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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby Kronk » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:40 am

r2b2ct wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

I feel you bro. I also hate it when people neglect those who choose to study minimally in UG. I mean come on, how do you know how long the 3.9 studied compared to the 3.1?


I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby 09042014 » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:39 am

Kronk wrote:
r2b2ct wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

I feel you bro. I also hate it when people neglect those who choose to study minimally in UG. I mean come on, how do you know how long the 3.9 studied compared to the 3.1?


I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Really? I'd think the opposite. A person can choose to become more motivated. They can't choose to stop being a choker.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby rayiner » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:43 am

Kronk wrote:I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Your all-important 1L grades consist almost entirely of 6-8 high-presssure time-limited exams.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby lawyering » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:57 am

rayiner wrote:
Kronk wrote:I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Your all-important 1L grades if you don't go to Yale consist almost entirely of 6-8 high-presssure time-limited exams.


FTFY

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby stratocophic » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:05 am

Desert Fox wrote:
Kronk wrote:
r2b2ct wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

I feel you bro. I also hate it when people neglect those who choose to study minimally in UG. I mean come on, how do you know how long the 3.9 studied compared to the 3.1?


I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Really? I'd think the opposite. A person can choose to become more motivated. They can't choose to stop being a choker.
You can't teach being clutch.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby dudester » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:44 am

Desert Fox wrote:
Kronk wrote:
r2b2ct wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

I feel you bro. I also hate it when people neglect those who choose to study minimally in UG. I mean come on, how do you know how long the 3.9 studied compared to the 3.1?


I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Really? I'd think the opposite. A person can choose to become more motivated. They can't choose to stop being a choker.


Psychology fail

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby mbw » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:07 am

Desert Fox wrote:
Kronk wrote:
r2b2ct wrote:
I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


Really? I'd think the opposite. A person can choose to become more motivated. They can't choose to stop being a choker.


Hence, the invention of Xanax (which student health services generally give out like candy... or so I've heard...)

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:08 am

Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.


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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby $1.99 » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:40 pm

berkeley's LSAT median is low because the school is a joke, not because they take into account other factors that the rest of the T14 ignore, boalt is not special

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby Morrissey'sGhost » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:42 pm

adh07d wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

wrong

No I'd say its pretty right.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby Morrissey'sGhost » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:52 pm

And for you to deride a school for preferring the candidate with unique work/extracurricular experience who can write an interesting well-thought out essay, over the robot who spends 6 months 12 hours a day prepping for a test so he can hit an extra three multiple choice questions is pretty ridiculous when you really take step back and look at it. And if you don't know individuals that fit the bill for the two categories I've described, I'd guess you're probably a member of the later group.
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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:53 pm

Morrissey'sGhost wrote:And for you to deride a school for preferring the candidate with unique work/extracurricular experience who can write an interesting well-thought out essay, over the robot who spends 6 months 12 hours a day prepping for a test so he can hit an extra three multiple choice questions is pretty ridiculous when you really take step back and look at it. And if you don't know individuals that fit the bill for the two categories I've described, I'd guess you're probably a member of the former category.

EGREGIOUS anti-aspergers trolling. You sir are a bigot.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby booboo » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:55 pm

kittenmittons wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:And for you to deride a school for preferring the candidate with unique work/extracurricular experience who can write an interesting well-thought out essay, over the robot who spends 6 months 12 hours a day prepping for a test so he can hit an extra three multiple choice questions is pretty ridiculous when you really take step back and look at it. And if you don't know individuals that fit the bill for the two categories I've described, I'd guess you're probably a member of the former category.

EGREGIOUS anti-aspergers trolling. You sir are a bigot.


There he is.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby savagecheater » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:08 pm

Kronk wrote:
r2b2ct wrote:
Morrissey'sGhost wrote:There are three reasons that a given individual may do better than another on the LSAT : (1) he really has better logical/analytical skills (2) he has better nerves and doesn't stress as much on test day and (3) he studies his ass off far more than his competitor

I love how everyone completely neglect (2) and ESPECIALLY (3) in their discussions on these boards. How do you know how long the 172 studied compared to the 169? I have a hunch that there's a good deal of Trolls on here who holed themselves up for 5 months, shunned the daylight, pounded away for hours a day at this one test, hit 172, and now have the arrogance to come on here and pronounce their unquestionable intellectual superiority over those in the 169 camp, many of whom studied for one half or less the time.

I think Berkeley's admission policy takes these factors into account. They realize that there is no real way to distinguish between the true geniouses who ace the LSAT with minimal prep and those who dedicate decades of their life to studying for this one test, who then try to pass of their work ethic as pristine intellect. Berkeley realizes that due to these totally unobservable discrepencies in prep time, the 169 with good grades, a compelling personality( as indicated by their personal statement), and substantive extracurricular/professional activities may very well be, ON AVERAGE, just as, if not more, intelligent than the 173 without those additional factors.

I feel you bro. I also hate it when people neglect those who choose to study minimally in UG. I mean come on, how do you know how long the 3.9 studied compared to the 3.1?


I think that choosing to not study for four years and get a sub 3.4 GPA is a lot more indicative of someone who will not be successful in law school than someone who who gets nervous for a test, though.


My sub-3.4 GPA (3.2) was because of particularly brutal pledging at my fraternity sophomore year.

so no.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby rundoxierun » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:03 pm

Just to get in on this.. I would turn down Yale for Boalt in a heart beat without a second thought..

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby $1.99 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:47 pm

good for you, way to make the wrong but prideful choice

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby irishman86 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:55 pm

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby booboo » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:58 pm

irishman86 wrote:
$1.99 wrote:berkeley's LSAT median is low because the school is a joke, not because they take into account other factors that the rest of the T14 ignore, boalt is not special

A Boaltie I know (not urm) spells "restaurant" as "restaraunt," which says a lot about the entrance requirements and quality of many of its students.


One person's actions says a lot about an entire institution and many of its students?

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby irishman86 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:06 pm

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby Ragged » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:13 pm

LSAT is importnat. GPA is important. Boalt is a TTT. /thread

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby rundoxierun » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:54 pm

irishman86 wrote:
$1.99 wrote:berkeley's LSAT median is low because the school is a joke, not because they take into account other factors that the rest of the T14 ignore, boalt is not special

A Boaltie I know (not urm) spells "restaurant" as "restaraunt," which says a lot about the entrance requirements and quality of many of its students.


Your sentence ends with "... which says a lot about the entrance requirements and quality of many of its students." Since we are already analyzing someone's spelling, how about we analyze your sentence structure and conclude that whatever institution you attend is a proper TTT.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby CredoUtIntellegam » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:10 am

irishman86 wrote:
$1.99 wrote:berkeley's LSAT median is low because the school is a joke, not because they take into account other factors that the rest of the T14 ignore, boalt is not special

A Boaltie I know (not urm) spells "restaurant" as "restaraunt," which says a lot about the entrance requirements and quality of many of its students.


With logic like this, you'll make a fine addition to Cooley's incoming class.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby ViP » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:17 am

ITT splitters vent their frustrations.

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby APimpNamedSlickback » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:26 pm

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Re: Boalt's LSAT Median

Postby stratocophic » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:32 pm

APimpNamedSlickback wrote:
ViP wrote:ITT splitters vent their frustrations.


itt people use laughable BOALTTTian logic.

who said i am frustrated?

And reverse splitters defend their inadequacies. Both groups are half fail.




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