Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know anything about Patterson Belknap? I am not super big on going to NYC to practice law (seems like the worst place for that) BUT this firm seems different, idk. Any insight would be helpful.
It does seem like a genuinely great place to work. Market pay for reasonable hours and happier associates. Downsides are that the types of litigation are more limited than larger biglaw firms; there’s still a lot of RMBS work, which is highly leveraged, and certain kinds of IP. (I considered them for the culture, but came away from the interviews somewhat disappointed with their breadth).
I also interviewed with them because of what I heard about the culture, but I wasn't really feeling it. I think it's a good alternative to the other NYC biglaw firms for those who want somewhat more reasonable hours, more substantive experience, and don't mind the limited practice areas. But it's not so exceptional as to warrant moving to NYC just to work there.
Even if the hours are more reasonable than other NYC firms, there's still a 2100-hour requirement to get your bonus. I know 250 of that is non-billable, but pro bono is included in that category. And I got the sense that some people easily exceeded 2100 because there was so much work, which doesn't make it much different than other places. People making sure not to bother you at unreasonable hours is great, but it doesn't really reduce the amount of work.
The practice area breadth is indeed limited, and the firm's growth has been flat pretty much forever. They also only make 1 new partner per year on average. And I think the early substantive experience is a bit overblown. None of the juniors I spoke to had done anything much more substantive than juniors at other firms.
Anonymous User wrote:Thanks! In terms of tiers / prestige, my impression is that they are around the level of a Zuckerman or MoloLamken, but below a Bartlit Beck/Susman/Keker. Does that seem right?
They're not really a boutique, so I'm not sure how you'd compare those, but in terms of just prestige, I guess that sounds about right. It has a very good reputation in NYC, but the name isn't as recognizable if you ever want to leave.