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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby goldeneye » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:58 pm

doriori wrote:Question to JD/LLM Tax Law Student at WUSTL.
How would you rate this joint degree at WUSTL? What are the job prospects like? Especially for international?


I think in general, LLM's are beneficial for a very small percentage of the population

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby DoveBodyWash » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:20 pm

goldeneye wrote:
doriori wrote:Question to JD/LLM Tax Law Student at WUSTL.
How would you rate this joint degree at WUSTL? What are the job prospects like? Especially for international?


I think in general, LLM's are beneficial for a very small percentage of the population

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Postby Cellar-door » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:03 pm

sublime wrote:It is like they intentionally made as many classes either conflict or be at like 6pm as possible.

I need another class, assuming I won't get into pretrial. :|

38 seats left in Secrecy and Whistleblowing. Gets the Ethics requirement out of the way, only downside is that it is at 8AM.

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Postby hoos89 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:41 pm

sublime wrote:It is like they intentionally made as many classes either conflict or be at like 6pm as possible.

I need another class, assuming I won't get into pretrial. :|


Pretty much any class taught my an adjunct is going to be in the evening, because they are also practicing attorneys.

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby bostonbrewer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:59 pm

This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?

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Postby hoos89 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:24 pm

bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?


I wouldn't come here expecting to get a job with a major STL firm, if that's what you're asking. Although other factors like IP background, and W/E shouldn't be discounted, either.

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Postby chuckbass » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:33 pm

bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?

Well you just said you're straight, so I wouldn't worry to much about getting boned.

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Postby bostonbrewer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:38 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?

Well you just said you're straight, so I wouldn't worry to much about getting boned.

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Postby John Everyman » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:38 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?

Well you just said you're straight, so I wouldn't worry to much about getting boned.


This was pretty great.

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Postby LET'S GET IT » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:58 pm

hoos89 wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?


I wouldn't come here expecting to get a job with a major STL firm, if that's what you're asking. Although other factors like IP background, and W/E shouldn't be discounted, either.


This may be a dumb question, but what type of WE is helpful in getting a job? During my interview, they SAID that my WE would be very helpful in landing a job but I couldn't tell if it was a sales pitch or not.

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Postby fl0w » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:18 pm

LET'S GET IT wrote:
hoos89 wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?


I wouldn't come here expecting to get a job with a major STL firm, if that's what you're asking. Although other factors like IP background, and W/E shouldn't be discounted, either.


This may be a dumb question, but what type of WE is helpful in getting a job? During my interview, they SAID that my WE would be very helpful in landing a job but I couldn't tell if it was a sales pitch or not.


Not the line where you were a lifeguard at a pool for a summer.
Basically any substantive work experience for a real company/organization in industry is somewhat helpful.
If that industry is engineering you may be hitting the jackpot. If your experience is creeping on the 5 year mark before going back to school, you are also approaching jackpot status. Jackpot meaning an interviewer will actually respect the fact that you have experience under your belt and it will be favorable for you.

1-2 years is a conversation piece. 3-4 years it depends what you did.
[all my opinion, being one of the 5+ yrs experience people when i entered]

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Postby JustHawkin » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:17 pm

scottidsntknow wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?

Well you just said you're straight, so I wouldn't worry to much about getting boned.

We're forgetting about federal loans here. Those will bone you pretty hard.

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Postby goldeneye » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:26 pm

sublime wrote:
Cellar-door wrote:
sublime wrote:It is like they intentionally made as many classes either conflict or be at like 6pm as possible.

I need another class, assuming I won't get into pretrial. :|

38 seats left in Secrecy and Whistleblowing. Gets the Ethics requirement out of the way, only downside is that it is at 8AM.



Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately, it conflicts with commercial law.

Although I was considering getting the ethics requirement out of the way by taking Legal Professionalism with Kuehn. Have you (or anybody) heard anything about him/that?


inb4 you hate commercial law

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Postby Cellar-door » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:10 am

So while we are talking courses.
Since I'm stuck on the waiting list for Corporations I'm thinking about taking Federal Income Taxation with Block.

Why is it worth 4 credits as opposed to 3?
Should I be scared?
How bad can a course with an in-class final be?

Thoughts?

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby bostonbrewer » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:11 am

fl0w wrote:
LET'S GET IT wrote:
hoos89 wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:This thread has me worried.

As a WUSTL 0L/straight white man with no ties to STL, am I boned?


I wouldn't come here expecting to get a job with a major STL firm, if that's what you're asking. Although other factors like IP background, and W/E shouldn't be discounted, either.


This may be a dumb question, but what type of WE is helpful in getting a job? During my interview, they SAID that my WE would be very helpful in landing a job but I couldn't tell if it was a sales pitch or not.


Not the line where you were a lifeguard at a pool for a summer.
Basically any substantive work experience for a real company/organization in industry is somewhat helpful.
If that industry is engineering you may be hitting the jackpot. If your experience is creeping on the 5 year mark before going back to school, you are also approaching jackpot status. Jackpot meaning an interviewer will actually respect the fact that you have experience under your belt and it will be favorable for you.

1-2 years is a conversation piece. 3-4 years it depends what you did.
[all my opinion, being one of the 5+ yrs experience people when i entered]

So would 2 years in a law office (that is closely linked to the area I want to practice in) be anything more than a conversation piece?

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby goldeneye » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:43 am

Cellar-door wrote:So while we are talking courses.
Since I'm stuck on the waiting list for Corporations I'm thinking about taking Federal Income Taxation with Block.

Why is it worth 4 credits as opposed to 3?
Should I be scared?
How bad can a course with an in-class final be?

Thoughts?


In class final is a deceptive term. It means it's a regular exam, not take home. Don't get caught thinking it's done during a regular class period.

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby fl0w » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:41 am

bostonbrewer wrote:
fl0w wrote:1-2 years is a conversation piece. 3-4 years it depends what you did.
[all my opinion, being one of the 5+ yrs experience people when i entered]

So would 2 years in a law office (that is closely linked to the area I want to practice in) be anything more than a conversation piece?


yeah maybe. depends what you did, right? if it is secretary / assistant type stuff then they'd probably be like "oh neat." Depending on what you did I could see the conversation going "yeah i worked in a law office and that is what got me interested in law / that's how I know I'd like it at a law firm." and then they go "cool, what'd you do?" If the answer isn't substantive legal work, then the convo on it just dies there.

But if you have legit good stories and had work that is interesting on the level that a practicing attorney would be into it, then it could go differently.

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Postby notedgarfigaro » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:54 pm

Cellar-door wrote:So while we are talking courses.
Since I'm stuck on the waiting list for Corporations I'm thinking about taking Federal Income Taxation with Block.

Why is it worth 4 credits as opposed to 3?
Should I be scared?
How bad can a course with an in-class final be?

Thoughts?


IMO, Block's fed tax class is a breeze...except her final is an incomprehensible mess. You meet slightly longer each week for the extra credit, but the workload is VERY manageable and the coursebook is straight forward and very readable.

I found it to be the most straight forward class in law school b/c almost every transaction is balanced, and the ones that aren't (such as healthcare, mortgage interest deduction etc) you already are familiar. Block herself is very good at explaining the system, and she's pretty lovable in her own right.

Corporate Tax...that's a whole other story.

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Postby bostonbrewer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:26 am

fl0w wrote:
bostonbrewer wrote:
fl0w wrote:1-2 years is a conversation piece. 3-4 years it depends what you did.
[all my opinion, being one of the 5+ yrs experience people when i entered]

So would 2 years in a law office (that is closely linked to the area I want to practice in) be anything more than a conversation piece?


yeah maybe. depends what you did, right? if it is secretary / assistant type stuff then they'd probably be like "oh neat." Depending on what you did I could see the conversation going "yeah i worked in a law office and that is what got me interested in law / that's how I know I'd like it at a law firm." and then they go "cool, what'd you do?" If the answer isn't substantive legal work, then the convo on it just dies there.

But if you have legit good stories and had work that is interesting on the level that a practicing attorney would be into it, then it could go differently.

Thanks for the guidance. Much appreciated.

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Re: WUSTL Recent Grad (and others) Taking Questions

Postby Unagi » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:50 am

For those looking for weekend courses, financial literacy was just added.




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