Chicago Law Class of 2017

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Rahviveh » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:21 pm

WheninLaw wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I think the green line is shady as fuck too. I would just take the el from Lincoln park to state street below the river and hop on a six. The six will still give you a fifteen minute walk to the school and it's a much nicer walk.


The green line is not shady. The walk from 63rd-->60th definitely is, but be smart about it (don't play with your phone, etc.) and it is fine. I do that walk a couple times a week and nothing has ever happened.

We have diff standards of what is shady. If you can't freely use your phone in the open then you are in a shady area.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:44 pm

Rahviveh wrote:
WheninLaw wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I think the green line is shady as fuck too. I would just take the el from Lincoln park to state street below the river and hop on a six. The six will still give you a fifteen minute walk to the school and it's a much nicer walk.


The green line is not shady. The walk from 63rd-->60th definitely is, but be smart about it (don't play with your phone, etc.) and it is fine. I do that walk a couple times a week and nothing has ever happened.

We have diff standards of what is shady. If you can't freely use your phone in the open then you are in a shady area.


Lol agreed.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby WheninLaw » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:57 pm

Rahviveh wrote:
WheninLaw wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I think the green line is shady as fuck too. I would just take the el from Lincoln park to state street below the river and hop on a six. The six will still give you a fifteen minute walk to the school and it's a much nicer walk.


The green line is not shady. The walk from 63rd-->60th definitely is, but be smart about it (don't play with your phone, etc.) and it is fine. I do that walk a couple times a week and nothing has ever happened.

We have diff standards of what is shady. If you can't freely use your phone in the open then you are in a shady area.


You realize none of that is inconsistent with what I said

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:02 pm

See kids! U Chicago students are great!

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:16 pm

I have figured this out for you, random admit. You should take the 151 bus down to Michigan and Washington. You can get off and walk one block to State street and take the 6 line to 60th street. Get off and you are on the same street as the law school.

The school advises people not to take the green line. So even if you are alert and shit like wheninlaw suggests I wouldn't want that to be my first impression of the school and Hyde Park. Especially since even if you survive the green line, it still leaves you with the 63rd to 60th walk that, by wheninlaw's ridiculous war zone standards, is shady.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby kathj06 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:26 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:I have figured this out for you, random admit. You should take the 151 bus down to Michigan and Washington. You can get off and walk one block to State street and take the 6 line to 60th street. Get off and you are on the same street as the law school.

The school advises people not to take the green line. So even if you are alert and shit like wheninlaw suggests I wouldn't want that to be my first impression of the school and Hyde Park. Especially since even if you survive the green line, it still leaves you with the 63rd to 60th walk that, by wheninlaw's ridiculous war zone standards, isn't shady.


lol--random admit here--I very much appreciate the advice (and apologize for inciting debate!)
When I looked back at google maps I noticed that even google had a warning about the route being potentially unsuitable for walking lol. That, plus fun with google street view, dissuaded me from adventures on the green line on this particular weekend. Granted I just moved from a sketchy AF neighborhood in dc where I always had mace and one of those hidden travel wallets handy after dark! Thanks again.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby 20141023 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:36 pm

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby WheninLaw » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:40 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:I have figured this out for you, random admit. You should take the 151 bus down to Michigan and Washington. You can get off and walk one block to State street and take the 6 line to 60th street. Get off and you are on the same street as the law school.

The school advises people not to take the green line. So even if you are alert and shit like wheninlaw suggests I wouldn't want that to be my first impression of the school and Hyde Park. Especially since even if you survive the green line, it still leaves you with the 63rd to 60th walk that, by wheninlaw's ridiculous war zone standards, is shady.


Does the school seriously advise people not to take the green line?

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby snappysalmons » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:00 pm

Did any one else get an email yesterday that said that they wouldn't be able to consider your scholarship appeal until April 15?

I'm hoping that's because they want to give me a Ruby :lol:

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby bearsfan23 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:38 am

WheninLaw wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I have figured this out for you, random admit. You should take the 151 bus down to Michigan and Washington. You can get off and walk one block to State street and take the 6 line to 60th street. Get off and you are on the same street as the law school.

The school advises people not to take the green line. So even if you are alert and shit like wheninlaw suggests I wouldn't want that to be my first impression of the school and Hyde Park. Especially since even if you survive the green line, it still leaves you with the 63rd to 60th walk that, by wheninlaw's ridiculous war zone standards, is shady.


Does the school seriously advise people not to take the green line?


I mean, I've lived in Chicago almost my entire life and the Green Line is universally thought of as a bad idea by Chicago residents. I just don't see any reason to take it over the Red Line, esp w/the new Red Line improvements the Red Line is actually much faster, plus its pretty easy to just catch the 55 bus over to Hyde Park from the Garfield station.

That being said, during daylight hours I think the Green Line and walking to/from it are fine, but it really just depends how comfortable you are with the city.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby cotiger » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:54 am

bearsfan23 wrote:I mean, I've lived in Chicago almost my entire life and the Green Line is universally thought of as a bad idea by Chicago residents. I just don't see any reason to take it over the Red Line, esp w/the new Red Line improvements the Red Line is actually much faster, plus its pretty easy to just catch the 55 bus over to Hyde Park from the Garfield station.

That being said, during daylight hours I think the Green Line and walking to/from it are fine, but it really just depends how comfortable you are with the city.


The Cottage Grove station is literally two blocks from campus. I think I'll take my chances :lol:

Ridiculous.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby c0llegeStUd3nt » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:28 am

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Mal Reynolds » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:55 am

c0llegeStUd3nt wrote:anyone think it's awkward going to bar review thursday night knowing no one, or will this not be weird?

(maybe a weird question)


Go to the regents pregame first. Regents is giving you guys free alcohol and you can meet up with other 0Ls. Not weird either way though.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby hdunlop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:19 am

cotiger wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:I mean, I've lived in Chicago almost my entire life and the Green Line is universally thought of as a bad idea by Chicago residents. I just don't see any reason to take it over the Red Line, esp w/the new Red Line improvements the Red Line is actually much faster, plus its pretty easy to just catch the 55 bus over to Hyde Park from the Garfield station.

That being said, during daylight hours I think the Green Line and walking to/from it are fine, but it really just depends how comfortable you are with the city.


The Cottage Grove station is literally two blocks from campus. I think I'll take my chances :lol:

Ridiculous.


What's ridiculous is that, after admitting to having not walked around Chicago, you're telling a life-long resident what to think about the city. He didn't even say it was scary and terrible and dangerous, he just said it's a bad idea relative to the other options, and it is.

63rd is three blocks. You'll almost certainly be fine; the reason not to take the Green Line during the day is because it sucks, not because it's particularly dangerous. At night it's also probably fine, until the time it isn't. If you've been mugged and liked it, go for it. If not, considering Metra is faster and almost as close and Red Line+bus is about as fast and just as close, why bother? Bravado?

The walk from Garfield is sketchy as fuck. "Oh but it's just across a park." That park looks like a DMZ. Again, on any individual walk you'ld figure to be verbally harassed at worst, but if you do it often enough (or if you're on your phone looking at a map all confused because you're doing it for the first time and don't know where you are) it's going to end badly.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby cotiger » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:55 am

hdunlop wrote:
cotiger wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:I mean, I've lived in Chicago almost my entire life and the Green Line is universally thought of as a bad idea by Chicago residents. I just don't see any reason to take it over the Red Line, esp w/the new Red Line improvements the Red Line is actually much faster, plus its pretty easy to just catch the 55 bus over to Hyde Park from the Garfield station.

That being said, during daylight hours I think the Green Line and walking to/from it are fine, but it really just depends how comfortable you are with the city.


The Cottage Grove station is literally two blocks from campus. I think I'll take my chances :lol:

Ridiculous.


What's ridiculous is that, after admitting to having not walked around Chicago, you're telling a life-long resident what to think about the city. He didn't even say it was scary and terrible and dangerous, he just said it's a bad idea relative to the other options, and it is.

63rd is three blocks. You'll almost certainly be fine; the reason not to take the Green Line during the day is because it sucks, not because it's particularly dangerous. At night it's also probably fine, until the time it isn't. If you've been mugged and liked it, go for it. If not, considering Metra is faster and almost as close and Red Line+bus is about as fast and just as close, why bother? Bravado?

The walk from Garfield is sketchy as fuck. "Oh but it's just across a park." That park looks like a DMZ. Again, on any individual walk you'ld figure to be verbally harassed at worst, but if you do it often enough (or if you're on your phone looking at a map all confused because you're doing it for the first time and don't know where you are) it's going to end badly.


I'm sorry, you're right, that was presumptuous. I guess it's just difficult for me to fathom because I've never lived in a place where you have to be fearful walking two blocks, or where it's actually sound advice to avoid a subway line altogether. My frame of reference is Manhattanites calling crappy parts of Brooklyn sketchy and dangerous, when really they're just run-down and contain lower-class brown people. Considering Chicago's crime stats, there's a very high chance that it really is different. I'm think I'm so resistant to thinking like that because it sucks to have those considerations constrain what you can do. :(

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby orangec90 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:42 am

c0llegeStUd3nt wrote:anyone think it's awkward going to bar review thursday night knowing no one, or will this not be weird?

(maybe a weird question)


I'm planning on going! My host actually encouraged it. I'm sure others will too (and I'm not going to the pregame beforehand)

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby hdunlop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:55 am

cotiger wrote:I'm sorry, you're right, that was presumptuous. I guess it's just difficult for me to fathom because I've never lived in a place where you have to be fearful walking two blocks, or where it's actually sound advice to avoid a subway line altogether. My frame of reference is Manhattanites calling crappy parts of Brooklyn sketchy and dangerous, when really they're just run-down and contain lower-class brown people. Considering Chicago's crime stats, there's a very high chance that it really is different. I'm think I'm so resistant to thinking like that because it sucks to have those considerations constrain what you can do. :(


I'm in DC now and hear the same sort of thing all the time. "Oh it's so sketchy," by which people mean there are bars on the windows. I guess in my own parlance "sketchy" and "dangerous" are two different things, the former being like "don't wave your phone around or walk around super drunk" and the latter being "avoid." When I hear interns be like OMG such-and-such is sooo sketchy it makes me shake my head, particularly considering some of those areas actually were five years ago.

I don't think of Chicago as being a dangerous city at all but there are parts that are. I can't classify with great confidence either 63rd or Garfield but I can say that the former seemed to me more like what you're talking about in Brooklyn and I'm talking about in DC -- stay sharp, basically, and avoid at night until you know what you're doing -- and the latter seemed more like wow I'm glad I'm driving instead of walking by these groups of kids wearing matching clothes staring angrily.

The good news is that whole park seriously looked like a DMZ so it doesn't constrain you from many options you'ld otherwise be rushing to embrace. There was a comfort food restaurant down on 63rd that looked fantastic though.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby orangec90 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:22 pm

LOVED my weekend! Don't know where the competitive rep comes from - every student I met was great. And the faculty wow.

Anyone else?

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby random number » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:03 pm

orangec90 wrote:LOVED my weekend! Don't know where the competitive rep comes from - every student I met was great. And the faculty wow.

Anyone else?


Absolutely! I was impressed by every aspect of the school and loved Chicago and Hyde Park.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby applelover » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:04 pm

random number wrote:
orangec90 wrote:LOVED my weekend! Don't know where the competitive rep comes from - every student I met was great. And the faculty wow.

Anyone else?


Absolutely! I was impressed by every aspect of the school and loved Chicago and Hyde Park.


+1 I committed at ASW because I loved it so much.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby elterrible78 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:02 pm

Glad to hear some of you guys enjoyed ASW so much. I know current students certainly enjoyed meeting you all, and are looking forward to seeing you around next year.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:12 pm

Yeah everyone I met was really nice. I hope you guys came to trivia because that shit was amazing. Also i definitely met a TLSer at the regents thing. He kept on saying models and bottles and other buzz words.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby random number » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:45 pm

Trivia was great - thanks for the tip Mal! I think that I also may have met a TLSer or two (among both the 0Ls and 1Ls), but I'm not positive.

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Re: Chicago Law Class of 2017

Postby applelover » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:32 am

Mal Reynolds wrote:Yeah everyone I met was really nice. I hope you guys came to trivia because that shit was amazing. Also i definitely met a TLSer at the regents thing. He kept on saying models and bottles and other buzz words.


I didn't go to trivia. I wish I had though. Also, I met a TLSer and I think someone else I was chatting with mentioned you, Mal.




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