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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:46 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
jdom wrote:Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions in this thread, it's been really helpful for me.

I was planning on visiting the school on March 28th to take a student-led tour and visit a class. Is this a good time to visit considering it's the day after you all get back from spring break? Generally, the first class meeting for me has always been "Here's the syllabus, read this for next time, ktybai". I have no clue if this is how it works in law school - maybe you all have reading due for the first class.

Which of these classes/profs would you all recommend to visit?: Civil Procedure II - 02 - D. Wood, Development of Legal Institutions - R. Helmholz, Jurisprudence I: Theories of Law and Adjudication - B. Leiter

Also, any food/shops you would recommend checking out?

Thanks a bunch!

Diane Wood is a federal COA judge so she is sort of a big deal.

the new Chief Judge, apparently

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:04 pm

I'd probably suggest Helmholz over Wood if you were going to sit in on one. Subject wise, neither is a great one to sit in on unfortunately, but you are more likely to have something memorable happen in the Helmholz one.

If you are looking for somewhere to eat in Hyde Park do Medici on 57th, if you are venturing north, defer to Yelp there are like 500 places worth going.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby jdom » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:26 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
jdom wrote:Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions in this thread, it's been really helpful for me.

I was planning on visiting the school on March 28th to take a student-led tour and visit a class. Is this a good time to visit considering it's the day after you all get back from spring break? Generally, the first class meeting for me has always been "Here's the syllabus, read this for next time, ktybai". I have no clue if this is how it works in law school - maybe you all have reading due for the first class.

Which of these classes/profs would you all recommend to visit?: Civil Procedure II - 02 - D. Wood, Development of Legal Institutions - R. Helmholz, Jurisprudence I: Theories of Law and Adjudication - B. Leiter

Also, any food/shops you would recommend checking out?

Thanks a bunch!


Nah we still get in to substantive legal stuff on the first day, so you'll be fine. March might still have a little bite of winter in the air so it will be good to realistically assess how you like the weather.

I think Brian Leiter is an idiot but I've heard he is a fine professor. I would still suggest Wood or Helmholz. Helmholz is a fucking titan of property law and likes to make fun of students pretty regularly. So he might be the closest thing to a paper chase type professor we have. Diane Wood is a federal COA judge so she is sort of a big deal. The problem with civ pro II is that you might not have any fucking clue what is going on in the class since Civil Procedure is foreign to non-lawyers, but it's the first day so maybe not. If you can find a class Saul Levmore is teaching I would go to that one bar none, though.

And do you mean shops around Hyde Park or shops anywhere?


I didn't see anything with Levmore. I threw in Leiter's class because I've had a few classes on legal theory in undergrad and thought maybe I might have a little clue what the heck is going on in the class. I certainly don't plan on participating in the class, but it would nice for the lecture to not be in a foreign language. I've read about Helmholz a bit in this thread and it seems his class would be quite..interesting. Thanks though, I'll probably check out either Wood or Helmholz.

Any place you think is a must eat/visit in Hyde Park. I'm planning on spending another day playing around in Chicago.

2014 wrote:I'd probably suggest Helmholz over Wood if you were going to sit in on one. Subject wise, neither is a great one to sit in on unfortunately, but you are more likely to have something memorable happen in the Helmholz one.

If you are looking for somewhere to eat in Hyde Park do Medici on 57th, if you are venturing north, defer to Yelp there are like 500 places worth going.


Good point. I'll probably try and sit in on his class.

Thanks for the rec, looks pretty amazing from the website.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:29 pm

We just got a Chipotle in Hyde Park so that's a must-visit for me. But Medici is probably TCR. Their milkshakes are good.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 20141023 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:36 pm

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:05 pm

You're right. I understated how good those damn shakes are.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby elterrible78 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:11 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:You're right. I understated how good those damn shakes are.


They're good enough that I would drink them 3 meals a day if it were socially acceptable.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 20141023 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:40 pm

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:47 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
elterrible78 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:You're right. I understated how good those damn shakes are.

They're good enough that I would drink them 3 meals a day if it were socially acceptable.
:lol:

They're good enough that I'd drink them at breakfast with Professor Levmore on a cold winter morning even if it subjected me to ridicule.


I was actually at breakfast Friday and he was there with some gunners. Who would go to breakfast with a prof on a Friday? I would have to get a chocolate croissant or milkshake to stand that breakfast. I overheard some of the convo and he was super combative. I would get annoyed in person even though I generally enjoyed his trolling efforts in class.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:54 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:
elterrible78 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:You're right. I understated how good those damn shakes are.

They're good enough that I would drink them 3 meals a day if it were socially acceptable.
:lol:

They're good enough that I'd drink them at breakfast with Professor Levmore on a cold winter morning even if it subjected me to ridicule.


I was actually at breakfast Friday and he was there with some gunners. Who would go to breakfast with a prof on a Friday? I would have to get a chocolate croissant or milkshake to stand that breakfast. I overheard some of the convo and he was super combative. I would get annoyed in person even though I generally enjoyed his trolling efforts in class.


Huh, our breakfast with Levmore last quarter was pretty great. Or so I thought, but apparently others in my group didn't like it as much. He wasn't at all like Professor Levmore in that scenario.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:07 pm

Yeah maybe he was cool I didn't hear the whole thing. Likbrary seasions are just so terrible. I think Sheri Lewis is a wonderful person but I'm nodding off after two minutes of her lectures.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:16 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Yeah maybe he was cool I didn't hear the whole thing. Likbrary seasions are just so terrible. I think Sheri Lewis is a wonderful person but I'm nodding off after two minutes of her lectures.


Yea I play pokemon during those.

Only redeeming quality of LRW is how we never have class. I was making a list of which classes were cancelled for the rest of the term and realized that the list of classes NOT cancelled was actually about half as long.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:56 pm

Levmore insists people get the shakes in my experience, doesn't matter what time, season or meal lol. Despite that I have never heard of him ordering one himself.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Xifeng » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 am

2014 wrote:Levmore insists people get the shakes in my experience, doesn't matter what time, season or meal lol. Despite that I have never heard of him ordering one himself.


He didn't insist our year, we had just normal breakfast foods. And he was very Levmore-y.

Also, I'd go see Wood, because then you can say you saw an awesome judge teaching.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Samsing » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:20 pm

Hey guys I have a random question. How is the maintenance at Regents and other apartments in the area? Do they get around to things pretty quickly when you report them?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:02 pm

Regents got to everything I requested within 24 hours, all of which was pretty low-priority. Can't speak to other buildings, especially those w/o doormen and a full time maintenance staff.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:40 pm

2014 wrote:Regents got to everything I requested within 24 hours, all of which was pretty low-priority. Can't speak to other buildings, especially those w/o doormen and a full time maintenance staff.


Yea, I've had the same experience in Scholar's Corner, which has the dorkiest name but is otherwise a great building.

The only companies I know of as having bad reputations re: maintenance are:

-MAC Property Management, which had a pretty horrendous reputation while I was in undergrad, but apparently has improved (or just isn't as bad about it in its buildings with doormen/staff)

-McKey & Poague, which is a midsize independent agency. I lived in one of their buildings that was not well maintained at all. One thing, which admittedly was somewhat minor but was promised to be repaired before move-in, didn't get fixed until after I had moved out. On the plus side the apartment was dirt cheap.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby bobr » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:36 pm

Sorry to intrude on the UChicago forum, but I have a quick favor to ask.

I am currently a 1L at Columbia and have Harcourt for Criminal Law. Is there any chance anyone on here had him and would be willing to share any notes and/or outline for his class? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:46 pm

bobr wrote:Sorry to intrude on the UChicago forum, but I have a quick favor to ask.

I am currently a 1L at Columbia and have Harcourt for Criminal Law. Is there any chance anyone on here had him and would be willing to share any notes and/or outline for his class? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much in advance.

All I can say is I'm sorry.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Crowing » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:40 pm

2014 wrote:
bobr wrote:Sorry to intrude on the UChicago forum, but I have a quick favor to ask.

I am currently a 1L at Columbia and have Harcourt for Criminal Law. Is there any chance anyone on here had him and would be willing to share any notes and/or outline for his class? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much in advance.

All I can say is I'm sorry.


Has Helmholtz ever been a visiting prof

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:41 pm

2014 wrote:
bobr wrote:Sorry to intrude on the UChicago forum, but I have a quick favor to ask.

I am currently a 1L at Columbia and have Harcourt for Criminal Law. Is there any chance anyone on here had him and would be willing to share any notes and/or outline for his class? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much in advance.

All I can say is I'm sorry.


lol. I used to work with his wife. Is he that bad?

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby 2014 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:45 pm

Crowing wrote:
2014 wrote:
bobr wrote:Sorry to intrude on the UChicago forum, but I have a quick favor to ask.

I am currently a 1L at Columbia and have Harcourt for Criminal Law. Is there any chance anyone on here had him and would be willing to share any notes and/or outline for his class? I would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much in advance.

All I can say is I'm sorry.


Has Helmholtz ever been a visiting prof

I have a feeling that Helmholz hasn't left the 1 mile radius around his house in thirty years. That encompasses the law school, Medici, and treasure island so he's set.


re: Harcourt - Depends how you feel about theory. You don't really learn much criminal law at all, it's entirely what like Bentham and co think about criminal law issues which I and most of my classmates found pretty boring and obnoxious. He lost control of class participation and was painfully disorganized too. To his core though I think he was one of the nicest people here, that just doesn't get you far teaching.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:48 pm

The bar review email is 180. I lol'ed in the library.

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Re: UChi Current Students Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:40 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:The bar review email is 180. I lol'ed in the library.


Definitely an improvement over the "go kill yourself" one.




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