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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:49 pm

3 H's for the year is median, I think... but considering all the permutations, it doesn't seem fruitful to gauge after 1 semester considering people can go 0/3, 3/0, 1/2, 2/1 etc...

I'm actually surprised Median is 3 H's considering you can basically guarantee yourself median by gunning for 3 classes and punting 7 classes but maybe it's harder to do in practice since you could get pwned in the classes you don't punt...

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby tomwatts » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:57 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:I'm actually surprised Median is 3 H's considering you can basically guarantee yourself median by gunning for 3 classes and punting 7 classes but maybe it's harder to do in practice since you could get pwned in the classes you don't punt...

Yes, the problem is that law school grades are too random to do this. And if you could, why would you want to? Why not gun for 4 classes, just be a bit above median? Or 5, because... and so it goes.

By the way, I hope for all the best for TLSers who got their grades today.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:08 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
I'm actually surprised Median is 3 H's considering you can basically guarantee yourself median by gunning for 3 classes and punting 7 classes but maybe it's harder to do in practice since you could get pwned in the classes you don't punt...


I've gotten my best grades in classes I generally failed to show up and do the reading for. You can't really guarantee yourself anything.

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Postby KindleNexusfan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:12 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
I'm actually surprised Median is 3 H's considering you can basically guarantee yourself median by gunning for 3 classes and punting 7 classes but maybe it's harder to do in practice since you could get pwned in the classes you don't punt...


I've gotten my best grades in classes I generally failed to show up and do the reading for. You can't really guarantee yourself anything.

This x1000. DS in class I never went to and studied for from a 50 page treatise and P in class I always went to and outlined for.
BTW, should I send out clerkship apps now or wait for Jterm grade since I think it will be good? Think those will be released before feb 15?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:14 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:3 H's for the year is median, I think...

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

That seems low to me.

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Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:15 pm

EDIT: Didn't realize KNF was a 2L.
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:16 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:3 H's for the year is median, I think...

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

That seems low to me.


I've heard this several places. I'm not really sure if it's true. Although I certainly hope it is!

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Postby Nom Sawyer » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:17 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:3 H's for the year is median, I think...

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

That seems low to me.


Yeah 3H is def right around the median. The numbers are always fuzzy in that area but the OCS folks actually say 2-3H is median.

While 2 might be a stretch, when it comes down to interviewing you can basically treat those grades as median for NY. And this was two years ago, hiring has likely gone up compared to our year.

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Postby lameslice57 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:20 pm

In my OCS meeting, my advisor said 4 Hs was probably median, 3 if you wanted to fudge it a bit.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby PinkCow » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:21 pm

I'm assuming this median talk is all for 1L. Does anyone know if it's different for 2L? More/less? Most people seem to take a lighter load for 2L. Not sure if that affects the #s.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:26 pm

So 3-4 Hs is around median then? Interesting. For some reason I thought it was around 4-5.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:40 pm

acrossthelake wrote:I've gotten my best grades in classes I generally failed to show up and do the reading for. You can't really guarantee yourself anything.


Agreed. I think the less fucks you give, the better you do. Maybe it's just coincidence but that's my theory.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:44 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:So 3-4 Hs is around median then? Interesting. For some reason I thought it was around 4-5.


it's closer to 2 than to 4, I believe, so 3 is fairly accurate. someone did the math one time. according to the statistician, if the distribution was perfect (?), which it isn't, median would be someone with straight P's. then again, i'm no statistician.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Nom Sawyer » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:46 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:So 3-4 Hs is around median then? Interesting. For some reason I thought it was around 4-5.


If based completely on a randomized distribution then median should be around 3.7 H, so either 3 or 4 H would be right at median. However as it is not completely randomized (aka some people who get Hs are more likely to get several together) this pushes the median down a lot closer to centering right at 3Hs.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:47 pm

Nom Sawyer wrote:If based completely on a randomized distribution then median should be around 3.7 H, so either 3 or 4 H would be right at median. However as it is not completely randomized (aka some people who get Hs are more likely to get several together) this pushes the median down a lot closer to centering right at 3Hs.


great.

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Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:52 pm

Hope to see all you 2Ls at the Halfway-thru-Harvard party. 8)

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby bigbirdfly » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:55 pm

How many H's does the median student have after 1L fall?

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Postby Hattori Hanzo » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:57 pm

bigbirdfly wrote:How many H's does the median student have after 1L fall?


1.5. Law students OBVIOUSLY can't do math.

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby DoubleChecks » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:57 pm

Bit hard to say...but after the full 1L yr it should be 3-4 out of the 10 classes. So I'd say...2? lol

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:08 pm

Anyone got legit outlines?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby delusional » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:29 pm

acrossthelake wrote:Hope to see all you 2Ls at the Halfway-thru-Harvard party. 8)
How will we know who you are?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby delusional » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:29 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:Anyone got legit outlines?
What does this mean?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:52 pm

delusional wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:Anyone got legit outlines?
What does this mean?


like super good outlines...

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby ph14 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:58 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
delusional wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:Anyone got legit outlines?
What does this mean?


like super good outlines...


For what class/prof?

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby Blessedassurance » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:59 pm

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