NYU Class of 2017 - We are real 1Ls now

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Postby esther0123 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:05 am

Did anyone get a hand written note from NYU (along with the typical printed out letter about acceptance and what not)? I don't know if this is one of their marketing strategy or actually genuine. Yes, I'm a cynic.

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Postby Theopliske8711 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:16 am

Yea I got it also. It made a reference to my PS.

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Postby admiringatticus » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:45 am

Cocoblues wrote:
Dr.Zer0 wrote:
Cocoblues wrote:I was admitted on 2/11. 8 days later, I still haven't received an official letter/package. IS that normal?

Also, does anyone know the deadline for submitting the NeedAccess info? Getting parental information is turning out to be a real pain :( It may drag for another week or so.


Hey coco! I got my letter on Saturday and I'm on the west coast. But still haven't received a package.



Thanks Dr. Z. I got the purple envelope this evening. :D No package.

Does everyone get a pizza box?


Jealous about how quickly you guys are getting your packages! I'm international, admitted 1/22 and just received my letter yesterday. Still no pizza box!

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Re: NYU Class of 2017 - New Photos in OP!

Postby wealtheow » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:04 am

esther0123 wrote:Did anyone get a hand written note from NYU (along with the typical printed out letter about acceptance and what not)? I don't know if this is one of their marketing strategy or actually genuine. Yes, I'm a cynic.


I got one too, referring to my work experience. I'd say it's a little of both (in that they are legitimately personalized, to an extent, but ultimately it's a recruitment strat)

Any of the Feb admits get their pizza box yet?

eta: i see some january admits haven't received their boxes yet, so i guess i can chill out :P

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:25 am

wealtheow wrote:
esther0123 wrote:Did anyone get a hand written note from NYU (along with the typical printed out letter about acceptance and what not)? I don't know if this is one of their marketing strategy or actually genuine. Yes, I'm a cynic.


I got one too, referring to my work experience. I'd say it's a little of both (in that they are legitimately personalized, to an extent, but ultimately it's a recruitment strat)

Any of the Feb admits get their pizza box yet?

eta: i see some january admits haven't received their boxes yet, so i guess i can chill out :P


I got one as well. I'm sure it's partly recruitment. But hey, if the two alternatives are (1) Send personalized note or (2) Don't send personalized note, I'm going to look at the school who chose option 1 more favorably than the school that chose option 2.

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Postby riverwater » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:14 am

lawschool22 wrote:
wealtheow wrote:
esther0123 wrote:Did anyone get a hand written note from NYU (along with the typical printed out letter about acceptance and what not)? I don't know if this is one of their marketing strategy or actually genuine. Yes, I'm a cynic.


I got one too, referring to my work experience. I'd say it's a little of both (in that they are legitimately personalized, to an extent, but ultimately it's a recruitment strat)

Any of the Feb admits get their pizza box yet?

eta: i see some january admits haven't received their boxes yet, so i guess i can chill out :P


I got one as well. I'm sure it's partly recruitment. But hey, if the two alternatives are (1) Send personalized note or (2) Don't send personalized note, I'm going to look at the school who chose option 1 more favorably than the school that chose option 2.


Everyone got a note. It's absolutely, positively a recruitment tool. That said, I still feel warm and fuzzy on the inside.

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:17 am

The poll above really shows the unrepresentative nature of TLS lol. One in five people so far has a full-ride :D. Wish I was in that group :cry: :cry:

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Postby paglababa » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:42 pm

lawschool22 wrote:The poll above really shows the unrepresentative nature of TLS lol. One in five people so far has a full-ride :D. Wish I was in that group :cry: :cry:


So awesome. I'd like to see who of those 7 people are gonna turn it down for HYS.

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:13 pm

paglababa wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:The poll above really shows the unrepresentative nature of TLS lol. One in five people so far has a full-ride :D. Wish I was in that group :cry: :cry:


So awesome. I'd like to see who of those 7 people are gonna turn it down for HYS.


I hope they have very good reasons for that lol

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Postby residentemma » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:00 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
paglababa wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:The poll above really shows the unrepresentative nature of TLS lol. One in five people so far has a full-ride :D. Wish I was in that group :cry: :cry:


So awesome. I'd like to see who of those 7 people are gonna turn it down for HYS.


I hope they have very good reasons for that lol


I probably will. I realize I am in the minority on this but I have the financial support to graduate relatively debt free, and for the kind of career I want after law school, it looks like H will set me up better. Still visiting both before I make a decision though (and waiting on YS)

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:03 pm

residentemma wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
paglababa wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:The poll above really shows the unrepresentative nature of TLS lol. One in five people so far has a full-ride :D. Wish I was in that group :cry: :cry:


So awesome. I'd like to see who of those 7 people are gonna turn it down for HYS.


I hope they have very good reasons for that lol


I probably will. I realize I am in the minority on this but I have the financial support to graduate relatively debt free, and for the kind of career I want after law school, it looks like H will set me up better. Still visiting both before I make a decision though (and waiting on YS)


Oh for sure, if you can get help from parents or otherwise to graduate H w/ low debt, then it's a no brainer. I'm talking about the people choosing between HLS at sticker and NYU w/ a full ride.

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Re: NYU Class of 2017 - New Photos in OP!

Postby Theopliske8711 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:04 pm

Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:09 pm

Theopliske8711 wrote:Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D


Haha amen. Any of you vandy people who are planning on going to HLS, please reject your offer prior to the deadline. Thank you in advance. :D

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Postby paglababa » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:10 pm

Theopliske8711 wrote:Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D


I guess TLS consensus is Biglaw -> Full ride t14 hands down
Any other ambitions -> HYS

With some slight distinguishing gradients between those.

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:12 pm

paglababa wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D


I guess TLS consensus is Biglaw -> Full ride t14 hands down
Any other ambitions -> HYS

With some slight distinguishing gradients between those.


Yep this is pretty much good advice. Although I would say for certain PI ambitions I would probably take the full ride at NYU. And for clerkships I would probably take a Ruby over HLS at sticker.

"Fortunately" I won't be making that decision, so if I were to miraculously get H it makes the choice a bit easier lol

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Postby residentemma » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:14 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D


Haha amen. Any of you vandy people who are planning on going to HLS, please reject your offer prior to the deadline. Thank you in advance. :D


I'll put in the "extra comments" section that I want my vandy to go to the victor of a fight to the death between theopliske and ls22

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:14 pm

residentemma wrote:
lawschool22 wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:Well, I hope they send some of that vandy love back down to me, if there are any rejecting. :D


Haha amen. Any of you vandy people who are planning on going to HLS, please reject your offer prior to the deadline. Thank you in advance. :D


I'll put in the "extra comments" section that I want my vandy to go to the victor of a fight to the death between theopliske and ls22


I'll split it with him if that's an option lol. Rather take the 1/2 scholly than risk death. If I can add it to my current scholarship I could get close lol

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Postby paglababa » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:16 pm

Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.

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Postby lawschool22 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:18 pm

paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


Depends where you want to practice. If you were okay w/ NYC (or most other smaller secondary markets that you have ties to) and didn't care about getting into a V5 firm, then Cornell full is probably the correct response. I told someone else recently that you see way more "I regret taking H instead of the T14 full-ride" posts than "I regret taking the full ride over going to H" posts.

It just requires being true w/ yourself about your goals and whether you think the school you attend could get you there.

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Postby charlie.black » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:28 pm

paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.

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Postby residentemma » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:37 pm

charlie.black wrote:
paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.


Well if you took it all out in loans you'd probably have about 300k of debt, so I guess if you were doing biglaw and getting 160k and being frugal you could pay it off in 3-5 years... but not everyone makes that right out of school. Also think about opportunity cost... 160k a year with no debt sounds pretty nice :D

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Postby jdapplicant » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:39 pm

charlie.black wrote:
paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.


And that's 160k plus bonuses.

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Postby charlie.black » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:41 pm

residentemma wrote:
charlie.black wrote:
paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.


Well if you took it all out in loans you'd probably have about 300k of debt, so I guess if you were doing biglaw and getting 160k and being frugal you could pay it off in 3-5 years... but not everyone makes that right out of school. Also think about opportunity cost... 160k a year with no debt sounds pretty nice :D

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Postby DrStudMuffin » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:54 pm

residentemma wrote:
charlie.black wrote:
paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.


Well if you took it all out in loans you'd probably have about 300k of debt, so I guess if you were doing biglaw and getting 160k and being frugal you could pay it off in 3-5 years... but not everyone makes that right out of school. Also think about opportunity cost... 160k a year with no debt sounds pretty nice :D


Just a heads up - paying off 300k in loans at 6-7 percent interest on a NYC biglaw salary (about 96k a year after taxes and before bonus) in anything close to 3 years is not possible. When you also consider how draining NYC biglaw is, I think that's a pretty unappealing situation.

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Re: NYU Class of 2017 - New Photos in OP!

Postby Theopliske8711 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:06 pm

charlie.black wrote:
paglababa wrote:Does this rule only apply to CCN? I feel like it would be harder to pick Cornell full ride over HYS for big law even though Cornell places well in NYC.


I had a young law professor from Ohio State visit my undergrad last fall. He attended SLS, clerked for the supremes, then did some lit work in dc before transitioning into academia. He said T6 > any other T14 at any price. I said, "really? what about full-ride penn or uva?" Reply: "T6. The job placement is just different." Kind of hard for me to believe at the time. Still hard for me to believe.

But is the $ it costs to attend HYS at sticker really that much over a career? At starting 160k, it seems that the debt wouldn't be horrendous to pay back, and you have added job security/opportunities that you wouldn't have at the lower t14.


The problem is that I don't just take into account how much I will be making, but I have to also assess how long I can honestly expect to survive big law. Ideally, I would like the option to opt out within 2 years after paying off my debt, maybe staying another year or two to save. Many associates don't last that long, so the last thing I need is to have that debt still hanging relatively strong after 3 years.

That needs to be taken into account.




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