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Re: Michigan 1Ls/2Ls/3Ls taking questions

Postby Entchen » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:24 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
Entchen wrote:
die Zauberflote wrote:
Entchen wrote:Er...didn't Dean Z send out an email saying the two summer start profs are Clark and Cooper, and that the three legal practice profs are Frost, Croskery-Roberts, and Osbeck?


Ha...I was looking at the 2010 schedule. Let me rephrase:

Anybody know about the Summer Start professors?

Clark and Cooper
Frost, Croskery-Roberts, and Osbeck


Clark did the mock class at ASW 1, and I also sat in on his Sports Law class. He seemed phenomenal.


Clark also went to my undergrad 8) . (It doesn't matter, I couldn't possibly out myself anymore than I already have in this thread).

Cooper went to mine :P

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Postby wolverine2014 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:05 am

So what do current Michigan Law students do with respect to health insurance? It seems the current rates are a bit high.

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Postby Entchen » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:12 am

wolverine2014 wrote:So what do current Michigan Law students do with respect to health insurance? It seems the current rates are a bit high.


My plan is to have a parent who works for the government and so covers me as long as I am a student. Sorry if that's not remotely helpful :lol:

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Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:24 am

wolverine2014 wrote:So what do current Michigan Law students do with respect to health insurance? It seems the current rates are a bit high.


I got a plan direct from Aetna for $80/month. It's not quite as inclusive but covers the major stuff. The UHS does everything up to x-rays and is included in your health fee. The University plan is $$$ because it's guaranteed acceptance.

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Postby math101 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:19 am

I was just browsing the Michigan 2011 thread, and someone mentioned three new journals (among them, an environmental law journal and a business law journal). Can any of the current students confirm this (I checked the UMich website and didn't see anything)? Also, if there are new journals, could you expand on the topic? Thanks so much!

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Postby cornellbeez » Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:33 pm

math101 wrote:I was just browsing the Michigan 2011 thread, and someone mentioned three new journals (among them, an environmental law journal and a business law journal). Can any of the current students confirm this (I checked the UMich website and didn't see anything)? Also, if there are new journals, could you expand on the topic? Thanks so much!


I can confirm the new environmental and business law journals. Not sure what the third journal is, because most of what I have heard has been through word of mouth/lawopen & the founders recruiting new editors. I don't think the school has officially released anything yet. Does anyone else know more about the journals?

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Postby die Zauberflote » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:03 am

For fall starters, are there certain classes that are always held during a 1L's first semester, or is it random (e.g., everyone has contracts first semester)?

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Postby 03121202698008 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:20 pm

die Zauberflote wrote:For fall starters, are there certain classes that are always held during a 1L's first semester, or is it random (e.g., everyone has contracts first semester)?


It varies. One prof said they were discussing making civ pro always be in the first semester but I don't think they ever made a decision.

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Postby wolverine2014 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:09 pm

Anyone familiar with Woodland Mews Condos? How about Tower Plaza?

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Postby 03121202698008 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:18 am

wolverine2014 wrote:Anyone familiar with Woodland Mews Condos? How about Tower Plaza?


Tower plaza is nice and convenient...and pricey. Each unit is individually owned so make sure you check out your specific one. From what I hear, they vary greatly in quality.

Don't know anything about Woodland Mews. The bus to it in the afternoon won't be super convenient as you'll have to walk to Main/Blake, or taket he #6 to transfer (which is always late).

Is it managed by Mckinley? I've heard bad things about them. They only do maintenance until you move in...then won't come back, etc.

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Postby wolverine2014 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:43 pm

blowhard wrote:
wolverine2014 wrote:Anyone familiar with Woodland Mews Condos? How about Tower Plaza?


Tower plaza is nice and convenient...and pricey. Each unit is individually owned so make sure you check out your specific one. From what I hear, they vary greatly in quality.

Don't know anything about Woodland Mews. The bus to it in the afternoon won't be super convenient as you'll have to walk to Main/Blake, or taket he #6 to transfer (which is always late).

Is it managed by Mckinley? I've heard bad things about them. They only do maintenance until you move in...then won't come back, etc.



Thanks....yes, it is managed by Mckinley. Do you know if many law students live in Tower Plaza?

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Postby buckilaw » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:31 pm

Do summer starters need to attend the fall orientation week, August 29-September 2? I may try to plan a small vacation, but if I have to attend the fall orientation week I don't think a vacation would be feasible.

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Postby thalassocrat » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:24 pm

buckilaw wrote:Do summer starters need to attend the fall orientation week, August 29-September 2? I may try to plan a small vacation, but if I have to attend the fall orientation week I don't think a vacation would be feasible.


No, you get your own orientation before your classes start.

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Postby buckilaw » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:40 pm

Thanks. I was 99% certain that was the case, but wanted to make sure.

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Postby vidhartha » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:09 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
Entchen wrote:
die Zauberflote wrote:
Entchen wrote:Er...didn't Dean Z send out an email saying the two summer start profs are Clark and Cooper, and that the three legal practice profs are Frost, Croskery-Roberts, and Osbeck?


Ha...I was looking at the 2010 schedule. Let me rephrase:

Anybody know about the Summer Start professors?

Clark and Cooper
Frost, Croskery-Roberts, and Osbeck


Clark did the mock class at ASW 1, and I also sat in on his Sports Law class. He seemed phenomenal.


Clark also went to my undergrad 8) . (It doesn't matter, I couldn't possibly out myself anymore than I already have in this thread).


Clark is great as a professor for first years. He is very clear and concise and not too difficult when cold calling. The problem with him being so clear is that makes the curve very tight - get a good outline He has been teaching Torts (I assume it's Torts) forever and has been using the same jokes/material forever. He is a big gym rat, so one way to get to know him better is to set up weekly basketball games and invite him. He came out a lot during my summer to play ball and even brought his daughters a few times.

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Postby math101 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:00 am

vidhartha wrote:Clark is great as a professor for first years. He is very clear and concise and not too difficult when cold calling. The problem with him being so clear is that makes the curve very tight - get a good outline He has been teaching Torts (I assume it's Torts) forever and has been using the same jokes/material forever. He is a big gym rat, so one way to get to know him better is to set up weekly basketball games and invite him. He came out a lot during my summer to play ball and even brought his daughters a few times.


Speaking of gyms, which one do you guys like best: the Intramural Sports Building, the Central Campus Recreation Building, or the Ross Business School Gym? Or in other words, can you guys tell me anything y'all know about any one of those gyms? Thanks so much!

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Postby thalassocrat » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:15 am

math101 wrote:
vidhartha wrote:Clark is great as a professor for first years. He is very clear and concise and not too difficult when cold calling. The problem with him being so clear is that makes the curve very tight - get a good outline He has been teaching Torts (I assume it's Torts) forever and has been using the same jokes/material forever. He is a big gym rat, so one way to get to know him better is to set up weekly basketball games and invite him. He came out a lot during my summer to play ball and even brought his daughters a few times.


Speaking of gyms, which one do you guys like best: the Intramural Sports Building, the Central Campus Recreation Building, or the Ross Business School Gym? Or in other words, can you guys tell me anything y'all know about any one of those gyms? Thanks so much!


People who use the b-school gym seem to like it. The classes there are free with a membership and it's really, really close. That being said, you do have to pay to use it. I was too cheap (and only recently started going back to the gym anyway), so I am not a member there.

I usually go to the CCRB because it's open earliest (6 am weekdays), so I can go before class. It's got exercise machines, weights, and squash courts; there's also a pool there, which I'm not sure if the other two gyms have. It's technically the farthest away from the quad; it takes me about ten minutes walking across the diag to get there. I will say I've never had to wait for a machine, but that may be a factor of when I'm going (earlier in the morning or later at night). That is including the few times I've gone right after dinner on weeknights or closer to lunch on weekends.

The IMSB is the one I know the least about. I've played basketball there once or twice (and it's where the student-faculty basketball game is held). It's also technically closest but doesn't open until 9 on weekdays, which is kind of useless if I'm trying to go before my 9 am class (which, funnily enough, is with Clark, keeping this topical).

E: I should say I am not a gym rat at all, so this might not be particularly helpful anyway.

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Postby yoitsmebenny » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:24 pm

thalassocrat wrote:
math101 wrote:
vidhartha wrote:Clark is great as a professor for first years. He is very clear and concise and not too difficult when cold calling. The problem with him being so clear is that makes the curve very tight - get a good outline He has been teaching Torts (I assume it's Torts) forever and has been using the same jokes/material forever. He is a big gym rat, so one way to get to know him better is to set up weekly basketball games and invite him. He came out a lot during my summer to play ball and even brought his daughters a few times.


Speaking of gyms, which one do you guys like best: the Intramural Sports Building, the Central Campus Recreation Building, or the Ross Business School Gym? Or in other words, can you guys tell me anything y'all know about any one of those gyms? Thanks so much!


People who use the b-school gym seem to like it. The classes there are free with a membership and it's really, really close. That being said, you do have to pay to use it. I was too cheap (and only recently started going back to the gym anyway), so I am not a member there.

I usually go to the CCRB because it's open earliest (6 am weekdays), so I can go before class. It's got exercise machines, weights, and squash courts; there's also a pool there, which I'm not sure if the other two gyms have. It's technically the farthest away from the quad; it takes me about ten minutes walking across the diag to get there. I will say I've never had to wait for a machine, but that may be a factor of when I'm going (earlier in the morning or later at night). That is including the few times I've gone right after dinner on weeknights or closer to lunch on weekends.

The IMSB is the one I know the least about. I've played basketball there once or twice (and it's where the student-faculty basketball game is held). It's also technically closest but doesn't open until 9 on weekdays, which is kind of useless if I'm trying to go before my 9 am class (which, funnily enough, is with Clark, keeping this topical).

E: I should say I am not a gym rat at all, so this might not be particularly helpful anyway.


Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?

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Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:38 pm

yoitsmebenny wrote:
thalassocrat wrote:
math101 wrote:
vidhartha wrote:Clark is great as a professor for first years. He is very clear and concise and not too difficult when cold calling. The problem with him being so clear is that makes the curve very tight - get a good outline He has been teaching Torts (I assume it's Torts) forever and has been using the same jokes/material forever. He is a big gym rat, so one way to get to know him better is to set up weekly basketball games and invite him. He came out a lot during my summer to play ball and even brought his daughters a few times.


Speaking of gyms, which one do you guys like best: the Intramural Sports Building, the Central Campus Recreation Building, or the Ross Business School Gym? Or in other words, can you guys tell me anything y'all know about any one of those gyms? Thanks so much!


People who use the b-school gym seem to like it. The classes there are free with a membership and it's really, really close. That being said, you do have to pay to use it. I was too cheap (and only recently started going back to the gym anyway), so I am not a member there.

I usually go to the CCRB because it's open earliest (6 am weekdays), so I can go before class. It's got exercise machines, weights, and squash courts; there's also a pool there, which I'm not sure if the other two gyms have. It's technically the farthest away from the quad; it takes me about ten minutes walking across the diag to get there. I will say I've never had to wait for a machine, but that may be a factor of when I'm going (earlier in the morning or later at night). That is including the few times I've gone right after dinner on weeknights or closer to lunch on weekends.

The IMSB is the one I know the least about. I've played basketball there once or twice (and it's where the student-faculty basketball game is held). It's also technically closest but doesn't open until 9 on weekdays, which is kind of useless if I'm trying to go before my 9 am class (which, funnily enough, is with Clark, keeping this topical).

E: I should say I am not a gym rat at all, so this might not be particularly helpful anyway.


Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?


The cold makes you burn more calories, bro.

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Postby thalassocrat » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:27 pm

yoitsmebenny wrote:Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?


Ah yea, I believe both the IMSB & the CCRB have one. For those interested, there's a chart of what's available at each of the gyms (excluding b-school) here: http://www.recsports.umich.edu/faciliti ... tions.html

I assume there's a list for the b-school gym on their website as well, if you're curious.

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Postby Joan Hollaway » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:12 am

thalassocrat wrote:
yoitsmebenny wrote:Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?


Ah yea, I believe both the IMSB & the CCRB have one. For those interested, there's a chart of what's available at each of the gyms (excluding b-school) here: http://www.recsports.umich.edu/faciliti ... tions.html

I assume there's a list for the b-school gym on their website as well, if you're curious.


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Link for the b-school gym.
I have a membership and love it. Super convenient if you live in the LC cause its like a 2 minute walk and I probably wouldn't go at all in the winter if i had to walk more than 5 minutes to get there. :lol:

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Postby math101 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:59 am

Joan Hollaway wrote:
thalassocrat wrote:
yoitsmebenny wrote:Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?


Ah yea, I believe both the IMSB & the CCRB have one. For those interested, there's a chart of what's available at each of the gyms (excluding b-school) here: http://www.recsports.umich.edu/faciliti ... tions.html

I assume there's a list for the b-school gym on their website as well, if you're curious.


--LinkRemoved--

Link for the b-school gym.
I have a membership and love it. Super convenient if you live in the LC cause its like a 2 minute walk and I probably wouldn't go at all in the winter if i had to walk more than 5 minutes to get there. :lol:


For the B-school link and non-students: I found that (at least on Firefox) the website will kick you off because you do not yet have a log-in. If you hit 'stop' before it loads completely, you can browse the portions of the page that don't require a log-in.

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Postby puppylaw » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:20 am

math101 wrote:
Joan Hollaway wrote:
thalassocrat wrote:
yoitsmebenny wrote:Is there an indoor track somewhere (for the winter...)?


Ah yea, I believe both the IMSB & the CCRB have one. For those interested, there's a chart of what's available at each of the gyms (excluding b-school) here: http://www.recsports.umich.edu/faciliti ... tions.html

I assume there's a list for the b-school gym on their website as well, if you're curious.


--LinkRemoved--

Link for the b-school gym.
I have a membership and love it. Super convenient if you live in the LC cause its like a 2 minute walk and I probably wouldn't go at all in the winter if i had to walk more than 5 minutes to get there. :lol:


For the B-school link and non-students: I found that (at least on Firefox) the website will kick you off because you do not yet have a log-in. If you hit 'stop' before it loads completely, you can browse the portions of the page that don't require a log-in.


There's a 1/8 mile indoor track at the Central Campus Recreation Building and a 1/4 mile indoor track behind the IntraMural Sports Building.

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Postby dabbadon8 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:50 am

Was looking at the site map on the umich page trying to see if the deposit could be paid online. Clicked on a link for exam tips out of sheer curiosity and saw some sample exam questions. Those kind of blew my mind. Not that I couldn't imagine being able to complete them but I was shocked how subjective they seemed for something that is so important. They were also intimidating in how open ended some were. Never knew what a law school exam looked like before so excuse me if this sounds stupid.

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Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:49 am

dabbadon8 wrote:Was looking at the site map on the umich page trying to see if the deposit could be paid online. Clicked on a link for exam tips out of sheer curiosity and saw some sample exam questions. Those kind of blew my mind. Not that I couldn't imagine being able to complete them but I was shocked how subjective they seemed for something that is so important. They were also intimidating in how open ended some were. Never knew what a law school exam looked like before so excuse me if this sounds stupid.


I looked this up. The one about the abortion clinic was ridiculous




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