wert3813 wrote:Weinreb for crim right now. yeah... anyway thanks. Nobody here has experience getting either Klarman or NW (jan term) from two I take it? Regardless this has been helpful, thanks.
Just in case my earlier post wasn't clear: if you preference Negotiation in Winter as your #1 and Klarman in fall as your #2, I think you're very likely to get both, though probably off the waitlist (for both classes). I'm less confident about Negotiation as #2 and Klarman as #1 — you'll get Klarman for sure, and I think
you'll get Negotiation, but you might have to wait until winter elective preferencing in October before the waitlists move enough.
I think that the Klarman waitlist will move a lot
. I knew someone who was 90-something on the Klarman 14th Amendment waitlist last year (when it was in the fall), and she got into the class, though possibly not until the week of class. I don't think winter term Negotiation waitlists move much, though. The problem with winter term is that the stuff that drives fall waitlists to move isn't in play in the winter. People drop fall term classes because they're trying to design a schedule — as they get into classes that conflict with ones they already had, or that drive them over credit limits, or whatever, they drop them. In winter, it's just a matter of which one class you want and can get into, so winter waitlists don't move as much. Negotiation, as a multi-section, might be different; people might (in October) preference an elective, get it, and then drop Negotiation (which they preferenced in April). So I'm not very certain.
In general, waitlists for multi-section courses move during preferencing and add/drop for every term, so you'll see a lot of movement in multi-section waitlists during fall elective preferencing (which is a week later) and during add/drop the next few weeks as people sort things out. Then everything sits for a while, but you see a fair bit more movement in August and September right before and as classes start. Then nothing happens until October, when winter and spring elective preferencing happen (consecutively), and waitlists move a bunch more. Also, waitlists for winter and spring courses tend to move more in October than they did in April/August, because that's when elective preferencing for those terms happens. So if you're, say, 10 on the waitlist for Negotiation after multi-section preferencing, you might get in during preferencing in October — which has only the disadvantage that you don't know for six months what you're going to be doing in winter term, which probably isn't a big deal.
I know all this because I actually preferenced a million classes and stayed on waitlists because I wanted to know how they moved so that I could preference better for my last year. For example, I knew I wasn't going to be able to take Fallon's spring First Amendment class, but I preferenced it #8 to see what would happen, and I got into it after initially being over 300 on the waitlist. I then dropped it and must have made somebody ridiculously happy.
rathgra wrote:FWIW, there were slots in Klarman available through the fire sale this spring.
This turns out not to mean anything, although it's not intuitive that it doesn't. The fire sale just means that add/drop period didn't resolve everything, and they need to accelerate the process. There was a fire sale slot for Klarman's Warren Court seminar in the fall, when I (after preferencing it #1) was 46 on the waitlist — having started at 48 on the waitlist. I put in a firesale offer, but because they take people based on position on the waitlist, I'm pretty sure I wasn't even close to getting in. I would've needed to be, say, 1 or 2 on the waitlist to get in off the firesale.
rathgra wrote:Does anyone know how competitive the family law clinic is?
I'm semi-sure the answer is not very. You can add Child Advocacy during add/drop, and it's mostly the same crowd as Family Law.