Northwestern Class of 2017 Forum

[whereskyle]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm totally down. School!

[kcdc1]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

[wojo98]

I'm skeptical.

Agreed - all depends on how implemented. I'm on board if it's a slow ramp-up, applying to courses during an inconsequential semester of law school (e.g. 3L year). If the outcome affects my job placement (e.g. 1L), not interested.

The most pressing issue with law school is not how it's taught, it's program length and cost.

[berndie90]

Hi all - happy to say I can finally be checking in! I would really love to end up at NU...interested in what people are thinking for housing? The options seem so much more plentiful and a greater variety than U of Chicago.

[AAJD2B]

Does NU offer travel stipends??

[lawschool22]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

Oh no I hate group work in classrooms.

[Ricky-Bobby]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

Oh no I hate group work in classrooms.

Found the one guy in undergrad who did all the work in the group.

[lawschool22]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

Oh no I hate group work in classrooms.

Found the one guy in undergrad who did all the work in the group.

Not by choice, by necessity lol

[whereskyle]

Does NU offer travel stipends??

I recently received an e-mail saying that they were firming up the stipends. I think that it will be a reimbursement of $100-$200.

[whereskyle]

Hi all - happy to say I can finally be checking in! I would really love to end up at NU...interested in what people are thinking for housing? The options seem so much more plentiful and a greater variety than U of Chicago.

Congratulations!

I am looking to save $$$, so I'm in the browsing West of school to try to find a roomshare camp, which I expect isn't super popular among our more mature cohort.

[Pneumonia]

How are ya'll treating the questions on the Scholarship and Grant form? Short/long? How much time should I put in here?

[whereskyle]

How are ya'll treating the questions on the Scholarship and Grant form? Short/long? How much time should I put in here?

From what I've read, you should try to avoid being generic. I think that you can browse through earlier pages of this forum for discussion on this.

[wojo98]

NLJ Go-To Law Schools (for graduating class of 2013) just released (top 10 here):

THE TOP 10
Rank Law school Percent of graduates
at NLJ 250 firms

1 Columbia Law School 65.45%
2 New York University School of Law 54.93%
3 Harvard Law School 53.55%
4 University of Chicago Law School 53.02%
5 university of pennsylvania law school 52.51%
6 Northwestern University School of Law 51.05%
7 Duke Law School 48.55%
8 Stanford Law School 47.09%
9 Cornell Law School 45.08%
10 University of California, Berkeley 44.85%

Northwestern, pre usual, performing "well" (at least relative to peers) in (one of?) the only criterion that matters - Big Law placement. 50% in a vacuum is still disconcerting.

[wojo98]

Btw - NU's 51% is also in line with its 2009-2012 average.

[onionz]

NLJ Go-To Law Schools (for graduating class of 2013) just released (top 10 here):

THE TOP 10
Rank Law school Percent of graduates
at NLJ 250 firms

1 Columbia Law School 65.45%
2 New York University School of Law 54.93%
3 Harvard Law School 53.55%
4 University of Chicago Law School 53.02%
5 University of Pennsylvania Law School 52.51%
6 Northwestern University School of Law 51.05%
7 Duke Law School 48.55%
8 Stanford Law School 47.09%
9 Cornell Law School 45.08%
10 University of California, Berkeley 44.85%

Northwestern, pre usual, performing "well" (at least relative to peers) in (one of?) the only criterion that matters - Big Law placement. 50% in a vacuum is still disconcerting.

NU 1L here. Don't forget some of this self selection. (Yale was #12 on the last with only 36% doing biglaw, and I don't think anyone would claim it's not worth going there). And don't forget some people self-select out of BigLaw, or do Clerkship (not a large % for either at NU, but not negligible either) and finally there's a not insignificant number of grads who go to one of a few boutiques that aren't represented in the NLJ250.

Not that there aren't people who don't have the outcome they like, and things aren't what they were in 2007, but still a pretty positive number overall.

[NYC-WVU]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

The description sounds exactly like my undergraduate experience and nothing like my graduate experience (which was ordinary lecturing). I have to say I learned a tremendous amount more from class during undergrad. Granted, both degrees were in engineering (where "drills" are required to learn the material), and so the subject matter might be so different that my experience is not comparable to a law school experience at all. But the idea that you watch the lectures beforehand so you can "learn it" at your own pace, sounds promising. Of course, I am a 0L, so I have no idea how classrooms work in law school, but if any classroom time is spent with the professor simply talking at the students, there's no reason why this can't be done outside of a classroom, so that classroom time is more interactive.

[Kikero]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

The description sounds exactly like my undergraduate experience and nothing like my graduate experience (which was ordinary lecturing). I have to say I learned a tremendous amount more from class during undergrad. Granted, both degrees were in engineering (where "drills" are required to learn the material), and so the subject matter might be so different that my experience is not comparable to a law school experience at all. But the idea that you watch the lectures beforehand so you can "learn it" at your own pace, sounds promising. Of course, I am a 0L, so I have no idea how classrooms work in law school, but if any classroom time is spent with the professor simply talking at the students, there's no reason why this can't be done outside of a classroom, so that classroom time is more interactive.

It's like any other educational institution, your class will depend on the professor. I've had classes where the professor does almost all the talking and classes where the students do most of the talking. Most are somewhere in between with the professor doing most of the lecturing but then calling on students for a significant portion of the class.

[YouGoGlenCoCo]

Is anyone going to the LA Law Admitted Student Dinner this Thursday?

[whereskyle]

Is anyone going to the LA Law Admitted Student Dinner this Thursday?

I'll be at the one in SF on Tuesday...

[YouGoGlenCoCo]

Is anyone going to the LA Law Admitted Student Dinner this Thursday?

I'll be at the one in SF on Tuesday...

Are you just dressing business casual?

Also, if anyone is attending the LA one, I'd be down to meet up beforehand and grab coffee. It's always a little awkward going to these things not knowing anyone.

[whereskyle]

Is anyone going to the LA Law Admitted Student Dinner this Thursday?

I'll be at the one in SF on Tuesday...

Are you just dressing business casual?

Also, if anyone is attending the LA one, I'd be down to meet up beforehand and grab coffee. It's always a little awkward going to these things not knowing anyone.

Definitely business casual. Probably suit paints and a casual button up and tie, leave the jacket. I have no presentable pants beyond my suit pants at the moment, and my shirts just look better with ties. Let me know if you think I should scratch any of that.

[Dr. Filth]

This is interesting... we may be the guinea pigs.

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Artic ... 18-14.aspx

I'm skeptical. As a former teacher, I'll say that this model makes a ton of sense for K-12 students that need guided practice work to drill concepts until they are memorized. I don't see how it makes sense for elite law students that should be able to master basic concepts independently and are looking to the professor for more subtle, conceptual guidance. On the other hand, group work is fun.

wrong thread, bro

[whereskyle]

NLJ Go-To Law Schools (for graduating class of 2013) just released (top 10 here):

THE TOP 10
Rank Law school Percent of graduates
at NLJ 250 firms

1 Columbia Law School 65.45%
2 New York University School of Law 54.93%
3 Harvard Law School 53.55%
4 University of Chicago Law School 53.02%
5 University of Pennsylvania Law School 52.51%
6 Northwestern University School of Law 51.05%
7 Duke Law School 48.55%
8 Stanford Law School 47.09%
9 Cornell Law School 45.08%
10 University of California, Berkeley 44.85%

Northwestern, pre usual, performing "well" (at least relative to peers) in (one of?) the only criterion that matters - Big Law placement. 50% in a vacuum is still disconcerting.

NU 1L here. Don't forget some of this self selection. (Yale was #12 on the last with only 36% doing biglaw, and I don't think anyone would claim it's not worth going there). And don't forget some people self-select out of BigLaw, or do Clerkship (not a large % for either at NU, but not negligible either) and finally there's a not insignificant number of grads who go to one of a few boutiques that aren't represented in the NLJ250.

Not that there aren't people who don't have the outcome they like, and things aren't what they were in 2007, but still a pretty positive number overall.

Any information as to the sorts of practice areas specialized in by aforementioned (and bolded) boutiques?

[kcdc1]

Any information as to the sorts of practice areas specialized in by aforementioned (and bolded) boutiques?

IP law tends to lend itself to successful boutiques.

[AAJD2B]

Where are folks staying for ASW? These hotels are not cheap. I am not trying to spend over $150/night. I want to be in town for 4 days/3 nights and even with the NU discount, prices are expensive.