Cornell Class of 2017

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Toubro
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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Toubro » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:28 am

Waiting on grades! They usually come up around lunch, right? :shock:

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Babum » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:31 am

I thought this was an update saying that "grades are out". I can't wait anymore.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Toubro » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:58 pm

:/ at this rate, they'll probably just come out tomorrow.
ETA: Also great timing on the health insurance email, Terry Thompson et al.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Babum » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:32 pm

"At least I've got my health" :roll: :roll:

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Toubro » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:38 pm

They're up!

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runthetrap1990
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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:56 pm

I caved in and checked at work. Why must this be so stressful.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby King Cayuga » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:08 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:I caved in and checked at work. Why must this be so stressful.


Just think of how much worse it would be at a school that didn't have a 96% employment score.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:42 pm

So this may be premature, but are the numbers they send out for Fall Semester typically consistent with Spring Semester performance, or does it vary?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby tyrant_flycatcher » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:26 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:So this may be premature, but are the numbers they send out for Fall Semester typically consistent with Spring Semester performance, or does it vary?


Unless the administration pushed professors to bump up their medians, I doubt it.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Lavitz » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:22 pm

So which one of you will be brave enough to start the AJF thread?

runthetrap1990 wrote:So this may be premature, but are the numbers they send out for Fall Semester typically consistent with Spring Semester performance, or does it vary?

You're asking about the cutoffs? Yes, they're usually consistent, with very minor fluctuations. You can see the past ones here.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runinthefront » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:17 pm

Top 30% is 3.6475 (high!)

Top 10% is 3.8131

Top 5% is 3.8846

Just confirmed from registrar and unofficial transcript.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:49 pm

runinthefront wrote:Top 30% is 3.6475 (high!)

Top 10% is 3.8131

Top 5% is 3.8846

Just confirmed from registrar and unofficial transcript.


That's insane...

Those all seem abnormally high. The inflation...
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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Babum » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:56 pm

Did you guys notice that both your names start with "run"?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:18 pm

Babum wrote:Did you guys notice that both your names start with "run"?


we should go running some time, it seems.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby tyrant_flycatcher » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:07 pm

runinthefront wrote:Top 30% is 3.6475 (high!)

Top 10% is 3.8131

Top 5% is 3.8846

Just confirmed from registrar and unofficial transcript.


Woah. So is that for this semester, or updated to reflect the entire year?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:28 pm

tyrant_flycatcher wrote:
runinthefront wrote:Top 30% is 3.6475 (high!)

Top 10% is 3.8131

Top 5% is 3.8846

Just confirmed from registrar and unofficial transcript.


Woah. So is that for this semester, or updated to reflect the entire year?


if those were the 2 semester totals, it's a realistic possibility that median is over 3.5 now.

purely speculating, of course.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Lavitz » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:41 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:if those were the 2 semester totals, it's a realistic possibility that median is over 3.5 now.

purely speculating, of course.

I feel like it should be impossible for the classwide median to exceed 3.5 if each individual class is capped at 3.5.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:48 pm

Lavitz wrote:
runthetrap1990 wrote:if those were the 2 semester totals, it's a realistic possibility that median is over 3.5 now.

purely speculating, of course.

I feel like it should be impossible for the classwide median to exceed 3.5 if each individual class is capped at 3.5.


that's true, i forgot about that point. would that mean that the >30% is just top heavy?

ETA: i clear don't understand how grade distribution works, yet.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby King Cayuga » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:12 pm

One thing that might be happening is that the curve is simply becoming flatter(i.e. fewer in the traditional 3.4-3.6 grouping and more at the extremes). This would increase the 70th percentile grades somewhat while keeping the median similar. Alternatively the entire curve could be shifting slightly upward, but like Lavitz said there's a cap on class medians at 3.5, so anyone there and up is almost certainly still above median. It's hard to believe that over 20% of the class is lumped between 3.5 and 3.63.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Yea All Right » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:44 pm

My oh my. I wonder what employers will believe our median is.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runinthefront » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:44 am

Lavitz wrote:
runthetrap1990 wrote:if those were the 2 semester totals, it's a realistic possibility that median is over 3.5 now.

purely speculating, of course.

I feel like it should be impossible for the classwide median to exceed 3.5 if each individual class is capped at 3.5.


If professors are grading past a 3.5 curve, everyone who had the class would get a star on their transcript denoting that...which sucks. So, idk how the math works out, but there's no way that the individual professors could grade past a 3.5

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Cersei1992 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:23 pm

Does anyone know if the cutoffs are adjusted after people transfer out (i.e. if 3 people from the top 10% transfer, effectively changing what is the true 10% cutoff, will this ever be reflected for these two semesters?).

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby Toubro » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:37 pm

Someone who has more than 100 posts should make this year's AJF thread. I'd do it but I can't use images, and it's not right without that ominous pic of MTH.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby runinthefront » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:53 pm

Cersei1992 wrote:Does anyone know if the cutoffs are adjusted after people transfer out (i.e. if 3 people from the top 10% transfer, effectively changing what is the true 10% cutoff, will this ever be reflected for these two semesters?).


The cutofffs, to my knowledge, won't be adjusted until the end of the third semester. There's just no way for the Registrar's office to effectively do so.

Toubro wrote:Someone who has more than 100 posts should make this year's AJF thread. I'd do it but I can't use images, and it's not right without that ominous pic of MTH.


Not it.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Postby tyrant_flycatcher » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:18 pm

1. If a firm under Required Hiring Criteria lists one GPA but under Callback Trend lists a lower GPA, which GPA should we pay attention to?

2. If a firm with multiple locations only wants you to bid once and then inform your interviewer of your preferred location, but Symplicity varies number of interview slots by location, why would you ever initially bid on the location with the lower number of interview slots? Reverse psychology?

3. What's the best way to determine approx. High/Low/Avg. GPA for firms that do not have callback trends? Similarly, if a firm lists GPAs for one location but not another, should we assume that GPAs are generally the same across locations?

4. I did not advance in Langfan. Should I still list Moot Court on my resume? It seems like TCR is yes, but I don't want to spend time talking to my interviewer about a competition I did OK but not great in. I'd rather the interviewer focus on other, more interesting parts of my resume. Thoughts?

5. It seems like the general feeling here is that our grades are slightly inflated compared to other classes, given that the cutoff for top 30% is an eye-opening 3.64. Should we downshift accordingly or proceed as is?




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