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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:00 pm

Canof09 wrote:You have all successfully convinced me that 0L prep is just the worst. But does anybody have strong feelings one way or the other about Getting To Maybe? I don't mind spending the time reading it, but I would obviously prefer to pass if it isn't all that helpful.

Also, I just now read the IT memorandum that they sent us about a month ago. I have an Intel i5 processor and I got the impression that I am on the low end of things in terms of computer specs. They recommended an i7. Am I good here?

Muchos gracias.


I read about three pages of GTM, other people seem to like it though.

i5 is fine. I mostly worked on my desktop which was pretty overkill for lawl school. When I did use a laptop it was an i5. Also not all i7 are better than i5, depends on clock speed, chipset, etc. I wouldn't worry about it unless your computer is running noticeably slowly.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:42 pm

I would highly recommend that all of you spend time before school updating your resumes. Way easier to do before school starts. That way you can send it in to career services or older law students you trust to have it ready to go by December first.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby midwest17 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:46 pm

Is there any specific format to use, or just general resume style? I know some schools have stricter guidelines but I haven't seen any for UChi?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:53 pm

You can probably email OCS if you want to be a gunner. They can probably give you some examples. You get a handbook once you get to school with them. Just keep it simple and consistent formatting. I just have:

Name and info:

Education:

Experience:

Interests: (one line or a few normal things)

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Rahviveh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:16 pm

midwest17 wrote:Is there any specific format to use, or just general resume style? I know some schools have stricter guidelines but I haven't seen any for UChi?


I liked to use the samples here

http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/care ... sumes.html

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby DontStopBeliebin » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:53 pm

^ I'd personally recommend a format like page 2 of the 1L Resume pack linked above.

Also (and I'll re-make the offer closer to fall exams) if any incoming 1Ls want editing help with their resume now, just PM me.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby elterrible78 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:54 pm

beepboopbeep wrote:
Canof09 wrote:You have all successfully convinced me that 0L prep is just the worst. But does anybody have strong feelings one way or the other about Getting To Maybe? I don't mind spending the time reading it, but I would obviously prefer to pass if it isn't all that helpful.

Also, I just now read the IT memorandum that they sent us about a month ago. I have an Intel i5 processor and I got the impression that I am on the low end of things in terms of computer specs. They recommended an i7. Am I good here?

Muchos gracias.


I read about three pages of GTM, other people seem to like it though.



I probably read 60 pages of GTM, which in reality was like reading the first 3 pages 20 times, so good on Beep for figuring that out 95% quicker than I did. I don't think it helped me much outside of instilling the idea that there's no right answer, it's good to argue both sides, etc.

Everyone who has commented on this so far is someone who is definitely worth paying attention to, also.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Crowing » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:21 am

beepboopbeep wrote:
Canof09 wrote:You have all successfully convinced me that 0L prep is just the worst. But does anybody have strong feelings one way or the other about Getting To Maybe? I don't mind spending the time reading it, but I would obviously prefer to pass if it isn't all that helpful.

Also, I just now read the IT memorandum that they sent us about a month ago. I have an Intel i5 processor and I got the impression that I am on the low end of things in terms of computer specs. They recommended an i7. Am I good here?

Muchos gracias.


I read about three pages of GTM, other people seem to like it though.

i5 is fine. I mostly worked on my desktop which was pretty overkill for lawl school. When I did use a laptop it was an i5. Also not all i7 are better than i5, depends on clock speed, chipset, etc. I wouldn't worry about it unless your computer is running noticeably slowly.


I also read like nothing of it, felt it was pretty meh, and never went back.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Snuffles1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:39 pm

I'm seconding all the skepticism about GTM, as well as the support for resume prep before school starts. Another thing I'd suggest if you're really hurting for something to do is to poke around and see which firms have formal 1L SA programs (mostly, but by no means entirely, these are diversity related), and which firms have hired more than one 1L in the last year.* Chambers Associate is good for the latter, the LCLD's website is good (but not exhaustive) for the former. I made a list of these firms and when it came to December 1 it was much easier to just go straight to their websites, find contact info to paste into my cover letters (which I also prepared before school started because, let's face it, you've got nothing new to add after one quarter) and send those apps out asap. Although clearly the time saved for studying didn't do me much good that quarter. :wink:

*If a firm hired like 65 2Ls but only one 1L over all its offices, and it doesn't have a formal diversity program, that 1L likely *was* a special snowflake.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby DontStopBeliebin » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:20 pm

Snuffles1 wrote: ...


+1

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Robb » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:05 pm

Snuffles1 wrote:I'm seconding all the skepticism about GTM, as well as the support for resume prep before school starts. Another thing I'd suggest if you're really hurting for something to do is to poke around and see which firms have formal 1L SA programs (mostly, but by no means entirely, these are diversity related), and which firms have hired more than one 1L in the last year.* Chambers Associate is good for the latter, the LCLD's website is good (but not exhaustive) for the former. I made a list of these firms and when it came to December 1 it was much easier to just go straight to their websites, find contact info to paste into my cover letters (which I also prepared before school started because, let's face it, you've got nothing new to add after one quarter) and send those apps out asap. Although clearly the time saved for studying didn't do me much good that quarter. :wink:

*If a firm hired like 65 2Ls but only one 1L over all its offices, and it doesn't have a formal diversity program, that 1L likely *was* a special snowflake.

The information about 1L hiring is also super easy to get off of NALP. You can then create a separate report with recruiter contact information by clicking the mail merge button at the top. The data hasn't been updated for Summer 2014 yet, but here are firms listed by most expected 1L hires for 2014 for firms hiring more than one (notice that the ones at the top say things like "Firmwide" or "Combined", so those aren't actually offices, but what the firm hires in all its offices):

Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough LLP, Firmwide 28
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Multi-Office Form 27
Vinson & Elkins LLP, Firmwide 24
Husch Blackwell, Firmwide 15
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, US Multi-office Form 15
Hogan Lovells US LLP, All US Offices Combined 13
Paul Weiss Rifkind Wharton & Garrison LLP, New York, New York 13
Vinson & Elkins LLP, Houston, Texas 13
Baker Botts L.L.P., Houston, Texas 12
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, New York, New York 12
Baker Botts L.L.P., Dallas, Texas 10
Foley & Lardner LLP, Foley & Lardner LLP 9
Morrison & Foerster LLP, San Francisco, California 9
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP, Orrick - Multi-Office 9
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, Multi-Office Form 9
Bracewell & Giuliani LLP, Houston, Texas 8
Locke Lord LLP, Houston, Texas 8
Baker, Donelson, Bearman, Caldwell & Berkowitz, PC, Baker Donelson 7
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP, Collective Form 7
Hogan Lovells US LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 7
Vinson & Elkins LLP, Dallas, Texas 7
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, New York, New York 7
Dinsmore & Shohl, Dinsmore & Shohl 6
Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP, Firmwide 6
Nixon Peabody LLP, Firmwide 6
Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP, Multi-Office 6
Stites & Harbison PLLC, Multi-Office Form 6
Stoll Keenon Ogden PLLC, Firmwide 6
Carlton Fields Jorden Burt, P.A., Carlton Fields Jorden Burt - Firmwide 5
Davis Wright Tremaine LLP, Davis Wright Tremaine LLP - Firmwide Info 5
Dorsey & Whitney LLP, Minneapolis, Minnesota 5
Fenwick & West LLP, Silicon Valley, California 5
Marshall, Gerstein & Borun LLP, Chicago, Illinois 5
Merchant & Gould, Firmwide 5
Paul Hastings LLP, Firmwide 5
Scott, Douglass & McConnico, L.L.P., Austin, Texas 5
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, Palo Alto, California 5
Andrews Kurth LLP, Houston, Texas 4
Baker & McKenzie, Dallas, Texas 4
Baker Botts L.L.P., Palo Alto, California 4
Bass, Berry & Sims PLC, Firm Wide 4
Brooks, Pierce, McLendon, Humphrey & Leonard, LLP, Raleigh, North Carolina 4
Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, Multi-Office 4
Faegre Baker Daniels LLP, Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
Graves Dougherty Hearon & Moody, P. C., Austin, Texas 4
Husch Blackwell, Kansas City, Missouri 4
Lathrop & Gage LLP, multi 4
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh, L.C., St. Louis 4
Locke Lord LLP, Dallas, Texas 4
LOWENSTEIN SANDLER LLP, Firmwide 4
Merchant & Gould, Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
Morris, Nichols, Arsht & Tunnell LLP, Wilmington, Delaware 4
Morrison & Foerster LLP, Palo Alto, California 4
Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP 4
Pepper Hamilton LLP, Firmwide 4
Reed Smith LLP, Firmwide 4
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P., Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
Rothwell, Figg, Ernst & Manbeck, P.C., Washington, District Of Columbia 4
Shook, Hardy & Bacon L.L.P., Kansas City, Missouri 4
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Chicago, Illinois 4
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 4
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, NY, New York 4
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, Dallas, Texas 4
Winston & Strawn LLP, Winston & Strawn LLP Firmwide 4
Ballard Spahr LLP, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3
Barrasso Usdin Kupperman Freeman & Sarver, L.L.C., New Orleans, Louisiana 3
Blank Rome LLP, Blank Rome LLP Multi-Office Form 3
Briggs and Morgan, P.A., Minneapolis and St. Paul, MN 3
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP, Firmwide 3
Choate, Hall & Stewart LLP, Boston, Massachusetts 3
Cooley LLP, firmwide 3
Faegre Baker Daniels LLP, Indianapolis, Indiana 3
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, Boston, Massachusetts 3
Foley & Lardner LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 3
Fredrikson & Byron, P.A., Fredrikson & Byron, P.A. 3
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP, NEW YORK, New York 3
Hiscock & Barclay, LLP, Hiscock & Barclay, LLP 3
Irell & Manella LLP, Firmwide 3
Jones Day, Houston, Texas 3
K&L Gates LLP, Dallas, Texas 3
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 3
Locke Lord LLP, Austin, Texas 3
McAndrews, Held & Malloy, Ltd., Chicago, Illinois 3
McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP, Atlanta, Georgia 3
McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP, Firmwide Collective Form 3
Michael Best & Friedrich LLP, FIRM 3
Miller & Martin, PLLC, Chattanooga, Tennessee 3
Morrison & Foerster LLP, Tokyo, Japan 3
Pepper Hamilton LLP, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P., Los Angeles, California 3
Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP, Toledo, Ohio 3
Stinson Leonard Street LLP, Firm-wide 3
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, Firmwide 3
Thompson Coburn LLP, St. Louis, Missouri 3
Warner Norcross & Judd LLP, WARNER NORCROSS & JUDD 3
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, Redwood Shores, California 3
Winston & Strawn LLP, Chicago, Illinois 3
Wyatt, Tarrant & Combs, LLP, Multi-Office Form 3
Alston & Bird LLP, Atlanta, Georgia 2
Andrews Kurth LLP, Dallas, Texas 2
Baker & Hostetler LLP, Cleveland, Ohio 2
Baker & Hostetler LLP, Philadephia, Pennsylvania 2
Bingham Greenebaum Doll LLP, Bingham Greenebaum Doll LLP Multi-Office Form 2
Bracewell & Giuliani LLP, Dallas, Texas 2
Bricker & Eckler LLP, Bricker & Eckler LLP 2
Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, LLP, Firmwide 2
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP, New York, New York 2
Chadbourne & Parke, 2014 NALP Form 2
Crowell & Moring LLP, New York, New York 2
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP, New York, New York 2
Dechert LLP, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 2
Dickinson Wright PLLC, Firmwide 2
Fennemore Craig, Phoenix, AZ 2
Foley & Lardner LLP, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 2
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer, Freshfields US 2
Godfrey & Kahn, S.C., Firmwide 2
Gray Plant Mooty, Minneapolis, Minnesota 2
Greensfelder, Hemker & Gale, P.C., St. Louis, Missouri 2
Harter Secrest & Emery LLP, 2013 NALP Form 2
Hinckley Allen, Hinckley Allen 2
Hogan Lovells US LLP, Baltimore, Maryland 2
Husch Blackwell, Austin, Texas 2
Husch Blackwell, Chattanooga, Tennessee 2
Husch Blackwell, St. Louis, Missouri 2
Hutchinson Black and Cook, LLC, Boulder, Colorado 2
Ice Miller LLP, Indianapolis, Indiana 2
IVINS, PHILLIPS & BARKER, Firmwide 2
Jones Day, Chicago, Illinois 2
Jones Day, Dallas, Texas 2
Jones Day, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 2
K&L Gates LLP, Charlotte, North Carolina 2
K&L Gates LLP, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 2
K&L Gates LLP, Seattle, Washington 2
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP, Charlotte, North Carolina 2
Kirkland & Ellis LLP, Los Angeles, California 2
Klee, Tuchin, Bogdanoff & Stern LLP, Los Angeles, California 2
Lindquist & Vennum LLP, Minneapolis, Minnesota 2
Mayer Brown LLP, Houston, Texas 2
McDermott Will & Emery, Multi-Office Form 2
MILES & STOCKBRIDGE PC, Baltimore, MD 2
Morrison & Foerster LLP, New York, New York 2
Morrison & Foerster LLP, San Diego, California 2
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP, Irvine, California 2
Paul Hastings LLP, Palo Alto, California 2
Polsinelli, Polsinelli - Multi-Office 2
Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP 2
Proskauer Rose LLP, New York, New York 2
Quarles & Brady, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 2
Quarles & Brady, Phoenix, Arizona 2
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, New York, New York 2
Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan - Firmwide 2
Shipman & Goodwin LLP, Hartford, Connecticut 2
Shipman & Goodwin LLP, Shipman & Goodwin LLP - All Offices 2
Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP, Charlotte, North Carolina 2
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Los Angeles, California 2
Stearns Weaver Miller Weissler Alhadeff & Sitterson, P.A., Multi-Office 2
Vinson & Elkins LLP, Austin, Texas 2
Vinson & Elkins LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 2
Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, Washington, District Of Columbia 2
Wolf Greenfield, Firmwide 2
Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor LLP, Wilmington, Delaware 2

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby random number » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:36 am

Robb wrote:The information about 1L hiring is also super easy to get off of NALP. You can then create a separate report with recruiter contact information by clicking the mail merge button at the top. The data hasn't been updated for Summer 2014 yet, but here are firms listed by most expected 1L hires for 2014 for firms hiring more than one (notice that the ones at the top say things like "Firmwide" or "Combined", so those aren't actually offices, but what the firm hires in all its offices):


Thanks so much - really helpful!

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby JuniperCreekEsq » Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:25 pm

If I bid a clinic at #1, am I "doing it wrong"? Grateful for any tips as I'm sure my fellow transfer classmates are as well.

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JuniperCreekEsq wrote:If I bid a clinic at #1, am I "doing it wrong"? Grateful for any tips as I'm sure my fellow transfer classmates are as well.

Which clinic?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby WheninLaw » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:38 pm

JuniperCreekEsq wrote:If I bid a clinic at #1, am I "doing it wrong"? Grateful for any tips as I'm sure my fellow transfer classmates are as well.


You don't need to bid a clinic #1 to get it (generally).

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Crowing » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:55 pm

JuniperCreekEsq wrote:If I bid a clinic at #1, am I "doing it wrong"? Grateful for any tips as I'm sure my fellow transfer classmates are as well.


It looks like most of them are actually open sign up.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby JuniperCreekEsq » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:01 pm

Thanks, all.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby badaboom61 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:41 am

WheninLaw wrote:
JuniperCreekEsq wrote:If I bid a clinic at #1, am I "doing it wrong"? Grateful for any tips as I'm sure my fellow transfer classmates are as well.


You don't need to bid a clinic #1 to get it (generally).


I think federal defense always fills up really fast. Some years corporate lab goes very quickly. But yes, most have plenty of open seats.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby lawschool2014hopeful » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:53 pm

Anyone got recommendations for good stores/websites to buy laptops off? I am looking to buy windows.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Neal Patrick Harris » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:56 pm

lawschool2014hopeful wrote:Anyone got recommendations for good stores/websites to buy laptops off? I am looking to buy windows.


what're you looking for? my answer depends a lot on that :D

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby lawschool2014hopeful » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:57 pm

Neal Patrick Harris wrote:
lawschool2014hopeful wrote:Anyone got recommendations for good stores/websites to buy laptops off? I am looking to buy windows.


what're you looking for? my answer depends a lot on that :D


Something to carry to school to write notes/do basic presentation stuff/exam. I dont need it to be fancy. I will have a desktop at home for heavy duty things. I would appreciate a good battery life and lightness.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Rahviveh » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:09 am

lawschool2014hopeful wrote:
Neal Patrick Harris wrote:
lawschool2014hopeful wrote:Anyone got recommendations for good stores/websites to buy laptops off? I am looking to buy windows.


what're you looking for? my answer depends a lot on that :D


Something to carry to school to write notes/do basic presentation stuff/exam. I dont need it to be fancy. I will have a desktop at home for heavy duty things. I would appreciate a good battery life and lightness.

If you have the budget you should consider the macbook air. That is still the market leader for weight and battery life. None of the windows computers come close

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby DontStopBeliebin » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:19 am

If you have a Windows system at home, what worked well for me for a bit was an iPad with a keyboard cover, because I did everything in OneNote. I don't think Macbooks have a full version of OneNote available yet, but there's an official iOS app for it. So I'd put anything I needed for class in OneNote at home, then be able to access it in class on the iPad + take notes as necessary, and it was really lightweight to bring.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:21 am

Macs have full use of one note.




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