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coramnonjudice

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Gift for Federal Judge

Postby coramnonjudice » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:31 am

My judge has made clear that he/she expects some sort of gift at the end of my clerkship term (by speaking disparagingly of last year's term clerk who left without providing a gift). Any idea what would be appropriate? I did not enjoy my time here and want something very vanilla/basic.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby SomewhatLearnedHand » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:43 am

Decent bottle of wine should suffice

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby nixy » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:46 am

Yeah. And FWIW that’s bullshit on the judge’s part.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby coramnonjudice » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:48 am

nixy wrote:Yeah. And FWIW that’s bullshit on the judge’s part.


Dude that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's been a tough term.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby Barrred » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:57 am

Did you/your co-clerks ever have a picture taken together? Just go get a little $10 wooden frame and give him the picture.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby ClubberLang » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:07 pm

Sounds like he/she is a jerk. I'd get him something cheap and useless, like a pet rock or a coffee table book on a completely random subject.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:44 am

Barrred wrote:Did you/your co-clerks ever have a picture taken together? Just go get a little $10 wooden frame and give him the picture.


This is a good, safe option. My co-clerk and I went in on a nice, framed photo of our judge and all his chambers staff (including us) that was taken during a formal event. Even though he had made clear he didn't want or expect gifts from his staff, he really seemed to like it.

Also worked for a different judge during law school. At the end of the externship I got him a tie because he frequently complimented mine.

Judges know they make more money than you. Put thought into it instead of cash. Even though your judge sounds like a jerk, it's probably worth it to give a good gift and leave on pleasant terms.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby coramnonjudice » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Barrred wrote:Did you/your co-clerks ever have a picture taken together? Just go get a little $10 wooden frame and give him the picture.


This is a good, safe option. My co-clerk and I went in on a nice, framed photo of our judge and all his chambers staff (including us) that was taken during a formal event. Even though he had made clear he didn't want or expect gifts from his staff, he really seemed to like it.

Also worked for a different judge during law school. At the end of the externship I got him a tie because he frequently complimented mine.

Judges know they make more money than you. Put thought into it instead of cash. Even though your judge sounds like a jerk, it's probably worth it to give a good gift and leave on pleasant terms.


I agree that this is a great gift idea. However, during my term my co-clerks and I were not invited to attend any events with the judge and never had any photos taken with one another. We went to a fast food restaurant for lunch one Friday. Other than that, we ate at our desks and worked 12 hour days 6 days a week. It was a joyless experience I'm glad to have behind me.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby legit » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:18 pm

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/prof ... fgift.html

If I were to give $100 in chocolate strawberries to the federal judge and court staff (6 people), would that be okay? They received chocolate strawberries that were delivered to the court before I clerked and mentioned about how they ate them for breakfast. The judge has been a wonderful mentor and taken me out to lunch on multiple occasions.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby Laser Lady » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:00 pm

legit wrote:https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_code_of_judicial_conduct/model_code_of_judicial_conduct_canon_3/rule3_13acceptanceandreportingofgift.html

If I were to give $100 in chocolate strawberries to the federal judge and court staff (6 people), would that be okay? They received chocolate strawberries that were delivered to the court before I clerked and mentioned about how they ate them for breakfast. The judge has been a wonderful mentor and taken me out to lunch on multiple occasions.


In my opinion, that would be fine. I think it falls under the B(2) exception for gifts from someone with whom the judge has a close enough personal relationship that the judge's impartiality in hearing a case involving that person might reasonably be questioned.

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Re: Gift for Federal Judge

Postby hlsperson1111 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:11 pm

legit wrote:https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_code_of_judicial_conduct/model_code_of_judicial_conduct_canon_3/rule3_13acceptanceandreportingofgift.html

If I were to give $100 in chocolate strawberries to the federal judge and court staff (6 people), would that be okay? They received chocolate strawberries that were delivered to the court before I clerked and mentioned about how they ate them for breakfast. The judge has been a wonderful mentor and taken me out to lunch on multiple occasions.


FYI, this is the relevant rule: http://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/f ... c-ch06.pdf



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