sirchristaylor wrote: Rotor wrote:
Tangerine Gleam wrote:Cool, thanks. I guess I will make my plans just assuming that I have class on Friday. Do you remember around when you received your schedule? Is it over the summer, or right before school starts? I'm wondering if I can afford to wait to buy my plane ticket or if I should just take the plunge now.
When the 1L classes post, you can figure when 1L classes are in general, but you won't know to which Mod you get assigned until orientation when you get your actual schedule.
That said, most of the profs are pretty cool about missing a class here and there. If you do have Friday classes (likely) just talk with the prof(s) and explain the situation. Shouldn't be a big issue.
I received a welcome email on 4/20 from Dean Tom that mentioned: "You will be assigned by the Admissions Office to one of nine class schedule modules. We will attempt to accommodate only students who have childcare and medical needs by assigning them to modules with early release times. We cannot guarantee that all module schedules will be amenable as they change from year to year. Please send your special requests before June 30 to firstname.lastname@example.org
You get your schedule at orientation. For anyone who is worried about missing one class, it's really not a big deal. It's very likely you would only have classes on Friday morning anyway. If it's LRW that you'll miss, your instructor likely teaches 2 sections of it and so you can arrange to go on a different day.
black celebration wrote:You guys are so great. Thank you thank you thank you. I have more inquiries; thanks in advance to anyone with enough patience to continue to help out!
1) I would already have CA residency by my 1L summer. Will this make it even easier to leave for the summer and maintain residency -- if they know that I already lived in California before applying to Boalt and that I therefore intend to stay + work here afterward? Also, I am hoping/wondering if international opportunities would be different (i.e., working in The Netherlands for a summer is less of a thread to my CA residency than working in NYC or DC)? I think I would only leave California for the summer if it was for another country.
2) On that note, can anyone speak to the abundance of 1L summer international externship opportunities? This was a strong point of Michigan; I talked with their Dean of Int'l Affairs and she told me about all of the great options I would have for summer work abroad. I get the impression that this sort of thing is not as common at Boalt...but I hope I am wrong!
3) How easy is it to get an "Edley Grant" for your 1L summer? Does it have to be specifically for non-profit/gov't work, or does it just have to be unpaid? The school makes it sound like it's easy, but I'd like to hear from students how competitive this process really is.
4) Have any of you worked in clinics? What is the general "word on the street" about the quality of the clinics? I am especially interested in the Death Penalty and International Human Rights Clinics -- but I have yet to encounter students involved in either. This is another factor pulling me towards Michigan -- they offer more clinics, and in some more specialized areas of interest to me.
5) Clerkships. I hear the grading system makes it harder to obtain clerkships. Jockeying for a federal clerkship is one thing I know for sure I want to do after law school, and I am bummed that Michigan (I think) does better than Boalt in this regard. How competitive is this process? Do lots of students go for it? If clerking depends less on class/rank, what do Boalt students tend to do in order to distinguish themselves otherwise?
6) Is it super hard to get onto the primary law journal? And are grades a factor, or is it only via a write-on?
1. You can still get residency if you're doing a job you couldn't do in CA. So, if your job is at the Hague, you can likely get it. Not so if you go to a legal aid office because you can do that here. They are huge sticklers about the residency thing though, so don't count on it 100%. If you are concerned, when you get here set up an appointment to talk to the residency office. It also helps if you stay here for Thanksgiving, winter, and spring break.
2. I don't see how Michigan would have opportunities different from any other top 10 school for this. Internships are, for the vast majority, set up by the student. The school might be able to help you by giving you some ideas or some contacts, but the applications are 100% you. We send tons of people abroad in the summer, and I would imagine it's the same at Michigan and other similar schools. If you want to go abroad, just talk to 2Ls and 3Ls who did it last year and research opportunities.
3. It's not competitive, you do 25 pro bono hours in student run clinics during the year. There are also other competitive summer fellowships you can apply for. It has to be legal work supervised by a lawyer, in a public interest or government setting. Working for a judge does not qualify.
4. I haven't, but I will be doing one of them. I've heard nothing but good things. There are also a lot of other practicums and externship opportunities if the clinics don't appeal to you. I don't know if Michigan allows this, but one of the advantages of Berkeley over other schools is the opportunity to get involved with student run clinics your first year. You can represent asylees, educate kids in juvenile hall, do a worker's rights clinic, etc. all during 1L. Being in the bay area, there are also a lot more places to extern and intern than you would have at Michigan just based on geography.