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Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:01 am
by thegor1987
Starting a poll relating to a set of circumstances I am currently experiencing.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:10 am
by 2011Law
Depends how loud the person is, how small the area of the library is, and flavor, as well as texture, of the chip itself.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:14 am
by Kilpatrick
I also say it depends on the time of day. When I see people eating nacho Doritos at 7 in the morning it makes me want to throw up.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:19 am
by Renzo
Chewing with mouth open or closed?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:17 am
by homestyle28
noise cancelling headphones?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:58 am
by rdcws000
HUGE pet peeve of mine.

I can't stand to hear people chewing, especially when I am on the "ultra quiet" floor of our library. It's disgusting. Can a person be that hungry that they can't sit and study for a 2-3 hour period without shoveling snacks in their mouth?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:49 am
by FunkyJD
If you deliberately do something noisy in a place where quiet is necessary and expected, you're a bad person.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:10 am
by rinkrat19
The chewing would bother me less than the chip bag. If you're eating out of those new biodegradable Sunchips bags that make more noise than ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH, you deserve to die.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:56 am
by MrKappus
I'm the first one to get pissed off at library rudeness, but is this shit serious? As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares?? It'll be over in like 5 minutes. Go take a walk around the floor. Surf the web for ten minutes (which it looks like you did anyway, OP). Smoke a cigarette, read the news, or go find a friend to talk to.

Or, even better, learn to tune out distractions and stop being an easily distracted 5 year-old. You're all going to work in offices some day, doing important stuff that requires concentration...and guess what? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEAD SILENT. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK, CHIPS ARE GOING TO BE EATEN, and PHONES ARE GOING TO RING. Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips. Suck it up.

I'm all for library etiquette, but this thread's ridiculous.

Edited for PC-ness.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:34 am
by You Gotta Have Faith
MrKappus wrote: Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery


:lol:

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:36 am
by danidancer
MrKappus wrote:I'm the first one to get pissed off at library rudeness, but is this shit serious? As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares?? It'll be over in like 5 minutes. Go take a walk around the floor. Surf the web for ten minutes (which it looks like you did anyway, OP). Smoke a cigarette, read the news, or go find a friend to talk to.

Or, even better, learn to tune out distractions and stop being an easily distracted 5 year-old. You're all going to work in offices some day, doing important stuff that requires concentration...and guess what? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEAD SILENT. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK, CHIPS ARE GOING TO BE EATEN, and PHONES ARE GOING TO RING. Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips. Suck it up.

I'm all for library etiquette, but this thread's ridiculous.

Edited for PC-ness.


To be fair, because libraries are dead silent, little noises tend to be magnified. It's a lot easier to concentrate in a place with a lot of background noise (an office, a coffee shop) than in a library with just one or two people making noise - the background noise is a lot easier to tone out. That being said, I am definitely guilty of the library food sneaking - I try my hardest to be as quiet as possible though.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:17 am
by ppa840
MrKappus wrote:I'm the first one to get pissed off at library rudeness, but is this shit serious? As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares?? It'll be over in like 5 minutes. Go take a walk around the floor. Surf the web for ten minutes (which it looks like you did anyway, OP). Smoke a cigarette, read the news, or go find a friend to talk to.

Or, even better, learn to tune out distractions and stop being an easily distracted 5 year-old. You're all going to work in offices some day, doing important stuff that requires concentration...and guess what? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEAD SILENT. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK, CHIPS ARE GOING TO BE EATEN, and PHONES ARE GOING TO RING. Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips. Suck it up.

I'm all for library etiquette, but this thread's ridiculous.

Edited for PC-ness.


+1

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:09 am
by FunkyJD
Well, I stand by my earlier comment. An office is not a library, and vice versa. It's not unreasonable to expect someone to not be crunching their chips around you.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:33 pm
by Black-Blue
FunkyJD wrote:If you deliberately do something noisy in a place where quiet is necessary and expected, you're a bad person.

What if you negligently do something noisy in a place where quiet is necessary and expected. Are you also a bad person?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:44 pm
by MrKappus
Black-Blue wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:If you deliberately do something noisy in a place where quiet is necessary and expected, you're a bad person.

What if you negligently do something noisy in a place where quiet is necessary and expected. Are you also a bad person?


FJD's "deliberate" language also leads me to believe that involuntary noise does not result in the "bad person" label. Maybe the original offender had a Doritos compulsion.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:26 pm
by Black-Blue
I think this would make a good hypo for a crim law exam. First, you analyze if the statute says that dorito eating in the library is a malum in se crime or if it requires a mens rea. Then, you figure out what was the mens rea of the dorito eater.

It would also make a good policy question for a contracts exam -- should a social contract to keep quiet in the library be enforceable?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:35 pm
by JazzOne
Black-Blue wrote:I think this would make a good hypo for a crim law exam. First, you analyze if the statute says that dorito eating in the library is a malum in se crime or if it requires a mens rea. Then, you figure out what was the mens rea of the dorito eater.

It would also make a good policy question for a contracts exam -- should a social contract to keep quiet in the library be enforceable?

I think there's an implied easement because people have been doing it so long without opposition.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:36 pm
by JazzOne
MrKappus wrote:As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares??

I was going to ask what size bag of chips we're talking about here. If it's a single serving bag, then it's not a big deal. If they pull out the full-size bag, then that's pretty bad form.

MrKappus wrote:Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips.

Any tips on how to get this kind of gig straight out of LS? Do you need a few years in biglaw before you can lateral?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:50 pm
by MrKappus
JazzOne wrote:
MrKappus wrote:As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares??

I was going to ask what size bag of chips we're talking about here. If it's a single serving bag, then it's not a big deal. If they pull out the full-size bag, then that's pretty bad form.

MrKappus wrote:Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips.

Any tips on how to get this kind of gig straight out of LS? Do you need a few years in biglaw before you can lateral?


A few years in biglaw's probably the most orthodox way. In-house jobs look for a trinity of features: legal experience, mgmt capability, and stability. But even a monastery in-house job can be stressful, so you'd want the biglaw background so you don't get crucified.

I'll avoid the obvious altar boy/biglaw jokes (both get you screwed!). I guess I didn't avoid it.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:57 pm
by JazzOne
MrKappus wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
MrKappus wrote:As long as it's a single-serving bag and not a huge-ass bag of Doritos, who the fuck cares??

I was going to ask what size bag of chips we're talking about here. If it's a single serving bag, then it's not a big deal. If they pull out the full-size bag, then that's pretty bad form.

MrKappus wrote:Unless you're going to be in-house counsel at a monastery, it's going to be a hell of a lot noisier than 5 minutes of chips.

Any tips on how to get this kind of gig straight out of LS? Do you need a few years in biglaw before you can lateral?


A few years in biglaw's probably the most orthodox way. In-house jobs look for a trinity of features: legal experience, mgmt capability, and stability. But even a monastery in-house job can be stressful, so you'd want the biglaw background so you don't get crucified.

I'll avoid the obvious altar boy/biglaw jokes (both get you screwed!). I guess I didn't avoid it.

I threw you a softball, but you really knocked it out of the park.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:27 pm
by jgarber72
I even wonder why most students even go to the library. Meaning, I may see one percent (1%) actually looking in a law book. Everyone seems to just look through Westlaw or Lexis. If you want to eat while "studying", go to Starbucks or Barnes & Noble if you only plan on using online citation services. Does anyone even know how to research a case through books anymore?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:45 pm
by omninode
If you have to be eating something every waking minute of your life, including at the library, choose something other than the loudest food ever invented. Potato chips are the worst.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:36 am
by canuck
Eating anything loud or smelly in the library is deplorable. Take a 15 minute break and eat in an appropriate venue.

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:42 am
by ResolutePear
jgarber72 wrote:I even wonder why most students even go to the library. Meaning, I may see one percent (1%) actually looking in a law book. Everyone seems to just look through Westlaw or Lexis. If you want to eat while "studying", go to Starbucks or Barnes & Noble if you only plan on using online citation services. Does anyone even know how to research a case through books anymore?


Think about this.

If I need to find cases that use... oh - let's say a narrowly tailored test. Am I going to sift through 30 books by hand or am I just going to run a search query?

Re: Poll on library etiquette

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:47 am
by Grizz
Dip in the 'bary is TCR.