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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 20141023 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:34 pm

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:51 pm

Someone has to end up on the bottom of the curve, seems like a lovely excuse to put people there and not feel guilty about it. That's probably why I never will be a teacher.

Also re: elements I had Stone and learned literally nothing.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Xifeng » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:46 pm

2014 wrote:Also re: elements I had Stone and learned literally nothing.


Uh you learned about the glory of The Illustrious Geof Stone, isn't that enough??

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:48 pm

Geoff Stone wrote:Oh is there more than three people in the room? That means I need to give a speech on the Due Process clause.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:27 am

Xifeng wrote:
2014 wrote:Also re: elements I had Stone and learned literally nothing.


Uh you learned about the glory of The Illustrious Geof Stone, isn't that enough??


Huh, I had a good opinion of him after talking to him one-on-one. Is he that bad in other settings?

TBF if I were on the president's NSA review panel, I'd be full of myself too.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Xifeng » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:22 pm

beepboopbeep wrote:
Xifeng wrote:
2014 wrote:Also re: elements I had Stone and learned literally nothing.


Uh you learned about the glory of The Illustrious Geof Stone, isn't that enough??


Huh, I had a good opinion of him after talking to him one-on-one. Is he that bad in other settings?

TBF if I were on the president's NSA review panel, I'd be full of myself too.


I had Elements with him and really liked it/him. Basically, he's full of himself, but it's 100% earned. I highly recommend taking Freedom of Speech with him. I'm still mad he and Strauss switched con laws this year.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:22 pm

Xifeng wrote:
2014 wrote:Also re: elements I had Stone and learned literally nothing.


Uh you learned about the glory of The Illustrious Geof Stone, isn't that enough??

Did you know he clerked for Brennan?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby drawstring » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:39 pm

Anyone care to share their experiences negotiating their scholarship offer?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:27 pm

drawstring wrote:Anyone care to share their experiences negotiating their scholarship offer?

PM'ed.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:02 am

drawstring wrote:Anyone care to share their experiences negotiating their scholarship offer?

I had no other offers from any schools and no acceptances from any schools higher on the USNWR train and managed to up my offer so they are bad at negotiating in a favorable way to you.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby drawstring » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:46 am

2014 wrote:
drawstring wrote:Anyone care to share their experiences negotiating their scholarship offer?

I had no other offers from any schools and no acceptances from any schools higher on the USNWR train and managed to up my offer so they are bad at negotiating in a favorable way to you.


Good to hear!

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby lawschool2014hopeful » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:05 pm

Finally sift through the entire 110 pages of this thread. Thanks alot for the information.

I do have a random question, through my understanding with talking to other graduate students (i.e., med), it seems like orientation week/first couple of months of school, alot of the single people end up together? Is that true in uChicago or law in general? Do people tend to date within the law school?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby skers » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:37 pm

lawschool2014hopeful wrote:Finally sift through the entire 110 pages of this thread. Thanks alot for the information.

I do have a random question, through my understanding with talking to other graduate students (i.e., med), it seems like orientation week/first couple of months of school, alot of the single people end up together? Is that true in uChicago or law in general? Do people tend to date within the law school?


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but yes, you too could end up with a law student.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby WheninLaw » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:44 pm

lawschool2014hopeful wrote:Finally sift through the entire 110 pages of this thread. Thanks alot for the information.

I do have a random question, through my understanding with talking to other graduate students (i.e., med), it seems like orientation week/first couple of months of school, alot of the single people end up together? Is that true in uChicago or law in general? Do people tend to date within the law school?


They do, for two reasons. First, you spend 95% of your time with other law students. Second, you will get wasted on Thursdays at Bar Review and make good or bad choices with other law students.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby dm1919 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:41 pm

Can someone please PM me to discuss how they went about negotiating merit aid with Chicago? This is my first post on TLS. Thank you.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:47 pm

dm1919 wrote:Can someone please PM me to discuss how they went about negotiating merit aid with Chicago? This is my first post on TLS. Thank you.


I'll pm you but I'd rather post here for everyone to see. It's really not a super difficult process, and you can feel free to be honest with the admissions office, of course with a little shading one way or the other. Tell them your other offers and that you are very hesitant to make such a large financial commitment and whether they can reconsider your merit offer. I have a feeling they low ball you the first time anyway. I submitted a request to increase my scholarship offer and they bumped it up a few weeks later. There wasn't any correspondence back and forth, they just let me know that it was increased.

In terms of what your numbers are, I would say you are in a better position if you have both numbers above median, or one above the 75th, but that it's still very possible to increase your scholarship without that. Also a large scholarship from CN or Full Ride from lower t14 > scholarship to lower t14 > full ride t20.

An acceptance to HYS is probably also a good leverage position, but I'm not exactly sure where that ranks since an acceptance to HYS means you probably already have the aforementioned stats.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby elterrible78 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:22 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
dm1919 wrote:Can someone please PM me to discuss how they went about negotiating merit aid with Chicago? This is my first post on TLS. Thank you.


I'll pm you but I'd rather post here for everyone to see. It's really not a super difficult process, and you can feel free to be honest with the admissions office, of course with a little shading one way or the other. Tell them your other offers and that you are very hesitant to make such a large financial commitment and whether they can reconsider your merit offer. I have a feeling they low ball you the first time anyway. I submitted a request to increase my scholarship offer and they bumped it up a few weeks later. There wasn't any correspondence back and forth, they just let me know that it was increased.

In terms of what your numbers are, I would say you are in a better position if you have both numbers above median, or one above the 75th, but that it's still very possible to increase your scholarship without that. Also a large scholarship from CN or Full Ride from lower t14 > scholarship to lower t14 > full ride t20.

An acceptance to HYS is probably also a good leverage position, but I'm not exactly sure where that ranks since an acceptance to HYS means you probably already have the aforementioned stats.


+1. Worked for me.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Crowing » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:50 pm

They wouldn't negotiate with me but that's probs because they regretted admitting me in the first place. They might have offered me more money to withdraw.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby WhiteyCakes » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:38 pm

Crowing wrote:They wouldn't negotiate with me but that's probs because they regretted admitting me in the first place. They might have offered me more money to withdraw.


We all regret that particular oversight Crow

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby kathj06 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:20 pm

Would you recommend Chicago to someone interested in public service/public interest? I currently work for federal gov and want to do the same after law school, and am very impressed w/ Chi's revamped LRAP. It seems as though very few students go into public service/govt right after graduation, relative to some other top schools, so I was wondering about the level of institutional support for non-Biglaw jobs.

Thanks!

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Crowing » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:23 am

WhiteyCakes wrote:
Crowing wrote:They wouldn't negotiate with me but that's probs because they regretted admitting me in the first place. They might have offered me more money to withdraw.


We all regret that particular oversight Crow


Rude.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 20141023 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:12 am

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:30 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:12 am


Yup, checks out.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:51 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Ugh... I miss the good ol' days of undergrad when studying for like 10 hours was enough to do well on a final exam. :cry:

You could study for Levmore's test in less than 10 hours for sure.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby gchatbrah » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:03 am

2014 wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Ugh... I miss the good ol' days of undergrad when studying for like 10 hours was enough to do well on a final exam. :cry:

You could study for Levmore's test in less than 10 hours for sure.


+1. Levmore's part of the class did wonders for my allocation of limited study time.




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