and it didn't move really at all until right before the semester started. Then a bunch of people started dropping, presumably because they didn't want to wake up that early. (Come to think of it, I must not have gotten in, because otherwise I probably would've taken the class; I had nothing that conflicted with it.)
My guess would be that if you put him in the top 3 or so, you stand a decent chance, but be prepared to deal with being on a waitlist for a loooooooong time.