Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions Forum
- echamberlin8
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:28 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
-
- Posts: 39
- Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 4:15 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Do any of you have experience with the "From Harvard Square to the Oval Office" program? Is it typical something one would put on their resume? How much of an edge does it give to graduates when it comes to finding policy and politics-related positions?
Thanks
Thanks
-
- Posts: 669
- Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:40 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
FWIW, it's pretty easy to cross-reg if you want to take some HBS/HKS classes. I'm not sure the JD/MBA is worth the investment if you plan to go into biglaw.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
-
- Posts: 47
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:29 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Another question for tomwatts (or anyone else doing a dual degree):
It seems to me that one of the most important aspects of a law degree (especially from Harvard) is the relationships you build with your classmates. The JD/MPP program kind of chronologically knocks you out of your cohort. Are you going to make any kind of concerted effort to stay involved with the law school during your year at HKS? (I'm curious because I'm doing a JD/MPP starting at HLS in the fall).
Side note, will your email address still have ".jd14" even though you'll be graduating in '15?
It seems to me that one of the most important aspects of a law degree (especially from Harvard) is the relationships you build with your classmates. The JD/MPP program kind of chronologically knocks you out of your cohort. Are you going to make any kind of concerted effort to stay involved with the law school during your year at HKS? (I'm curious because I'm doing a JD/MPP starting at HLS in the fall).
Side note, will your email address still have ".jd14" even though you'll be graduating in '15?
-
- Posts: 1710
- Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:01 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Yeah, I'll be at HKS in the fall.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
My feeling is that if you think you would really enjoy and be interested in taking the first-year core (which I heard that you can't cross-register for — you have to cross-register at MIT's Sloan if you want first-year MBA courses), and if the debt won't be a problem (because you're going to go for biglaw, etc.), then you may as well go for it. The Harvard JD/MBA is one of the best-established and strongest joint degree programs anywhere.
Yes, I am going to try to stay involved with the law school while I'm gone. Some of the activities are pretty open to keeping you on while you're away for the year. I'm going to try to stay involved with my journal, HLPR, which is awash with joint-degree students, and there will be a few other things. A good number (maybe 3 or 4?) students from my section are JD/MPP students, too, so it's not as though I'm totally severing my relationship with the people I've known this year.PKozi wrote:Another question for tomwatts (or anyone else doing a dual degree):
It seems to me that one of the most important aspects of a law degree (especially from Harvard) is the relationships you build with your classmates. The JD/MPP program kind of chronologically knocks you out of your cohort. Are you going to make any kind of concerted effort to stay involved with the law school during your year at HKS? (I'm curious because I'm doing a JD/MPP starting at HLS in the fall).
Side note, will your email address still have ".jd14" even though you'll be graduating in '15?
And yeah, my email address is staying .jd14, despite the actual graduation year.
Want to continue reading?
Register now to search topics and post comments!
Absolutely FREE!
Already a member? Login
- SubwaySandwich
- Posts: 27
- Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:46 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
For those living in Terry Terrace or know people living there:
Do you know how bad the construction/maintenance has been in terms of noise there recently? I'm currently deciding on whether to sign a lease there, but there were documents in the lease saying that multiple construction projects on the building will occur in the following year. I'm a little bit wary.
Thanks for any help!
Do you know how bad the construction/maintenance has been in terms of noise there recently? I'm currently deciding on whether to sign a lease there, but there were documents in the lease saying that multiple construction projects on the building will occur in the following year. I'm a little bit wary.
Thanks for any help!
- Ballislife
- Posts: 10
- Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:43 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Can anyone talk about their experience working with Prof Elhauge as a 0L RA?
-
- Posts: 4086
- Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 5:27 pm
- snailio
- Posts: 209
- Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:40 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
acrossthelake wrote:The one good friend I have who lives in Terry Terrace hasn't mentioned it, though that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a problem. (He could just choose not to whine about it.)SubwaySandwich wrote:For those living in Terry Terrace or know people living there:
Do you know how bad the construction/maintenance has been in terms of noise there recently? I'm currently deciding on whether to sign a lease there, but there were documents in the lease saying that multiple construction projects on the building will occur in the following year. I'm a little bit wary.
Thanks for any help!
The Major annoyance with Terry Terrace was the construction of the North building (The Wasserstein Hall, Caspersen Student Center), now that it's done I would think the relatively minor work on Terry Terrace itself would be no big deal. You could always walk across the street to study if you were so inclined. The location is superlative.
- Blessedassurance
- Posts: 2091
- Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:42 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Oh crap, I got a dorm room on a floor with a lounge. Then again, I like parties
Can someone please un-ban my ip address? I could have used this information before selecting.
Can someone please un-ban my ip address? I could have used this information before selecting.
- echamberlin8
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:28 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Thanks. Do you think it would be worth it if I think I'd eventually move away from BigLaw and into another industry? For instance, move onto a consulting firm or something equivalent after 3-4 years at BigLaw? Or is having a JD sufficient for firms like that?concurrent fork wrote:FWIW, it's pretty easy to cross-reg if you want to take some HBS/HKS classes. I'm not sure the JD/MBA is worth the investment if you plan to go into biglaw.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
- echamberlin8
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:28 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
That's what I was thinking in terms of the JD/MBA. I undoubtedly will have to go into BigLaw for a while anyways if I get into HLS, since I'm going to be paying pretty close to sticker (hopefully could get some needs-based aid, but I'm not sure exactly how that works), so why not get an MBA while I'm there to maximize my time and investment?tomwatts wrote:Yeah, I'll be at HKS in the fall.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
My feeling is that if you think you would really enjoy and be interested in taking the first-year core (which I heard that you can't cross-register for — you have to cross-register at MIT's Sloan if you want first-year MBA courses), and if the debt won't be a problem (because you're going to go for biglaw, etc.), then you may as well go for it. The Harvard JD/MBA is one of the best-established and strongest joint degree programs anywhere.Yes, I am going to try to stay involved with the law school while I'm gone. Some of the activities are pretty open to keeping you on while you're away for the year. I'm going to try to stay involved with my journal, HLPR, which is awash with joint-degree students, and there will be a few other things. A good number (maybe 3 or 4?) students from my section are JD/MPP students, too, so it's not as though I'm totally severing my relationship with the people I've known this year.PKozi wrote:Another question for tomwatts (or anyone else doing a dual degree):
It seems to me that one of the most important aspects of a law degree (especially from Harvard) is the relationships you build with your classmates. The JD/MPP program kind of chronologically knocks you out of your cohort. Are you going to make any kind of concerted effort to stay involved with the law school during your year at HKS? (I'm curious because I'm doing a JD/MPP starting at HLS in the fall).
Side note, will your email address still have ".jd14" even though you'll be graduating in '15?
And yeah, my email address is staying .jd14, despite the actual graduation year.
Not sure if I read your message properly, but is it true that you can get a HLS JD and a MIT MBA if one doesn't get into HBS?
-
- Posts: 73
- Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:52 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Also considering a joint degree (JD/MBA) and had the exact same concern. FWIW, the current editor of the Law Review is a JD/MBA student. Pretty good evidence that doing a joint doesn't hamstring your involvement at HLS, if you ask me.PKozi wrote:The JD/MPP program kind of chronologically knocks you out of your cohort. Are you going to make any kind of concerted effort to stay involved with the law school during your year at HKS? (I'm curious because I'm doing a JD/MPP starting at HLS in the fall).
Register now!
Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.
It's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- englawyer
- Posts: 1271
- Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:57 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
i am skeptical. i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).echamberlin8 wrote:Question: On one of the other forums I heard that Harvard still has a policy that for JD/MBA dual-degree students, that once you got into HLS, that it made getting into HBS slightly easier. Does anyone know anything about this?
- echamberlin8
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:28 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Do you think working as a paralegal at a V25 firm would count as "high quality work experience"?englawyer wrote:i am skeptical. i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).echamberlin8 wrote:Question: On one of the other forums I heard that Harvard still has a policy that for JD/MBA dual-degree students, that once you got into HLS, that it made getting into HBS slightly easier. Does anyone know anything about this?
- ph14
- Posts: 3227
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:15 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Probably not.echamberlin8 wrote:Do you think working as a paralegal at a V25 firm would count as "high quality work experience"?englawyer wrote:i am skeptical. i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).echamberlin8 wrote:Question: On one of the other forums I heard that Harvard still has a policy that for JD/MBA dual-degree students, that once you got into HLS, that it made getting into HBS slightly easier. Does anyone know anything about this?
-
- Posts: 1710
- Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:01 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
HLS students can cross-register for MIT classes, but HLS JD/MIT MBA isn't listed as one of the official joint degrees, although apparently people have arranged for concurrent degrees with MIT in the past (not sure if Sloan specifically).echamberlin8 wrote:Not sure if I read your message properly, but is it true that you can get a HLS JD and a MIT MBA if one doesn't get into HBS?
Yeah, there is an important point to be made here. A boost is not an automatic admission. Being an HLS student counts significantly in your favor but doesn't guarantee that you'll get in.englawyer wrote:i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).
There are 88 editors of the law review....Syme wrote:PKozi wrote:FWIW, the current editor of the Law Review is a JD/MBA student.
Get unlimited access to all forums and topics
Register now!
I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...
Already a member? Login
- ph14
- Posts: 3227
- Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:15 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
I think we can safely assume he means editor-in-chief.tomwatts wrote:HLS students can cross-register for MIT classes, but HLS JD/MIT MBA isn't listed as one of the official joint degrees, although apparently people have arranged for concurrent degrees with MIT in the past (not sure if Sloan specifically).echamberlin8 wrote:Not sure if I read your message properly, but is it true that you can get a HLS JD and a MIT MBA if one doesn't get into HBS?Yeah, there is an important point to be made here. A boost is not an automatic admission. Being an HLS student counts significantly in your favor but doesn't guarantee that you'll get in.englawyer wrote:i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).There are 88 editors of the law review....Syme wrote:PKozi wrote:FWIW, the current editor of the Law Review is a JD/MBA student.
- englawyer
- Posts: 1271
- Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:57 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
+1 probably not, but worth the app. the MBA process is much more thorough though, so be prepared for a bigger time sink (i would start it this summer). MBA recs are a pain, as you will need a couple from your former supervisors at work, and I believe at least 3 overall so one prof.ph14 wrote:Probably not.echamberlin8 wrote:Do you think working as a paralegal at a V25 firm would count as "high quality work experience"?englawyer wrote:i am skeptical. i know at least a few people that applied as 1L's and were rejected. although you did qualify your statement as "slightly" so who knows? i have a feeling that they would probably still require 1-2 years of high quality work experience (so no K-JDs or starbucks baristas).echamberlin8 wrote:Question: On one of the other forums I heard that Harvard still has a policy that for JD/MBA dual-degree students, that once you got into HLS, that it made getting into HBS slightly easier. Does anyone know anything about this?
- echamberlin8
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:28 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Thanks for the tips, guys. My biggest issue with even thinking about the MBA is, like you guys said, that I don't have enough (or, more specifically, the right type of) work experience to qualify for admissions to a good B-school.
Other than the supervisor recommendations (I can't imagine this will take me any longer than academic recommendations will, since I've been out of college for about 3 years now...come to think of it, I need to think of professors to write me recommendations for law school), what else is a time-suck about the business school application in comparison to the law school one?
Thanks for the extremely helpful answers, guys!
Other than the supervisor recommendations (I can't imagine this will take me any longer than academic recommendations will, since I've been out of college for about 3 years now...come to think of it, I need to think of professors to write me recommendations for law school), what else is a time-suck about the business school application in comparison to the law school one?
Thanks for the extremely helpful answers, guys!
- englawyer
- Posts: 1271
- Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:57 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
#1) GMAT: need to study and take a whole other test. By the way, it costs like $200.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the tips, guys. My biggest issue with even thinking about the MBA is, like you guys said, that I don't have enough (or, more specifically, the right type of) work experience to qualify for admissions to a good B-school.
Other than the supervisor recommendations (I can't imagine this will take me any longer than academic recommendations will, since I've been out of college for about 3 years now...come to think of it, I need to think of professors to write me recommendations for law school), what else is a time-suck about the business school application in comparison to the law school one?
Thanks for the extremely helpful answers, guys!
#2) essays: rather than a single "personal statement" that is rather generic, each MBA school has like 4-5 of their own essay questions. and they are actually important! this will take a long time.
#3) resume: polish resume up (this is good for a 0L to do anyway though)
#4) interview prep: think about weaknesses in your app to address, get a suit, practice, research career paths, etc.
Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.
Register now, it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
-
- Posts: 669
- Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:40 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
No, I don't think it's worth it for biglaw. You learn everything on the job. As for non-legal exit options: Moving to consulting or i-banking after starting in biglaw is really difficult, and you shouldn't plan your degree around it. If you want to work at McKinsey, you're much better off summering there and starting after graduation than trying to transition from biglaw (not sure why you would do this anyways, since you would probably make less and work just as hard).echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks. Do you think it would be worth it if I think I'd eventually move away from BigLaw and into another industry? For instance, move onto a consulting firm or something equivalent after 3-4 years at BigLaw? Or is having a JD sufficient for firms like that?concurrent fork wrote:FWIW, it's pretty easy to cross-reg if you want to take some HBS/HKS classes. I'm not sure the JD/MBA is worth the investment if you plan to go into biglaw.echamberlin8 wrote:Thanks for the answer, Tom. If I got into HLS, which of course is a big reach, but still possible, it seems like it'd be hard to pass up the opportunity for the sterling reputation of a Harvard JD/MBA. Even though I'm aware it's not necessary for corporate law, or even necessary for transferring into post-BigLaw business opportunities outside of the legal field, it just seems like a great thing to have on one's resume. I'm also very interested in learning more about business.
Are you planning to go after the dual degree, Tom?
At the end of the day, you need to decide whether you want a career in law or consulting. It will be very difficult to have it both ways.
-
- Posts: 375
- Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:43 pm
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
Many thanks again to those of you who take time to do this. It has been very helpful.
I have another question for people who deferred before enrolling. After your deferral gets approved, does the Office of Admissions send out any kind of correspondence during the 1-2 years off to keep in contact with you and remind you what procedures need to be taken? All I've gotten so far is an email informing me that the deferral request is granted, no instructions or anything else. Also, did anyone attend multiple ASW's in separate years? If so, did you find it helpful/worth the time and expense to do so?
Thanks again
I have another question for people who deferred before enrolling. After your deferral gets approved, does the Office of Admissions send out any kind of correspondence during the 1-2 years off to keep in contact with you and remind you what procedures need to be taken? All I've gotten so far is an email informing me that the deferral request is granted, no instructions or anything else. Also, did anyone attend multiple ASW's in separate years? If so, did you find it helpful/worth the time and expense to do so?
Thanks again
- nixxers
- Posts: 393
- Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:47 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
They reminded me when I had to send in my like... I forget what it was called, but a form saying "Yes, I'm still coming." And then all the finaid info. You won't hear from them for a while, but you will eventually.Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Many thanks again to those of you who take time to do this. It has been very helpful.
I have another question for people who deferred before enrolling. After your deferral gets approved, does the Office of Admissions send out any kind of correspondence during the 1-2 years off to keep in contact with you and remind you what procedures need to be taken? All I've gotten so far is an email informing me that the deferral request is granted, no instructions or anything else. Also, did anyone attend multiple ASW's in separate years? If so, did you find it helpful/worth the time and expense to do so?
Thanks again
I didn't come to ASW during my deferral year (I had come the year before), but I don't really know what the point would have been unless I needed an excuse to come to Boston...
- nixxers
- Posts: 393
- Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:47 am
Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions
hey guys, I'm already here (lawl) but does anyone know when we get our spring grades? I've been having shameful gunnery stress dreams and it's only been a week
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login