Harvard Class of 2017

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State your section!

Section 1
6
8%
Section 2
12
16%
Section 3
8
11%
Section 4
7
10%
Section 5
19
26%
Section 6
8
11%
Section 7
13
18%
 
Total votes: 73

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oxie
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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby oxie » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:54 pm

In addition to the link posted by politics89, I also found this page pretty helpful in figuring out grant eligibility: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby Howl » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:58 pm

oxie wrote:In addition to the link posted by politics89, I also found this page pretty helpful in figuring out grant eligibility: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html


That indeed is helpful. Thanks!

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby paglababa » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:51 pm

The-Specs wrote:
politics89 wrote:I thought at ASW they said 43kish was the base loan, and that 34k was the max aid?


Sorry, yes you are right but with the budget change this year it was 81k budget, they said 43k in loans, 2.5k in required student contribution and then the difference (~35k) possible in aid. I got those mixed-up. Thanks for the correction.


Yes, this is my impression too. Note, if you're doing a big law SA, expect that grant amount to come down to ~20K/year if you're currently maxed out.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby baloneydanza » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:00 pm

oxie wrote:In addition to the link posted by politics89, I also found this page pretty helpful in figuring out grant eligibility: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... ytype.html


Oh god. I was already pretty sure I wasn't going to get much money, but now I'm near certain that Harvard won't give me shit.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby lastsamurai » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:42 pm

paglababa wrote:
The-Specs wrote:
politics89 wrote:I thought at ASW they said 43kish was the base loan, and that 34k was the max aid?


Sorry, yes you are right but with the budget change this year it was 81k budget, they said 43k in loans, 2.5k in required student contribution and then the difference (~35k) possible in aid. I got those mixed-up. Thanks for the correction.


Yes, this is my impression too. Note, if you're doing a big law SA, expect that grant amount to come down to ~20K/year if you're currently maxed out.


This is hard for me to wrap my head around. Doesn't this penalize you for working? It just doesn't make much sense to me. Where's my incentive to go after a 1L SA if it's just going to bring my grant money down?

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby paglababa » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:52 pm

lastsamurai wrote:
paglababa wrote:
The-Specs wrote:
politics89 wrote:I thought at ASW they said 43kish was the base loan, and that 34k was the max aid?


Sorry, yes you are right but with the budget change this year it was 81k budget, they said 43k in loans, 2.5k in required student contribution and then the difference (~35k) possible in aid. I got those mixed-up. Thanks for the correction.


Yes, this is my impression too. Note, if you're doing a big law SA, expect that grant amount to come down to ~20K/year if you're currently maxed out.


This is hard for me to wrap my head around. Doesn't this penalize you for working? It just doesn't make much sense to me. Where's my incentive to go after a 1L SA if it's just going to bring my grant money down?


Not necessarily, you still come out ahead (atleast by 7k) because of your 30k internship salary, they deduct tax and a ~7k living deduction, and your contribution is 90% of this final amount. So pretty much if you don't work, the minimum contribution amount is 2.5k or something. But everyone has to work over the summer the officer told me, even if its some PI gig. If you did a market rate summer internship, your contribution would be about 15 k. The difference between that and the minimum contribution is going to reduce your grant.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby oxie » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:59 pm

On the topic of SA positions and whatnot, HLS has a calculator for determining how much of your summer earnings they expect you to put toward school: http://www.law.harvard.edu/apps/sfs/cal ... alculator/

And they have some other useful financial aid-related tools here: http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/ ... index.html

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby lastsamurai » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:10 am

Thanks Oxie

Paglababa - so in this scenario, wouldn't you be given the incentive to only make 7k after taxes that summer so that your grant wouldn't be reduced? Something just isn't clicking for me here.

"Come here so you can work at a high paying job all summer and then contribute 90% of that toward your education because we're going to take that out of your financial aid!"

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby malleus discentium » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:27 pm

lastsamurai wrote:Thanks Oxie

Paglababa - so in this scenario, wouldn't you be given the incentive to only make 7k after taxes that summer so that your grant wouldn't be reduced? Something just isn't clicking for me here.

"Come here so you can work at a high paying job all summer and then contribute 90% of that toward your education because we're going to take that out of your financial aid!"

Isn't the point of a SA more to get a job than the money? I mean it sucks that you would make a bunch and not get to take much of it home, but that's what biglaw will look like anyway for a while for people with big loans. But you'd probably be getting that biglaw job out of it.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby hdunlop » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:55 am

I think Harvard would say that taking money from kids who are poor but are about to become rich in their third year allows the school to give more money to 3Ls doing PI who will remain poor and incoming 1Ls who are poor and won't be rich for two years.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby TheMostDangerousLG » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:48 pm

hdunlop wrote:I think Harvard would say that taking money from kids who are poor but are about to become rich in their third year allows the school to give more money to 3Ls doing PI who will remain poor and incoming 1Ls who are poor and won't be rich for two years.


So what happens to the kids who are poor and want to do PI? They just get to become destitute?

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby hdunlop » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:05 pm

Uh, they'll do PI in the summer using the $5,000 PI grant and then they'll get their full grant for 3L, which the school is able to afford more easily because the kids, poor and otherwise, doing SA work that summer get their grant reduced.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby TheMostDangerousLG » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:05 pm

hdunlop wrote:Uh, they'll do PI in the summer using the $5,000 PI grant and then they'll get their full grant for 3L, which the school is able to afford more easily because the kids, poor and otherwise, doing SA work that summer get their grant reduced.


I just really don't buy that the school needs to rely on reduced grant aid to be able to fund these programs. Especially when they keep jacking up tuition further and further each year.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby hdunlop » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:09 pm

Oh me neither, but I do think it's what Harvard would say.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby wtrc » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:57 am

HLS was more generous than I expected they would be for my aid. I didn't get near the max 34k, but I got something. Seems like they do read the "special circumstances" section.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby wtrc » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:58 am

Also, has everyone here received a book by now (other than me)?

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby politics89 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:26 am

wtrc wrote:Also, has everyone here received a book by now (other than me)?


I haven't :(

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby bbkk » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:56 am

politics89 wrote:
wtrc wrote:Also, has everyone here received a book by now (other than me)?


I haven't :(


+1 :(

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby Nonconsecutive » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:59 pm

For those of you who received a stipend for the March ASW, do you just keep your receipts and turn them in while you are there, or do you mail them in later?

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby The-Specs » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:34 pm

Nonconsecutive wrote:For those of you who received a stipend for the March ASW, do you just keep your receipts and turn them in while you are there, or do you mail them in later?


I turned mine in at the ASW check-in.

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby wtrc » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:49 pm

The Harvard Law Class of 2016 thread is 2 pages long.
The Harvard Law Class of 2015 is a whopping 3 pages long.
It's not even April and we're at 64 pages. :)

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby Nonconsecutive » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:51 pm

The-Specs wrote:
Nonconsecutive wrote:For those of you who received a stipend for the March ASW, do you just keep your receipts and turn them in while you are there, or do you mail them in later?


I turned mine in at the ASW check-in.


Gotcha, thanks!

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby baloneydanza » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:11 pm

wtrc wrote:The Harvard Law Class of 2016 thread is 2 pages long.
The Harvard Law Class of 2015 is a whopping 3 pages long.
It's not even April and we're at 64 pages. :)


how did this happen

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby splat232 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:34 pm

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Re: Harvard Class of 2017

Postby CyanIdes Of March » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:45 pm

wtrc wrote:The Harvard Law Class of 2016 thread is 2 pages long.
The Harvard Law Class of 2015 is a whopping 3 pages long.
It's not even April and we're at 64 pages. :)


I was really surprised to see that the last 2 years were so dead.

When I first saw that I made sure to let a few waiters know where the we went and the more active posters did the rest :o .




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