mountaintime wrote:JCougar wrote:scottidsntknow wrote:Do wustl students without any previous ties have a chance at STL biglaw?
Considering the outcomes of my class, the answer seems to be a resounding "No." I mean, I think I know one or two people from Kansas that got STL biglaw, but everyone else was from STL.
It seems to go: people from STL > people from elsewhere in the midwest (the closer to STL the better, but Chicago appears to almost be a negative) > people from other regions.
I can only think of one person who got STL biglaw from co2013 who had no meaningful ties to STL or the midwest.
The deeper question you should be asking yourself is: If I don't have ties to St. Louis or the Midwest, why do I even want to stay in St. Louis?
So before you consider your chances of getting STL BigLaw, you really should (for your own sake) unpack why you want to stay here in the first place. ESPECIALLY if that's a major reason why you're coming to WUSTL. St. Louis is an insular market. It's tough to enter, and perhaps more importantly, it's difficult to exit. If you want to do corporate/transactional work, you're not going to be the same kind of work in STL BigLaw that you'd be doing in NYC or Chicago. And the brand of the firms here don't carry especially well in the major markets (minus Husch, Dentons, and BryanCave). If you have an opportunity to accept an offer with a firm here, you need to be SURE that you're willing to stay.
I pondered the idea of staying STL for a few reasons: low-living costs, tight-knit community, relaxed billable requirements (in comparison to the primary markets). But at the end of the day, none of those things are enough for me to know for sure that I want to stay here forever. IMHO i don't think outsiders really know enough about the area to make that decision. Like I've been in STL for a little less than a year. That's not long enough for me to bet my career on the STL horse.
Spikedude wrote:It's definitely possible to get a 1L SA in STL biglaw without any STL ties. It's difficult but I know of two people that accomplished it. 1 is from TX, the other is from FL. Both are minorities though.
If you don't do diversity OCI or aren't eligible, it's virtually impossible to get 1L SA without ties. I voluntarily opted out of diversity OCI and only did regular OCI and got passed up by firms for classmates with lower credentials, but who had ties. Which makes sense and i'm not even mad about it. Because why would a firm spend that kind of money on someone who's gonna leave? The pool for normal summer associates and diversity SA's are different in terms of the available slots. Diversity hires are classified as Diversity Clerks or diversity SA's, which gives a firm something they can point to when making a pitch to minority clients and such. So hiring diversity 1Ls without ties still adds value even if they end up leaving.
There are kids in the top 10% WITH STL ties who didn't get a 1L SA here. And virtually all of my peers who did regular OCI and were top 10% or higher and didn't have ties here struck out. Out of the 3 firms i had callbacks with, two of them actually called me to tell me that i didn't get the position because i "lacked connections to the city." And it was also something they were very upfront about during my callbacks.