Cornell Class of 2017 Forum

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2017)
Post Reply
User avatar
Toubro

Bronze
Posts: 243
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:18 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Toubro » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:03 pm

runinthefront wrote:These grades are taking their sweet ass time
I wish we had Grey Day even at Cornell.

User avatar
runthetrap1990

Bronze
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:08 pm

Toubro wrote:
runinthefront wrote:These grades are taking their sweet ass time
I wish we had Grey Day even at Cornell.
Grey Day was pretty chill. I'm more nervous waiting for grades than the LSAT, for whatever reason.

User avatar
Toubro

Bronze
Posts: 243
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:18 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Toubro » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:11 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
Toubro wrote:
runinthefront wrote:These grades are taking their sweet ass time
I wish we had Grey Day even at Cornell.
Grey Day was pretty chill. I'm more nervous waiting for grades than the LSAT, for whatever reason.
I think we usually perceive the MPR as being more decisive than the LSAT score, and with the LSAT there is of course the opportunity to retake it.

User avatar
runthetrap1990

Bronze
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:50 pm

They're up.

User avatar
Trippel

Bronze
Posts: 192
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:52 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Trippel » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:16 pm

Any idea how GPA corresponds to class rank percentile?

Want to continue reading?

Register now to search topics and post comments!

Absolutely FREE!


User avatar
runthetrap1990

Bronze
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:31 pm

Trippel wrote:Any idea how GPA corresponds to class rank percentile?
They have posted the historical top 5% and 10% on the exam grading page, and the usual average that professors are supposed to grade classes. I believe there is a class rank estimator somewhere on this site, too.

User avatar
Lavitz

Gold
Posts: 3402
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Lavitz » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:39 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
Trippel wrote:Any idea how GPA corresponds to class rank percentile?
They have posted the historical top 5% and 10% on the exam grading page, and the usual average that professors are supposed to grade classes. I believe there is a class rank estimator somewhere on this site, too.
Still waiting for them to post the updated version of this: https://support.law.cornell.edu/student ... r_2014.pdf

User avatar
runthetrap1990

Bronze
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:45 pm

Lavitz wrote:
runthetrap1990 wrote:
Trippel wrote:Any idea how GPA corresponds to class rank percentile?
They have posted the historical top 5% and 10% on the exam grading page, and the usual average that professors are supposed to grade classes. I believe there is a class rank estimator somewhere on this site, too.
Still waiting for them to post the updated version of this: https://support.law.cornell.edu/student ... r_2014.pdf
Do you expect much deviation? It seems over the course of 3 years it has stayed relatively consistent, even with the change from a hardline mean to a acceptable variation mean.

toothbrush

Gold
Posts: 2388
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by toothbrush » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:55 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
Do you expect much deviation? It seems over the course of 3 years it has stayed relatively consistent, even with the change from a hardline mean to a acceptable variation mean.
In the top 5 and 10%, there shouldn't be much deviation. However, the top 30% does swing a bit more than the others iirc. I made a post on this forum once with the top 30% cutoffs but I can't find it. If you are curious you can ask registrar soon.

Want to continue reading?

Register for access!

Did I mention it was FREE ?


runinthefront

Gold
Posts: 2151
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:18 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runinthefront » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:02 pm

The registrar will tell you the exact 5% 10% 30% cut-offs after only one semester?
Last edited by runinthefront on Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

toothbrush

Gold
Posts: 2388
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by toothbrush » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:07 pm

runinthefront wrote:The registrar will tell you the exact 5% 10% 30% cut-offs after only one semester?
Paging lavitz to back me up, but yes. I do remember going and asking for the 30% (since that's what matters right now - Dean's List for Fall).

And my memory is telling me top 30% in the Fall was a 3.56 (yes, low... that's why i said it swings.)

runinthefront

Gold
Posts: 2151
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:18 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runinthefront » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:13 pm

Deans list was 3.56? Someone told me it was around a 3.66? Does anyone know what median would be then? And does any higher distinction other than Deans list show up on your transcript? Also, how can you figure out what the bottom percentiles are? (top 10%/5%)

SO MANY 1L QUESTIONS
Last edited by runinthefront on Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
runthetrap1990

Bronze
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runthetrap1990 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:15 pm

runinthefront wrote:Deans list was 3.56? Someone told me it was around a 3.66? Does anyone know what median would be then? And does any higher distinction other than Deans list show up on your transcript? Also, how can you figure out what the bottom percentiles are? (top 10%/5%)

SO MANY 1L QUESTIONS
It never ends. I thought I'd have relief when I finally had my grades back and instead it just opened a whole new door of questions and concerns.

Register now!

Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.

It's still FREE!


toothbrush

Gold
Posts: 2388
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by toothbrush » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:17 pm

runinthefront wrote:Deans list was 3.56? Someone told me it was around a 3.66? Does anyone know what median would be then? And does any higher distinction other than Deans list show up on your transcript? Also, how can you figure out what the bottom percentiles are? (top 10%/5%)

SO MANY 1L QUESTIONS
In the fall, pretty sure Dean's list was a 3.56. I am like 75%.

Like I said, it does fluctuate from year to year. I think the year before us was around a 3.68 or something so ours dropped a lot. Median I believe was like a 3.48 or so...

No higher distinctions show up - that's why it doesn't matter for first semester which % exactly.

toothbrush

Gold
Posts: 2388
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by toothbrush » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:18 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
runinthefront wrote:Deans list was 3.56? Someone told me it was around a 3.66? Does anyone know what median would be then? And does any higher distinction other than Deans list show up on your transcript? Also, how can you figure out what the bottom percentiles are? (top 10%/5%)

SO MANY 1L QUESTIONS
It never ends. I thought I'd have relief when I finally had my grades back and instead it just opened a whole new door of questions and concerns.

if you have any questions you don't want to post here, either myself or lavitz (prob) would take PMs about it. If they are "how will I fare at OCI questions" I won't take them bc 1) I didn't do OCI at Cornell and 2) I don't think you should be worrying about that too much yet.

Generally the most important thing for OCI is interviewing skills (Are you normal?) and *probably* being above median.
Last edited by toothbrush on Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Lavitz

Gold
Posts: 3402
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Lavitz » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:38 pm

Toothbrush is right. I distinctly remember him telling me over the summer that he asked the registrar and they told him top 30% was either 3.56 or 3.58. Can't remember exactly which. And I remember thinking that was low because I also once heard that it used to be above 3.6.

Median will probably be somewhere between 3.4 and 3.5 like toothbrush suggested with the 3.48. I don't remember hearing an exact number for that last year.

Interviewing > grades. Also agree that interviewing will matter more than grades. High grades will help and low grades may hurt, but distinctions like 3.59 without dean's list vs. 3.61 with dean's list probably won't make a difference.

Willing to take PMs on anything.

hephaestus

Gold
Posts: 2399
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by hephaestus » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:43 pm

Lavitz wrote:Toothbrush is right. I distinctly remember him telling me over the summer that he asked the registrar and they told him top 30% was either 3.56 or 3.58. Can't remember exactly which. And I remember thinking that was low because I also once heard that it used to be above 3.6.

Median will probably be somewhere between 3.4 and 3.5 like toothbrush suggested with the 3.48. I don't remember hearing an exact number for that last year.

Interviewing > grades. Also agree that interviewing will matter more than grades. High grades will help and low grades may hurt, but distinctions like 3.59 without dean's list vs. 3.61 with dean's list probably won't make a difference.

Willing to take PMs on anything.
Yes it changes from year to year. It was 3.61 after our first semester.

Get unlimited access to all forums and topics

Register now!

I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...


hephaestus

Gold
Posts: 2399
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by hephaestus » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:47 pm

Also willing to take PMs if anyone wants a 3L (or just generally another) perspective.

User avatar
tyrant_flycatcher

Bronze
Posts: 159
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:05 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by tyrant_flycatcher » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:13 pm

How do we see whether we made Dean's List?

toothbrush

Gold
Posts: 2388
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by toothbrush » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:20 pm

tyrant_flycatcher wrote:How do we see whether we made Dean's List?
iirc you have to request a transcript and it shows up on that as a designation on the bottom.

User avatar
tyrant_flycatcher

Bronze
Posts: 159
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:05 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by tyrant_flycatcher » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:36 pm

toothbrush wrote:
tyrant_flycatcher wrote:How do we see whether we made Dean's List?
iirc you have to request a transcript and it shows up on that as a designation on the bottom.
Can I request an unofficial transcript or does it have to be an official one?

Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.

Register now, it's still FREE!


User avatar
Lavitz

Gold
Posts: 3402
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Lavitz » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:48 pm

tyrant_flycatcher wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
tyrant_flycatcher wrote:How do we see whether we made Dean's List?
iirc you have to request a transcript and it shows up on that as a designation on the bottom.
Can I request an unofficial transcript or does it have to be an official one?
1) you always request unofficial

2) I don't think it will show up yet. They will mail out letters. Around that time, if you request a new transcript, it will appear. I don't remember if there was another way to tell.

hephaestus

Gold
Posts: 2399
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by hephaestus » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:55 pm

Lavitz wrote:
tyrant_flycatcher wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
tyrant_flycatcher wrote:How do we see whether we made Dean's List?
iirc you have to request a transcript and it shows up on that as a designation on the bottom.
Can I request an unofficial transcript or does it have to be an official one?
1) you always request unofficial

2) I don't think it will show up yet. They will mail out letters. Around that time, if you request a new transcript, it will appear. I don't remember if there was another way to tell.
It'll be like for or five days at least before the dean's list asterisk will appear on your unofficial transcript.

runinthefront

Gold
Posts: 2151
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:18 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by runinthefront » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:14 pm

As 2Ls, did you guys find second semester of 1L easier or harder? My theory is that most people in general work harder and now have an understanding of what's going on/how to take tests/what worked and what didn't...etc. Do you think that's the case?
Last edited by runinthefront on Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Lavitz

Gold
Posts: 3402
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Cornell Class of 2017

Post by Lavitz » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:35 pm

runinthefront wrote:As 2Ls, did you guys find second semester of 1L easier or harder? My theory is that most people in general work harder and now have an understanding of what's going on/how to take tests/what worked and what didn't...etc. Do you think that's the case?
idk. I felt like I put the same amount of effort into classes, and got virtually the same gpa. I put extra work into moot court and clubs though, so I think that made the semester as a whole seem harder.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!


Post Reply

Return to “TLS Class of 2017 Forum”