Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby sharktankdean » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:06 pm

Will we get an official copy of the textbooks emailed to us?...or is what is on the COOP valid.. I ask this because after putting in my section number, one of the prof listed isn't teaching my section. Also is the administrative law textbook for Legislation and Regulation?

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Postby delusional » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:17 pm

sharktankdean wrote:Will we get an official copy of the textbooks emailed to us?...or is what is on the COOP valid.. I ask this because after putting in my section number, one of the prof listed isn't teaching my section. Also is the administrative law textbook for Legislation and Regulation?
Who do you have for Leg Reg? Some profs definitely assigned an Admin textbook.

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Postby sharktankdean » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:31 pm

delusional wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:Will we get an official copy of the textbooks emailed to us?...or is what is on the COOP valid.. I ask this because after putting in my section number, one of the prof listed isn't teaching my section. Also is the administrative law textbook for Legislation and Regulation?
Who do you have for Leg Reg? Some profs definitely assigned an Admin textbook.



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Postby smittytron3k » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:37 pm

The book is Legislation and Regulation by Manning & Stephenson.

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Postby acrossthelake » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:43 pm

Onthebrink wrote:I may as well add my voice to the chorus as I am full to bursting with questions! Thanks as always to the upperclassmen for answering these questions.

Civ Pro with the aforementioned awesome Rubenstein.

Torts with Goldberg

Leg Reg with Hickman

Contracts with Frug

LRW with either Muller or Eisenberg.


Goldberg is very straightforward with BLL. He has powerpoint slides. He has some good jokes. I think his section last year described him as the distant, but friendly, father of their section. Sort of a let-down if you're hoping to get into theory for torts, though he brushes up against policy. Definitely very easy to learn from--expect torts to be simple (though that doesn't help the curve).

Frug is very quirky. He also has been giving the same lecture for the past 30 years and reuses exams from the 80s.

The people I knew who had Eisenberg found her to be a nice person, and a...less than desirable LRW instructor, to put it nicely.

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Postby sharktankdean » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:44 pm

smittytron3k wrote:The book is Legislation and Regulation by Manning & Stephenson.



So Im guessing this means different sections could use different textbooks for the same class. right? a friend in another section had administration law on his textbook list, thats why I was wondering if the COOP was up-to-date.

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Postby Jambalaya » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:19 pm

I got my section assignment, but the email didn't mention what courses I'd have first semester or who my professors will be except for one of them (the faculty leader for the section who sent out the email).
How do I find out who my professors are and what courses I have first semester?

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Postby ph14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:21 pm

Jambalaya wrote:I got my section assignment, but the email didn't mention what courses I'd have first semester or who my professors will be except for one of them (the faculty leader for the section who sent out the email).
How do I find out who my professors are and what courses I have first semester?


One way I suppose would be to go to the HLS Coop website and look at what classes/textbooks are assigned for your section (located under "First Year"). Alternatively, you can post here, and we can probably tell you.

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Postby smittytron3k » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:24 pm

sharktankdean wrote:
smittytron3k wrote:The book is Legislation and Regulation by Manning & Stephenson.



So Im guessing this means different sections could use different textbooks for the same class. right? a friend in another section had administration law on his textbook list, thats why I was wondering if the COOP was up-to-date.


I know for a fact that this is the textbook for Manning's class, but I don't know about other classes. I think (but am not positive) that Vermeule used Administrative Law (Gellhorn/Byse), and that Tushnet used Rise and Fall of the Regulatory State. More broadly, you are correct that different sections/professors use different casebooks.

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Postby Jambalaya » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:26 pm

(Responding to ph14) I'm in Section 7, and the Coop website only has two Contracts books up for me right now.
Thank you to all the upperclassmen on this thread.

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Postby ph14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:27 pm

Jambalaya wrote:(Responding to ph14) I'm in Section 7, and the Coop website only has two Contracts books up for me right now.
Thank you to all the upperclassmen on this thread.


What professors do you have? Good luck everyone starting 1L. I am always happy to answer questions by pm if you don't want to post in the thread, as well.

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Postby Jambalaya » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:35 pm

All the email said is that I'm in Section 7, Todd Rakoff is the faculty leader of the Section, and he'll also be my Contracts professor. It didn't say anything about other professors, unfortunately. Is there any way to find out who they are?

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Postby thederangedwang » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:35 pm

Jambalaya wrote:All the email said is that I'm in Section 7, Tod Rakoff is the faculty leader of the Section, and he'll also be my Contracts professor. It didn't say anything about other professors, unfortunately. Is there any way to find out who they are?

look at my post, 1 page back, bottom of page..im in your section

you can find our your schdule by using the course catalog..this is what everybody in the admitted students hls facebook group did

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Postby Jambalaya » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:49 pm

Thanks, thederangedwang!

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Postby Luchando » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:08 pm

Thoughts on the following profs for Section 6?

Civil Procedure- Jack Goldsmith
Contracts- Adam Levitin (visiting from Georgetown)
Torts- Jon Hanson
Legislation and Regulation- Susan Davies

Also, which of the TLS guides are worth reading for those of us about to start? Can you link to their location on TLS?

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Postby smittytron3k » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:44 am

Another FYI: the Suk who is teaching Civ Pro is not Jeannie Suk (permanent HLS faculty, cold, usually teaches crim) but rather Julie Suk, who is visiting from Cardozo.

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Postby tomwatts » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:55 am

acappella wrote:Jumping in with:

Civ Pro with Suk
Crim with Lanni
Legislation and Regulation with Manning
Torts with Sargentich
LRW with either Fleming or Stoughton

I'll try to PM later with thoughts, but two things immediately come to mind:

1. Thank your lucky stars, because you've got great teachers.
2. You've got Civ Pro and Crim in the same semester. They did that only to Section 7 last year. You might die. Both are really intense, doctrine-heavy classes. But Crim and Torts side-by-side is nice, and Leg Reg before Contracts is nice, too.

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Postby roranoa » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:36 am

Do you think Asians are at a disadvantage in becoming partner at Biglaw because of, well, their race?
(I'm not racist. I'm Asian. So it's okay for me to ask this:))

Biglaw partners are mostly White, and most of those White people are Jewish, which is a very tight community.

How hard do you think it is for an Asian dude to make himself some room in that circle?

I wanted to ask this question to people at HLS. (Because I think there are a lot of Asians at this school)

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Postby madvillain » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:55 am

hey guys i'm in section one! we have a facebook group up and running already, feel free to join so we can meet up before orientation =) https://www.facebook.com/groups/405391949524311/

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Postby yansky22 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:21 am

Does it matter what edition of the Bluebook we get? Is 2010 the latest one? Thanks!

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Postby Zelda » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:14 pm

Advice/Used Books? PM me. Thanks!

Civil Procedure (Greiner)
Contracts (Lessig)
Legislation & Regulation (Stephenson)
Torts (Shugerman)

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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions

Postby fatduck » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:32 pm

what's up with the different evidence courses varying from 2-4 credit hours? they all seem to have pretty much identical course descriptions. any reason to pick one over the others?

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Postby ph14 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:38 pm

fatduck wrote:what's up with the different evidence courses varying from 2-4 credit hours? they all seem to have pretty much identical course descriptions. any reason to pick one over the others?


I asked this to people, couldn't really get a good answer. I'd go for 4 credits though, which I will assume is the full class.




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