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University of Pittsburgh School of Law

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University of Pittsburgh School of Law is located in Pittsburgh, PA. It appears on the Top Law Schools Rankings page.

Please "post a reply" and add any comments you have about Pitt Law. Many generations of prospective law students will benefit by the information you share.

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Pitt Law

Postby MagicMurdock » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:28 am

While I do not attend Pitt law myself, a close relative does, and he and I have spoken extensively about it.

A few things he likes:

A diverse student body
Supportive faculty
Not-ultra-competitive student body

Major dislike:

Career services office. From what he says, the school's career services office does not do nearly enough to help students find summer clerkships.

So basically, he enjoys the school, but he finds the career service office highly unhelpful.

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Postby Harvey Dent » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:49 pm

Anyone offer more insight into or opinions on this school?

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Postby prizm77 » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:54 pm

Anyone?

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Postby VWRescue » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:34 am

i had a friend at Upitt and disliked it enough to transfer to a LOWER ranked school. i never talked to him too much about his decision though, so i can't say specifically.

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Postby paulie » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:29 pm

I dunno about Pitt Law, but if anyone's looking to go there, Pittsburgh's cost of living is awesome and there are lots of little neighborhoods with tons of character. Stay away from JJ Land Realtors though. They were my former slumlords.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby ttbsnc » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:57 pm

Bumpin' it.
Anything to share?

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby Lilfolksinger » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:33 am

Hi. I am brand new here to TLS, but I have been reading this forum for over a year, and have learned a lot from the folks on the forum. I am headed to the University of Pittsburgh in the fall. I am leaving behind a wonderful career, and have chosen Pitt over other law schools that are higher ranked (namely 2 in the top 50). I initially applied to Pitt as a semi-safety school, but after I was accepted, I went to visit and I fell in love with both the school and the city. Here are the things I know about Pitt:

1) They have excellent faculty. One of the things that Pitt is known for is the quality of their faculty.

2) They have a wonderful library.

3) The students there seemed happy and well-adjusted.

4) Graduates of Pitt place very well in Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania, and not too badly in New York. There are a lot of firms in Pittsburgh, and Pitt grads are the strong majority of grads employed in these firms.

5) The school is awesome. It is very urban, huge, beautiful, and very strongly supported in the city. Pitt students get a lot of benefits- free bus access with a Pitt ID, cheaper food, etc.

The two things I was not as thrilled with about Pitt was the career services (which has already been mentioned), and the actual law building (which was nice, but pretty old).

I am, however, very excited about starting at Pitt in the fall.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby edmoser » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:07 am

It's a great education, but it's also a regional school so you may have to take a job in Pittsburgh. Even though it's in PA, it's not close enough to Philadelphia that employers feel very comfortable hiring from there.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby reverendt » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:14 pm

Lilfolksinger...I guess I'll be seeing you in August.

I relocate to Pittsburgh in mid-July. The wife and I got a place in Regent Square...about 15-20 minutes from school by bus.

BTW....what do you mean you get cheaper food????? (Please explain!)

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby ttbsnc » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:26 am

i'm stoked about going, too. i chose it over univ. at buffalo (a way cheaper option, but i really didn't want to be stuck in that city) and i can't wait to get there in august!

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby Lilfolksinger » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:30 pm

Students at Pitt get a lot of discounts at local restaurants simply by showing their Pitt ID. The Pitt ID also gets you discounts at a lot of events around town...I was surprised when I went to visit and saw how many restaurants advertised 10% or 15% discounts for Pitt students.

Cool, huh?

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby alexb240 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:53 pm

I am from Pittsburgh and attended Pitt undergrad. One minor negative of the law school is that the building is right in the center of the undergrad campus -- thus, you'll be sharing the same local bars with undergrads. That said, the nearby neighborhood of Shadyside is often considered to be a hotspot for young professionals and a lot of graduate students will live in/go out in Shadyside.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby reverendt » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:56 am

alexb240 wrote:I am from Pittsburgh and attended Pitt undergrad. One minor negative of the law school is that the building is right in the center of the undergrad campus -- thus, you'll be sharing the same local bars with undergrads. That said, the nearby neighborhood of Shadyside is often considered to be a hotspot for young professionals and a lot of graduate students will live in/go out in Shadyside.

Yeah I've already discovered Hemmingway's Bar, across from the law school. Cheap beer, but MAN does it get packed with undergrads!!!
That's why I'm moving to Regent Square.
LILFOLKSINGER...I didn't know that...that's a great deal!

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby reverendt » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:57 am

ttbsnc wrote:i'm stoked about going, too. i chose it over univ. at buffalo (a way cheaper option, but i really didn't want to be stuck in that city) and i can't wait to get there in august!

Yup...the wife & I had the Buffalo option as well.
Pittsburgh seemed like a much cooler town.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby ttbsnc » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:59 am

reverendt wrote:
ttbsnc wrote:i'm stoked about going, too. i chose it over univ. at buffalo (a way cheaper option, but i really didn't want to be stuck in that city) and i can't wait to get there in august!

Yup...the wife & I had the Buffalo option as well.
Pittsburgh seemed like a much cooler town.

It's a WAY cooler town. As someone who grew up in Western New York, trust me, you made the better cultural choice.
I'll always love the Bills, but the Steelers are competing for the #1 place in my football heart.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby Zephyr873 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:40 pm

Why has the ranking dropped, and will it return to where it should be?

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby 2009 Prospective » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:48 am

Bump regarding the ratings drop. Anyone?

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby Bankhead » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:51 am

The dean issued a statement last year regarding the rankings drop. If I could find it, I'd post it. He mentioned how it was a combination of a lot of little things, but doesn't affect the quality of education that Pitt students are receiving.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby carrowd3 » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:36 pm

carrowd3 wrote:Here is the response from the Dean about the drop in USNWR rankings last year....

Dear Pitt Law Students:

Many of you may have heard that Pitt Law’s ranking in the new US
News ranking, which is being officially released today, has
dropped from 57 to 73. I know that this drop may be distressing
to some students, and that you may wonder what this means about
the School. First, let me tell what it does not mean. It does
not mean that the quality of the education that you are receiving
at Pitt Law has declined over the past year. A number of recent
accomplishments provide strong, objective evidence of the quality
of the education Pitt Law provides and the growing opportunities
available to our students. In a September 2007 national ranking
of law school faculties’ scholarly impact, Pitt Law ranked #21 –
ahead of many schools in the US News top tier – providing
objective evidence of the high quality of our faculty.
Employment figures from the past two years have shown an increase
in the percentage of our graduates accepting jobs outside of
Pennsylvania: for the class of 2006 the rate was 37.2%, and for
the class of 2007 preliminary data indicate a rate of 37%, with
students taking jobs in 24 different states. These figures
represent increases in out-of-state employment since 2004 (28.5%)
and 2005 (26.6%), and show broadening employment opportunities
for our graduates. The JURIST legal website – powered and edited
by Pitt Law students – was named a top legal blog by the ABA
Journal and in a ranking released last month was the most cited
of any blog sponsored by a law faculty member in terms of
citations in law reviews. This recognition of JURIST attests to
the School’s increasing, positive visibility within the legal
profession nationally. In addition, in the past few years we
have sustained or increased our progress in the areas of
selectivity in admissions, bar passage rates, employment rates
nine months post-graduation, and recruitment of strong faculty
members.

Don’t get me wrong – I know that there are things the School can
do better, and with your help and input, we will keep working to
improve areas where concerns exist. My point here is that it was
not a drop in the quality of the educational programming that led
to the drop in the rankings.

Instead, my preliminary readings of the rankings show that two
factors were most responsible for the drop. The first,
expenditures, is a factor that isn’t reported on any of the US
News tables. Two years ago, the ABA changed its instructions
regarding how law schools have to report expenditures, and as a
result, Pitt Law’s reported expenditures declined significantly.
This change in expenditures reporting methodology does not
reflect any change in the actual level of support we receive from
the University or the resources we invest in our programs, and it
fails to reflect the numerous benefits our students receive from
attending a law school situated in a world class university like
Pitt. Thus, with respect to this factor, a portion of the change
in our rankings is attributable to a change in external reporting
requirements, not any change in what we’re doing at the Law
School. The second factor that had an impact is the decrease in
our reputational score among judges and lawyers, which declined
from 3.3 to 2.9 (on a 5 point scale). If I were convinced that
the decrease this year reflected an actual drop in our reputation
among this group, I’d be quite concerned. That said, this year
only 26% of judges and lawyers surveyed responded, and our score
on this item has fluctuated between 3.3 and 2.8 over the past
several years. Indeed, each year since 2001 this score has
fluctuated in the range between 2.8 and 3.3, and a score of 2.9
is well within our normal variation for this factor. So while we
will keep working hard to improve Pitt Law’s reputation, I’m not
convinced this year’s drop is cause for alarm.

Notwithstanding the impression that some may take from the
recently released rankings, I am confident that the substance of
what is happening here at Pitt Law is moving in the right
direction. Even so, I do want to emphasize that I am committed
to continuing to raise the quality of the Law School and to
making sure that others in the legal world know about the good
things going on here so that the School’s rankings will improve.
Accordingly, while we will continue to focus primarily on our
educational mission, the Law School will also keep taking steps
to examine the best methods for doing a more effective job of
getting the word out more broadly to external audiences about the
high quality of the education here and of the attorneys who come
out of Pitt Law. These steps will include working with
University administrators and communications professionals, as
well as looking at what other law schools are doing to publicize
their accomplishments. We also will continue to encourage our
alumni to act as “ambassadors” for the School within the legal
profession and to explore ways in which we can support current
students in doing so as well – for example, by becoming involved
in student organizations and participating in competitions on a
national level. Through work and initiatives that contribute to
our individual success, we all can play a role in continuing to
improve the School in substantive ways that will be reflected in
the rankings.

I realize that some of you may have more questions about the
rankings, and I’ll be happy to do my best to address them. We
have scheduled a “town hall forum” for Monday, April 14, from
noon to 2 p.m. in the Teplitz Moot Courtroom, and that forum will
provide one venue for raising questions or concerns relating to
the rankings or whatever else is on your mind.

Until then, enjoy the beginnings of spring.

Best regards,
Mary Crossley
Dean

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby doubled99 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:45 pm

bumping for more info...

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby HarveyBirdman » Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:17 pm

bump.

I've visited a friend who is going to college in Pittsburgh right now, but not at the University of Pittsburgh, and I have to say from what I've seen the city is pretty vibrant and doing well for itself. I mean, compared to the shithole cities I'm used to in Ohio.

Does anyone know anything about this JURIST thing at Pitt?

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby northwood » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:31 pm

i know this is an old thread. but anymore insights as to apartments and landlords to rent from/ or stay away from would be very helpful

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby BlueSun » Fri May 13, 2011 2:17 am

My best advice for law students is to not rent in Oakland. Oakland landlords are somewhat notorious for their poor treatment of students. Most law students try to live in other parts of the city -- Squirrel Hill and Shadyside are nice, as is Regent Square. Southside is viable as are some other parts of the city. Bus service within the city is good enough that you don't need to live in Oakland. None of my friends did during law school (well, maybe one, I think did for a year or so.)

I'm an outgoing 3L so I'm graduating from Pitt Law... tomorrow actually. But if anyone has any questions about how the school runs, the administration, classes to take or avoid, etc. I would be happy to answer what I can on the thread or via private message. I remember how overwhelming starting law school was so if I can help, I'd be glad to do so.

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Re: University of Pittsburgh School of Law

Postby brownlaw56 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:41 am

Lilfolksinger wrote:Hi. I am brand new here to TLS, but I have been reading this forum for over a year, and have learned a lot from the folks on the forum. I am headed to the University of Pittsburgh in the fall. I am leaving behind a wonderful career, and have chosen Pitt over other law schools that are higher ranked (namely 2 in the top 50). I initially applied to Pitt as a semi-safety school, but after I was accepted, I went to visit and I fell in love with both the school and the city. Here are the things I know about Pitt:

1) They have excellent faculty. One of the things that Pitt is known for is the quality of their faculty.

2) They have a wonderful library.

3) The students there seemed happy and well-adjusted.

4) Graduates of Pitt place very well in Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania, and not too badly in New York. There are a lot of firms in Pittsburgh, and Pitt grads are the strong majority of grads employed in these firms.

5) The school is awesome. It is very urban, huge, beautiful, and very strongly supported in the city. Pitt students get a lot of benefits- free bus access with a Pitt ID, cheaper food, etc.

The two things I was not as thrilled with about Pitt was the career services (which has already been mentioned), and the actual law building (which was nice, but pretty old).

I am, however, very excited about starting at Pitt in the fall.


I went to Pitt for undergrad and am strongly considering it for a JD because I want to work in PA. The ONLY thing that makes me reconsider it is the Career Services office. It is MISERABLE! I'm pretty sure the undergrad career services and the law school career services are the same people and they really don't do anything. I loved Pitt for the academics, but the only people who get help finding jobs after they leave Pitt are engineers.




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