This phenomenon continues to perplex me.Mista Bojangles wrote:lol. this. best brief encapsulation of HLS culture that i've seen on this boarddelusional wrote:There is this weird phenomenon where people pretend not to be working hard for some reason. Not sure what the point of it is. It's not intrusive or anything, but they'll just randomly make comments like, "I didn't do any of the readings until spring break", and then at some point it hits you that this is a total lie.
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I think the explanation is that everyone going into HLS is Type-A over-achievers who graduated at the top of college. After fall grades come in, 80% of HLS is not in the top 20% for the first time in their lives. Pretending that their performance was caused by not trying hard is a coping mechanism that allows everyone to delude themselves.despina wrote:This phenomenon continues to perplex me.Mista Bojangles wrote:lol. this. best brief encapsulation of HLS culture that i've seen on this boarddelusional wrote:There is this weird phenomenon where people pretend not to be working hard for some reason. Not sure what the point of it is. It's not intrusive or anything, but they'll just randomly make comments like, "I didn't do any of the readings until spring break", and then at some point it hits you that this is a total lie.
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Whatever response provided to my inquiry wouldn't have had any impact on such decision you mention. I was just curious.ph14 wrote:People do generally care less as 2Ls and especially 3Ls, I think. But it's rare to see true "slacking" that you might see in undergrad as a 1L, though i'm sure there are some people. In any event, I can't see how this would really change your decision to attend HLS or the way you proceed through law school at all.
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Acrossthelake, you seem to spend a whole lot of time here on TLS, how do you still manage your grades? (assuming you do manage your grades to a respectable standard)acrossthelake wrote:You find that phenomenon at competitive undergrads, as well. It's not unique to HLS.
Also, it isn't always a lie. Some people really do walk into exams with just an old outline and no real prep otherwise, but they're far more rare than most claim.
On a totally unrelated note, did (or still do) a lot of HLS guys hit on you on campus? Cuz I remember you saying that you look a lot like your profile pic. Do you respond by saying you have 500 pages to read over the weekend?
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But it starts before grades come out. I think it's really that people don't want to be seen as over-aggressive gunners, and they don't know how to be normal but try to pursue good grades at the same time. (Frankly, it's a hard thing to do.) So saying "I'm not trying that hard" is code for "I'm trying not to be overly freaked out and aggressive."englawyer wrote:I think the explanation is that everyone going into HLS is Type-A over-achievers who graduated at the top of college. After fall grades come in, 80% of HLS is not in the top 20% for the first time in their lives. Pretending that their performance was caused by not trying hard is a coping mechanism that allows everyone to delude themselves.
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Does anyone know anything about the professors teaching corporations in the Fall: Fried, Coates, Ramseyer or Kraakman?
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Or maybe people really didn't try that hard? I know I found law school extremely chill and fun. Few hours here and there; kept up with the readings for the most part, never stayed up late to study -- some people are just better at school and exams (this is not meant as a brag as you will find this ability is pretty useless in the real working world haha. I'd much rather have been able to develop a strong work ethic as that would serve me 10000x better throughout life).tomwatts wrote:But it starts before grades come out. I think it's really that people don't want to be seen as over-aggressive gunners, and they don't know how to be normal but try to pursue good grades at the same time. (Frankly, it's a hard thing to do.) So saying "I'm not trying that hard" is code for "I'm trying not to be overly freaked out and aggressive."englawyer wrote:I think the explanation is that everyone going into HLS is Type-A over-achievers who graduated at the top of college. After fall grades come in, 80% of HLS is not in the top 20% for the first time in their lives. Pretending that their performance was caused by not trying hard is a coping mechanism that allows everyone to delude themselves.
I mean I wasn't gunning for those DS's (I never got one in my whole HLS career lol), but I did well enough to graduate cum laude. I also probably gravitated toward people who are similar to me in their approach to school as most of my closest friends at HLS certainly did not study or stress about school any more than I did. I'm sure though that out of a class of 550 you can always find types of every color.
imo, however you approached/studied for ugrad or the LSAT or whatever, expect to kick it up a notch in law school. But you aren't going to be going from never studying in ugrad to pulling all-nighters or vice versa.
Oh, and as a final plug for TX law firms (customary DoubleChecks requirement), because I knew I wanted to return home to TX, and that TX law firms for the most part do not require exemplary grades out of HLS students, I found the whole law school grades -> law firm employment experience much more pleasant. Add in the bonus that TX firms hire 1Ls (which effectively means you secure a 2L summer offer before OCI even starts) and poof, watch that stress vanish
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10 shots whenever someone asks a financial aid question.acrossthelake wrote:I feel like you could turn this thread into a drinking game. Take a shot whenever DoubleChecks discusses Texas, tomwatts writes a verbose, but helpful long post, anybody asks acrossthelake a personal question or discusses her avatar, etc.
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We'd be drunk by page 142.ph14 wrote:10 shots whenever someone asks a financial aid question.acrossthelake wrote:I feel like you could turn this thread into a drinking game. Take a shot whenever DoubleChecks discusses Texas, tomwatts writes a verbose, but helpful long post, anybody asks acrossthelake a personal question or discusses her avatar, etc.
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We'd be 6 feet under by page 142.DoubleChecks wrote:We'd be drunk by page 142.ph14 wrote:10 shots whenever someone asks a financial aid question.acrossthelake wrote:I feel like you could turn this thread into a drinking game. Take a shot whenever DoubleChecks discusses Texas, tomwatts writes a verbose, but helpful long post, anybody asks acrossthelake a personal question or discusses her avatar, etc.
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But where should I look for housing and parking in Cambridge with my HBS sugar daddy if I have 2 H's and 3 LP's?
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despina wrote:But where should I look for housing and parking in Cambridge with my HBS sugar daddy if I have 2 H's and 3 LP's?
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Does anybody know if there is any rescheduling mechanism for two exams within twenty four hours?
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--LinkRemoved--lameslice57 wrote:Does anybody know if there is any rescheduling mechanism for two exams within twenty four hours?
Seems like you are out of luck.
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Hey ph14, any tips on the law review competition?
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Unfortunately, I'm not supposed to give any strategic advice in order to maintain a level playing field. You might consider attending the tips sessions, they are decently helpful.Lovely Ludwig Van wrote:Hey ph14, any tips on the law review competition?
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Hi,
I am interested in JD-MBA.
I got in as a K-JD (I am still doing my undergraduate school).
I was wondering if one who comes directly after undergrad could get into JD-MBA program if they apply at their 1L year.
Alternatively, I am thinking of 2+2 program but I am not prepared enough for GRE or GMAT and taking 2 extra years seems kind of overwhelming for me as of now.
Which do you think have more chances?
THANKS!!
I am interested in JD-MBA.
I got in as a K-JD (I am still doing my undergraduate school).
I was wondering if one who comes directly after undergrad could get into JD-MBA program if they apply at their 1L year.
Alternatively, I am thinking of 2+2 program but I am not prepared enough for GRE or GMAT and taking 2 extra years seems kind of overwhelming for me as of now.
Which do you think have more chances?
THANKS!!
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http://www.hbs.edu/mba/find-answers/Pages/default.aspxhwannabe1234 wrote:Hi,
I am interested in JD-MBA.
I got in as a K-JD (I am still doing my undergraduate school).
I was wondering if one who comes directly after undergrad could get into JD-MBA program if they apply at their 1L year.
Alternatively, I am thinking of 2+2 program but I am not prepared enough for GRE or GMAT and taking 2 extra years seems kind of overwhelming for me as of now.
Which do you think have more chances?
THANKS!!
What is the desired length of work experience you wish to see in candidates?
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Am I stupid for trying to save $150-200+ by crashing at a friend's place near Mass. College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences (45-60 minutes by public transport to HLS) for ASW?
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Don't you live in NY? I feel like commuting 45 mins is no problem after living in like Queens or Brooklyn or something.t-14orbust wrote:Am I stupid for trying to save $150-200+ by crashing at a friend's place near Mass. College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences (45-60 minutes by public transport to HLS) for ASW?
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CA lol. I'm more worried about the costs of getting back to his place to crash after being out drinking until midnight+.paglababa wrote:Don't you live in NY? I feel like commuting 45 mins is no problem after living in like Queens or Brooklyn or something.t-14orbust wrote:Am I stupid for trying to save $150-200+ by crashing at a friend's place near Mass. College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences (45-60 minutes by public transport to HLS) for ASW?
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While it's inconvenient via public transport, it's not far via taxi, so you'll be fine getting back.t-14orbust wrote:CA lol. I'm more worried about the costs of getting back to his place to crash after being out drinking until midnight+.paglababa wrote:Don't you live in NY? I feel like commuting 45 mins is no problem after living in like Queens or Brooklyn or something.t-14orbust wrote:Am I stupid for trying to save $150-200+ by crashing at a friend's place near Mass. College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences (45-60 minutes by public transport to HLS) for ASW?
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