call-me-bubbles wrote:Hi everyone; 1L here. I've joined a couple of low-key student orgs, but I haven't been active so far due to family commitments and simply trying to keep up with readings and survive cold-calls. I've already accessed some materials from the UChicago outline bank, but they're pretty limited for my courses, and my own outlines up to now look pathetic in comparison, so -- pardon the stupid question -- how do I go about asking the older students if they'd mind sharing their outlines? We just had a whole outlining session with the academic counselors, and they mentioned it repeatedly, so it seems like that's common practice, but I just don't know any 2Ls or 3Ls I feel I could ask . . . but yet it seems like that's what each successive generation of 1Ls is supposed/expected to do?
Fucking clueless and worried about winding up at the bottom of my class
What outlines do you need? I'll hook you up if I can
I never outlined for shit and was NOT at the bottom of my class.
Remember: learn the material. Practice applying it. Everything else is noise.
Also I'm sorry my classmates freaked you out about outlining. It's really just rewriting your notes so you can review them.
am graduated person
my experience was that two things mattered way more than outlining:
1- internalizing how shit worked enough to apply it - for me this came more through practice tests than outlining
2- not being a fucking basket case during exams, if you are relaxed and confident you'll do better even if you don't know the material as well
i know it is hard to do 2 if you don't feel like you can do 1, but these things are actually decouple-able and spending some time just relaxing and getting your mindset right, especially the night before/morning of but honestly just throughout because stress can pile up, is going to do a lot more for you in most cases than cramming. if you are furiously outlining right now you definitely don't need to be and can spare a couple nights a week doing fun non-law-school shit.
subpoint to 1: having a study group can be legit too if you aren't ready for practice tests. just answering other peoples' questions about stuff / explaining things that you get that they don't get / asking similar questions to them when the roles are reversed helps get you there where you can take cases/rules/fact patterns and apply them to other fact patterns. ask each other hypos and talk through them and i think preferably be comfortable enough to not just agree with everything people say because they're your friends or w/e
point 3, maybe? is that like, say right now you are panicking because your previous notes are worthless, they spend too much time on unimportant stuff and you can't easily pull out the important stuff now that you have an idea of what that is. notice that and change it going forward.
better to have half a class's worth of good notes than a full quarter's of bad notes that are self-consistent. i felt like a lot of people just kinda stuck to what they were doing regardless of whether it worked for them and that was frustrating to observe.
landshoes wrote:Also I sometimes refuse to share personal outlines because I think they're misleading, super short, or so disorganized that they won't help. If that happens don't worry. Some people don't outline as much. I sometimes just ctrl+f my notes during a test.
This happened to me a few times and I just said I didn't outline for whatever class, which was true (seems different than refusing to share?)