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Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:21 am

Hey all,

In a bit of a peculiar situation but hoping that someone has some insight. I am a foreign-educated student but got lucky enough to land a 2L SA position at a V10 in NY. I am 95% sure I want to do litigation. As a non-citizen, the only courts I am allowed to clerk for are non-contiguous US states - Alaska and Hawaii - and the territories (American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam and Puerto Rico).

I am wondering if I should at all bother with applying for clerkships right after graduation coming from a law school outside the US. No law review but lots of "practical" experience and top 15%. Obviously 9th circuit is out of the question, but what about the District Courts in US VI, Guam, or Puerto Rico?

Also, considering my non-citizen, non-law review status, how much better do my chances get after a year (few years?) in BigLaw? Are those two factors as significant of non-starters as I feel they are, even after working a bit?

Thanks in advance to anyone with any advice.

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Auxilio » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:06 pm

To be honest, I don't think any American judge will hire a foreign educated law student (maybe exceptions for McGill/UofT/OxBridge). But to the extent you want to clerk I would definitely look at State clerkships.

Court of Appeals (highest court in State) in NY is more prestigious than Guam district etc., especially if you are practicing in NY.

Similarly, Delaware Court of Chancery, Delaware Supreme, California Supreme are much more prestigious than Guam etc. (I'd put them as average circuits generally).

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:09 pm

I clerked at one of the district courts that you listed. To put it bluntly--I think it is very unlikely that you would be hired by my judge. Even in the territories, I think there is an aversion to hiring someone without an American law degree and there are a large number of qualified applicants (including non-citizens with American degrees).

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:32 pm

OP here, thanks for the replies! What are my chances at say the NY Court of Appeals?

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Auxilio » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:OP here, thanks for the replies! What are my chances at say the NY Court of Appeals?


I mean, I've still never heard of a clerk with a foreign education, so I'd imagine very slim at best. It sounds like you would have a couple years of NY practice before clerking though, so there's maybe a chance I guess.

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby bozbozboz » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:44 pm

Auxilio wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP here, thanks for the replies! What are my chances at say the NY Court of Appeals?


I mean, I've still never heard of a clerk with a foreign education, so I'd imagine very slim at best. It sounds like you would have a couple years of NY practice before clerking though, so there's maybe a chance I guess.


Yeah, I figured it would be very difficult. Thanks for the honest reply!

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Re: Weird situation - any chance at Federal clerksip?

Postby Wild Card » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:18 pm

Certain judges hire "Volunteer Law Clerks," and these positions are meant for non-U.S. citizens.



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