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Re: Michigan 1Ls/2Ls/3Ls taking questions

Postby NZA » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:56 pm

FlightoftheEarls wrote:
keg411 wrote:^

Stop making me wish I took Public Corp last semester :(. Wouldn't have had to suffer through PR either, which would have been a double benefit. But that's all my own fault. I did an awful job of constructing my schedule last semester.

Haha, my bad. I'm a pretty big Pritchard fan, and I think he gets a worse reputation than he deserves. He's definitely not for everybody, but he's an incredible teacher if you have thick skin. If I'm being completely honest, I think those people who have a problem with Pritchard are in for a very rude awakening if they ever practice corporate law/M&A where they'll be dealing with aggressive bankers on the reg.

NZA wrote:Thanks, both of you. Damn. Is Pritchard any more crazy than Krier? Because I have Krier right now, and I feel like people exaggerated his craziness.

I've never had Krier, actually. What I've heard, though, is Krier might be a little more of the random/cursing kind of "crazy". Pritchard isn't crazy, he's just very bright and won't put up with touchy-feely, bullshit answers. He rarely gives hypotheticals that should be argued one way and then the other and allow you to discuss your feelings or go on an obnoxious tangent with some ridiculous policy argument. Instead, his hypotheticals generally require a correct answer, and then he'll change up the in-class hypotheticals and make you reanalyze the issue from a very different direction. You learn a ton doing it, and he won't hesitate to give you shit (and dock your grade) if your section is on call (everyone is fair game only one day per week) and you aren't adequately prepared for that day.

Have you noticed how every now and then people who aren't prepared (I've done this myself) try to rephrase the cold-call question to the professor to have them repeat it in a way that leads you to the correct answer, or that even just gives you the correct answer? That won't work on him - he knows his question is clear enough, and he'll just stare at you. It may sound scary, but I find it unbelievably refreshing.


Nice. Thanks again for the advice! I agree with you about that teaching style: I hate it when people get away with bullshit answers. Argh, hard decision, though. I think if it were any other class, I'd jump at the chance to have a professor like Pritchard, but I'm just not too confident I'll be able to do well with the subject matter. :?

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Re: Michigan 1Ls/2Ls/3Ls taking questions

Postby Joan Hollaway » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:59 pm

Khanna is way overrated. I have him right now and we still don't have a syllabus, he's cancelled weeks of class and rescheduled it on Friday nights, and he generally is not very well prepared. He's very engaging and nice but I actually prefer Pritchard.

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Postby keg411 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:03 pm

FlightoftheEarls wrote:He rarely gives hypotheticals that should be argued one way and then the other and allow you to discuss your feelings or go on an obnoxious tangent with some ridiculous policy argument.


OTOH, if you want a professor who will let you discuss your feelings, take Sanders for anything (I think he's teaching Constitutional Interpretation next semester, but I have him for Family Law now). He's probably one of the most relaxing professors I've ever had -- and I mean this in a very, very good way.

Also, I'm not in Khanna's SecReg, but I've heard about the clusterfuck going on in that class.

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Postby UnamSanctam » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:23 pm

Just wanted to drop by and say I'm really enjoying this discussion you guys have going. My 0L status means I have zero exposure to these professors, and as someone who can roll with a punch, I really appreciate when professors don't coddle students. Are there others like him?

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Postby planeride » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:42 am

Another 0L question. A maximum of 12 credits can be applied to courses in other schools. Realistically, how many classes is that -- I assume 3 or 4? What's the typical credit load for a semester?

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Postby JoeMo » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:56 am

This one might go down as a dumb question because it's probably out there somewhere if I bother to look but because summer starters would be entering 2L year in the spring term next year would we be able to try and participate in a clinic that early? Or would we still have to wait until Fall?

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Postby 03121202698008 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:14 am

planeride wrote:Another 0L question. A maximum of 12 credits can be applied to courses in other schools. Realistically, how many classes is that -- I assume 3 or 4? What's the typical credit load for a semester?


12 to 15. Usually around 13. You need permission for more than 16.

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Postby ScrabbleChamp » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:03 pm

JoeMo wrote:This one might go down as a dumb question because it's probably out there somewhere if I bother to look but because summer starters would be entering 2L year in the spring term next year would we be able to try and participate in a clinic that early? Or would we still have to wait until Fall?


What I was told by a previous summer starter is that summer starters can apply for clinics in their 3rd semester (winter term 2013 for us), but we may not get a seat as preference goes to 3Ls, then 2Ls, etc...

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Postby JoeMo » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:18 pm

ScrabbleChamp wrote:
JoeMo wrote:This one might go down as a dumb question because it's probably out there somewhere if I bother to look but because summer starters would be entering 2L year in the spring term next year would we be able to try and participate in a clinic that early? Or would we still have to wait until Fall?


What I was told by a previous summer starter is that summer starters can apply for clinics in their 3rd semester (winter term 2013 for us), but we may not get a seat as preference goes to 3Ls, then 2Ls, etc...


That makes sense.

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Postby whirledpeas86 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:47 pm

Hey, does anyone remember the URL for the website where michlaw students write up reviews of the professors?

Found it! http://www.lawprofguide.com/


Follow up question, has anyone taken transnat with Ratner or Reimann and have opinions to share? Or is there another, more awesome prof I should wait to teach transnat?
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Postby cylon_clone » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:48 pm

Duke Law has a softball league. Does Michigan have softball or some sort of fun sporting league for students?

Above The Law's annual "Law Revue Contest" - is there a formal group in charge of that and/or are students planning on submitting a vid this year?

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Postby whirledpeas86 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:36 am

So, I think I'm going to take Criminal Justice: Police Practices with Lady Primus (love herrr), Employment Discrim with Katz, Transnat with Reimann, and the Policing/Public Safety seminar with Saul Green and Judith Levy. Thoughts?

Are there circumstances under which I could get away with Not taking Jurisdiction next year (I had Cooper for Civ Pro and he didn't teach any jx)? If I could put JX off until 3L (orrrrr just not take it), I'd be able to take the juvenile justice clinic, evidence with Clark, and EO with Davis next Winter semester.


*Sigh* I am thinking about this way too hard.

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Postby keg411 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:44 am

whirledpeas86 wrote:So, I think I'm going to take Criminal Justice: Police Practices with Lady Primus (love herrr), Employment Discrim with Katz, Transnat with Reimann, and the Policing/Public Safety seminar with Saul Green and Judith Levy. Thoughts?

Are there circumstances under which I could get away with Not taking Jurisdiction next year (I had Cooper for Civ Pro and he didn't teach any jx)? If I could put JX off until 3L (orrrrr just not take it), I'd be able to take the juvenile justice clinic, evidence with Clark, and EO with Davis next Winter semester.

*Sigh* I am thinking about this way too hard.


Peas, that schedule sounds fine. And also you're not the only one that's been schedule stressing, so don't feel bad about it :lol:. But if you don't want to take any other corporate classes, you can put off EO until 3L and always do JX in the winter.

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Postby JoeMo » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Hey guys, during our 3 years of law school please try not to turn into the next Sandra Fluke. K-Thx.

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Postby jfish » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 pm

JoeMo wrote:Hey guys, during our 3 years of law school please try not to turn into the next Sandra Fluke. K-Thx.


What? Rush Limbaugh, is that you?

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Postby JoeMo » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:01 pm

jfish wrote:
JoeMo wrote:Hey guys, during our 3 years of law school please try not to turn into the next Sandra Fluke. K-Thx.


What? Rush Limbaugh, is that you?


Hahahahahaha... no. She's just getting so bludgeoned in the media and I'd hate for one of my classmates to be put through the ringer that way. Nice of her to be a martyr but I don't want any of you guys to go through the same thing (assuming, of course, I don't become that person).

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Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:08 pm

JoeMo wrote:
jfish wrote:
JoeMo wrote:Hey guys, during our 3 years of law school please try not to turn into the next Sandra Fluke. K-Thx.


What? Rush Limbaugh, is that you?


Hahahahahaha... no. She's just getting so bludgeoned in the media and I'd hate for one of my classmates to be put through the ringer that way. Nice of her to be a martyr but I don't want any of you guys to go through the same thing (assuming, of course, I don't become that person).


Eh, sometimes that happens when you stand up for a cause you believe in. Sad...but I wouldn't not advocate for my beliefs because of the possibility.

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Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:21 pm

cylon_clone wrote:Duke Law has a softball league. Does Michigan have softball or some sort of fun sporting league for students?

Above The Law's annual "Law Revue Contest" - is there a formal group in charge of that and/or are students planning on submitting a vid this year?

I don't think that the law school has one but law students get together and form teams for intermural sports. I did softball and football and I know a good number of people that do basketball.

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Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:23 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
cylon_clone wrote:Duke Law has a softball league. Does Michigan have softball or some sort of fun sporting league for students?

Above The Law's annual "Law Revue Contest" - is there a formal group in charge of that and/or are students planning on submitting a vid this year?

I don't think that the law school has one but law students get together and form teams for intermural sports. I did softball and football and I know a good number of people that do basketball.


Last year, there was also an internal half-assed kickball league that was more about the beer. Not sure if they continued it.

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Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:23 pm

blowhard wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
cylon_clone wrote:Duke Law has a softball league. Does Michigan have softball or some sort of fun sporting league for students?

Above The Law's annual "Law Revue Contest" - is there a formal group in charge of that and/or are students planning on submitting a vid this year?

I don't think that the law school has one but law students get together and form teams for intermural sports. I did softball and football and I know a good number of people that do basketball.


Last year, there was also an internal half-assed kickball league that was more about the beer. Not sure if they continued it.


Yeah, I hear Phid cleaned house at that jaunt 8)

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Re: Michigan 1Ls/2Ls/3Ls taking questions

Postby DaftAndDirect » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:34 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
blowhard wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
cylon_clone wrote:Duke Law has a softball league. Does Michigan have softball or some sort of fun sporting league for students?

Above The Law's annual "Law Revue Contest" - is there a formal group in charge of that and/or are students planning on submitting a vid this year?

I don't think that the law school has one but law students get together and form teams for intermural sports. I did softball and football and I know a good number of people that do basketball.


Last year, there was also an internal half-assed kickball league that was more about the beer. Not sure if they continued it.


Yeah, I hear Phid cleaned house at that jaunt 8)


AreJay you're in Phid? 99% sure I'm applying in the next few days.

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Postby NZA » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:03 pm

DaftAndDirect wrote:AreJay you're in Phid? 99% sure I'm applying in the next few days.

Is he in the phid? Puhlease! AreJay is the phid master. ;)

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Postby AreJay711 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:06 pm

DaftAndDirect wrote:AreJay you're in Phid? 99% sure I'm applying in the next few days.


Do it. It is a great place to live.

NZA wrote:
DaftAndDirect wrote:AreJay you're in Phid? 99% sure I'm applying in the next few days.

Is he in the phid? Puhlease! AreJay is the phid master. ;)


Only when shenanigans are involved.

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Postby ketchup » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:49 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions for apartments/houses to look at over Preview Weekend? I have a dog and would like to bike to campus (walking would be nice... I'd settle for an easy bus ride at this point)? Is this still possible? This housing business always flusters me. Thanks!




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