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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby elterrible78 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:16 am

LSRAT wrote:Hey y'all! Any opinions about 53rd/cottage grove area? Would you advise/advise against living in that area?


TL;DR answer: Depends on how skittish you are and your risk tolerance.

If you've read through this thread, you've probably seen that the rough delimiters of the "ok" area are 47th to the north, Cottage Grove to the west, and 61st to the south. The closer you are to any of those boundaries, the rougher the feel of the place is going to be, with the exception of 61st. Close to the corners, especially. Go beyond them (including south of 61st), and things get palpably more sketchy pretty quickly. That's not hyperbole.

That said, I lived a couple blocks outside the traditional "green zone" and was completely fine. A couple blocks further and even I'd have been a bit nervous, and I don't spook easily at all. Your mileage may vary, though, and I'm sure 90% of my classmates would have been pretty uncomfortable living where I did. I reckon that's a combination of legitimate concern and a generalized fear, whether acknowledged or not, of minorities from lower socioeconomic classes.

I think 53d and Cottage Grove is ok, provided you're at or to the east of Cottage Grove. Without knowing you, I wouldn't advise going west of CG though. Feel free to PM if you want to discuss further.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:54 am

elterrible78 wrote:
LSRAT wrote:Hey y'all! Any opinions about 53rd/cottage grove area? Would you advise/advise against living in that area?


TL;DR answer: Depends on how skittish you are and your risk tolerance.

If you've read through this thread, you've probably seen that the rough delimiters of the "ok" area are 47th to the north, Cottage Grove to the west, and 61st to the south. The closer you are to any of those boundaries, the rougher the feel of the place is going to be, with the exception of 61st. Close to the corners, especially. Go beyond them (including south of 61st), and things get palpably more sketchy pretty quickly. That's not hyperbole.

That said, I lived a couple blocks outside the traditional "green zone" and was completely fine. A couple blocks further and even I'd have been a bit nervous, and I don't spook easily at all. Your mileage may vary, though, and I'm sure 90% of my classmates would have been pretty uncomfortable living where I did. I reckon that's a combination of legitimate concern and a generalized fear, whether acknowledged or not, of minorities from lower socioeconomic classes.

I think 53d and Cottage Grove is ok, provided you're at or to the east of Cottage Grove. Without knowing you, I wouldn't advise going west of CG though. Feel free to PM if you want to discuss further.


Yea agreed with all the above as a 10-year Hyde Park (former) resident

I likely would not live at 53rd/Cottage but moreso because it's not super convenient for any of the intra-Hyde-Park buses (unless they've changed any of the routes since I left) and the 4 pretty much sucks for getting downtown compared to the 6, IMO, since it's not an express bus (well, there used to be an express version, but I think they got rid of it in like... 2009 maybe?). Also the east side of hyde park is just a nicer place to live with lake proximity, the 6, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. Also pretty likely most of your friends will live over there at least for 1L year.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby HillandHollow » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:30 am

elterrible78 wrote:
LSRAT wrote:Hey y'all! Any opinions about 53rd/cottage grove area? Would you advise/advise against living in that area?


TL;DR answer: Depends on how skittish you are and your risk tolerance.

If you've read through this thread, you've probably seen that the rough delimiters of the "ok" area are 47th to the north, Cottage Grove to the west, and 61st to the south. The closer you are to any of those boundaries, the rougher the feel of the place is going to be, with the exception of 61st. Close to the corners, especially. Go beyond them (including south of 61st), and things get palpably more sketchy pretty quickly. That's not hyperbole.

That said, I lived a couple blocks outside the traditional "green zone" and was completely fine. A couple blocks further and even I'd have been a bit nervous, and I don't spook easily at all. Your mileage may vary, though, and I'm sure 90% of my classmates would have been pretty uncomfortable living where I did. I reckon that's a combination of legitimate concern and a generalized fear, whether acknowledged or not, of minorities from lower socioeconomic classes.

I think 53d and Cottage Grove is ok, provided you're at or to the east of Cottage Grove. Without knowing you, I wouldn't advise going west of CG though. Feel free to PM if you want to discuss further.



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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby walks » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:29 pm

Thoughts on living out of HP as a 1L?

I went to the College and, since graduating, I've lived in Pilsen. I like it much better up here and I'd prefer not to move back closer to campus if I don't have to. It's only like a ~20 minute car ride, and during the fall and spring I could ride my bike (~35 minutes) and not worry about parking. It doesn't seem daunting to me but there probably are factors I'm not considering. Am I vastly underestimating the amount of time I need to spend in the library? Will I be an outcast if I don't live in an EHP high rise with everyone else? All thoughts appreciated!

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby landshoes » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:19 pm

walks wrote:Thoughts on living out of HP as a 1L?

I went to the College and, since graduating, I've lived in Pilsen. I like it much better up here and I'd prefer not to move back closer to campus if I don't have to. It's only like a ~20 minute car ride, and during the fall and spring I could ride my bike (~35 minutes) and not worry about parking. It doesn't seem daunting to me but there probably are factors I'm not considering. Am I vastly underestimating the amount of time I need to spend in the library? Will I be an outcast if I don't live in an EHP high rise with everyone else? All thoughts appreciated!


If you're already used to it and don't mind the commute, it should be fine---but parking might be an issue.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby beepboopbeep » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:18 pm

walks wrote:Thoughts on living out of HP as a 1L?

I went to the College and, since graduating, I've lived in Pilsen. I like it much better up here and I'd prefer not to move back closer to campus if I don't have to. It's only like a ~20 minute car ride, and during the fall and spring I could ride my bike (~35 minutes) and not worry about parking. It doesn't seem daunting to me but there probably are factors I'm not considering. Am I vastly underestimating the amount of time I need to spend in the library? Will I be an outcast if I don't live in an EHP high rise with everyone else? All thoughts appreciated!


I basically never went to the library except on an absolute as-needed basis throughout the whole three years. You'll be fine on that front.

Social aspect is harder. Your call depending on how much you care about like making a bunch of new law school friends. I feel like most UofC undergrad folks I knew mostly didn't do the whole like cool kid social scene thing b/c combo of slight extra degree introversion where like bar review was not their scene + already having friends in the city.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby Necho2 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:30 pm

walks wrote:Thoughts on living out of HP as a 1L?

I went to the College and, since graduating, I've lived in Pilsen. I like it much better up here and I'd prefer not to move back closer to campus if I don't have to. It's only like a ~20 minute car ride, and during the fall and spring I could ride my bike (~35 minutes) and not worry about parking. It doesn't seem daunting to me but there probably are factors I'm not considering. Am I vastly underestimating the amount of time I need to spend in the library? Will I be an outcast if I don't live in an EHP high rise with everyone else? All thoughts appreciated!

Don't worry about it. Pilsen as a 1L (especially with transportation as you described) will be no problem- slightly more inconvenient than in HP, but you'll certainly be able to be as social as you want to be. And FWIW, having a chance to physically "leave" law school land can be pretty damn good for your mental health in my opinion. Also stuff like Bar Review is generally outside HP, so sometimes it's actually easier to do while living somewhere else.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby lebongenre » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:55 pm

I'm a 2L on a secondary journal, so I'd like to keep my fall quarter on the lighter side units-wise. Would it be stupid to take only one doctrinal/foundational course plus a clinic and clinic-related seminar (so 10-11 units total w/a Greenberg)? Should I be focused on knocking out foundational courses at this point?

ETA: I'm not gunning for a clerkship or anything fancy, in case that matters.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby charmonster » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm

lebongenre wrote:I'm a 2L on a secondary journal, so I'd like to keep my fall quarter on the lighter side units-wise. Would it be stupid to take only one doctrinal/foundational course plus a clinic and clinic-related seminar (so 10-11 units total w/a Greenberg)? Should I be focused on knocking out foundational courses at this point?

ETA: I'm not gunning for a clerkship or anything fancy, in case that matters.


I've never met anyone on a journal who thinks they took too light a load fall quarter 2L. Take it easy on yourself. (Clinics are more useful anyway.)

FYI, it's not easy to get into a Greenberg as a 2L.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby landshoes » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:24 pm

lebongenre wrote:I'm a 2L on a secondary journal, so I'd like to keep my fall quarter on the lighter side units-wise. Would it be stupid to take only one doctrinal/foundational course plus a clinic and clinic-related seminar (so 10-11 units total w/a Greenberg)? Should I be focused on knocking out foundational courses at this point?

ETA: I'm not gunning for a clerkship or anything fancy, in case that matters.


Some clinics are way harder than classes. I personally would prefer to just take finals over having clinic deadlines. But that's just me and whatever is easier is fine.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby archipm » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:19 am

I'm out of the loop and didn't know Greenbergs were even a thing until looking them up just now. Are all the seminars greenbergs or are some of them just like normal seminar style classes?

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby landshoes » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:34 pm

Most of the seminars are normal. Greenbergs are weird and you can identify them because they're one credit and they're pass/fail. 3Ls get preference in bidding for them.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby archipm » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:10 am

landshoes wrote:Most of the seminars are normal. Greenbergs are weird and you can identify them because they're one credit and they're pass/fail. 3Ls get preference in bidding for them.


Thanks! This is helpful to know.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby Bridgeport » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:18 am

Sort of in a weird situation, but I'm a rising 3L and I need my Winter 2018 grades to be out as early as possible (before April 1) due to work visa applications. I'm thinking of taking paper-based classes and submitting the papers really early. Is this the best way of getting all my grades as early as possible? What would be the alternatives?

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby landshoes » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:22 am

I would talk to the registrar. You will need their cooperation. My fastest grade was a seminar where we had short papers all throughout the class. You might also see if it makes sense to take a class pass/fail across the midway.

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby Robb » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:11 pm

landshoes wrote:I would talk to the registrar. You will need their cooperation. My fastest grade was a seminar where we had short papers all throughout the class. You might also see if it makes sense to take a class pass/fail across the midway.

+1 definitely raise with the registrar. Getting the paper early might not affect the grading timeline, at least one of my seminars my grade on a paper didn't come out until more than a year after I turned it in (I think this is rare, but just emphasizing that there are no guarantees and you need to talk to the registrar).

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Re: UChi Students & Alumni Taking Questions

Postby Bridgeport » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:28 am

Robb wrote:
landshoes wrote:I would talk to the registrar. You will need their cooperation. My fastest grade was a seminar where we had short papers all throughout the class. You might also see if it makes sense to take a class pass/fail across the midway.

+1 definitely raise with the registrar. Getting the paper early might not affect the grading timeline, at least one of my seminars my grade on a paper didn't come out until more than a year after I turned it in (I think this is rare, but just emphasizing that there are no guarantees and you need to talk to the registrar).


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