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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri May 12, 2017 11:07 pm

Somewhat related question: what makes a judge a feeder to begin with? I know it means a judge likely to send clerks to SCOTUS. But what initially determines that? For instance, Sri is young. How has he achieved his status as a feeder, when older DC/2/9 judges have not? It it just a matter of connections between specific SCOTUS and Circuit judges?

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat May 13, 2017 12:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:Somewhat related question: what makes a judge a feeder to begin with? I know it means a judge likely to send clerks to SCOTUS. But what initially determines that? For instance, Sri is young. How has he achieved his status as a feeder, when older DC/2/9 judges have not? It it just a matter of connections between specific SCOTUS and Circuit judges?


He's known for being incredibly smart. He was deputy SG under Kagan. When he was appointed, it was understood that he would be a likely SCOTUS nominee under a Democrat.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat May 13, 2017 2:07 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Somewhat related question: what makes a judge a feeder to begin with? I know it means a judge likely to send clerks to SCOTUS. But what initially determines that? For instance, Sri is young. How has he achieved his status as a feeder, when older DC/2/9 judges have not? It it just a matter of connections between specific SCOTUS and Circuit judges?


He's known for being incredibly smart. He was deputy SG under Kagan. When he was appointed, it was understood that he would be a likely SCOTUS nominee under a Democrat.


He's one of those few frighteningly smart people. Like genius-class intellect. But he's also an incredibly personable guy.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby nothingtosee » Sat May 13, 2017 10:25 am

This is a great thread btw

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 16, 2017 2:12 am

Anonymous User wrote:This has gotten a bit out of whack. I think it's really school-dependent.

I managed to get an interview with CADC feeder from top 3% at a T6 with basically 0 faculty support as far as calls etc. No one reached out to me and was like, we're gonna help you get a good clerkship.


Same. Top student at a T6 school here. No reach outs, no specific assistance, no effort by the school whatsoever. Landed a 2/9/DC somewhat feeder during 2L just through my own efforts. Not Sri level though; maybe that's the difference.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 16, 2017 5:41 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:This has gotten a bit out of whack. I think it's really school-dependent.

I managed to get an interview with CADC feeder from top 3% at a T6 with basically 0 faculty support as far as calls etc. No one reached out to me and was like, we're gonna help you get a good clerkship.


Same. Top student at a T6 school here. No reach outs, no specific assistance, no effort by the school whatsoever. Landed a 2/9/DC somewhat feeder during 2L just through my own efforts. Not Sri level though; maybe that's the difference.


I had a similar experience. My judge actually didn't take calls on behalf of applicants at all. When I went through the clerkship and helped with hiring, there were a few times a professor or such would call and the assistant would basically say "no thanks" and hang up. I don't have any statistical evidence to back it up but I have a feeling more judges, no matter how slowly, are starting to adopt practices that make the process fairer, i.e., just send me your app, I'll read/skim it like everyone's, and decide who to interview without having a connection get you the interview for you.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 16, 2017 5:54 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:This has gotten a bit out of whack. I think it's really school-dependent.

I managed to get an interview with CADC feeder from top 3% at a T6 with basically 0 faculty support as far as calls etc. No one reached out to me and was like, we're gonna help you get a good clerkship.


Same. Top student at a T6 school here. No reach outs, no specific assistance, no effort by the school whatsoever. Landed a 2/9/DC somewhat feeder during 2L just through my own efforts. Not Sri level though; maybe that's the difference.


I had a similar experience. My judge actually didn't take calls on behalf of applicants at all. When I went through the clerkship and helped with hiring, there were a few times a professor or such would call and the assistant would basically say "no thanks" and hang up. I don't have any statistical evidence to back it up but I have a feeling more judges, no matter how slowly, are starting to adopt practices that make the process fairer, i.e., just send me your app, I'll read/skim it like everyone's, and decide who to interview without having a connection get you the interview for you.


I know for a fact that the feeder-level DC Circuit judges, including Srinivasan, rely on calls from professors to determine which candidates to interview. They tend to interview fewer candidates and to hire a higher percentage of interviewees than the average circuit judge, so a lot of the weeding out occurs pre-interview.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 16, 2017 5:58 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:This has gotten a bit out of whack. I think it's really school-dependent.

I managed to get an interview with CADC feeder from top 3% at a T6 with basically 0 faculty support as far as calls etc. No one reached out to me and was like, we're gonna help you get a good clerkship.


Same. Top student at a T6 school here. No reach outs, no specific assistance, no effort by the school whatsoever. Landed a 2/9/DC somewhat feeder during 2L just through my own efforts. Not Sri level though; maybe that's the difference.


I had a similar experience. My judge actually didn't take calls on behalf of applicants at all. When I went through the clerkship and helped with hiring, there were a few times a professor or such would call and the assistant would basically say "no thanks" and hang up. I don't have any statistical evidence to back it up but I have a feeling more judges, no matter how slowly, are starting to adopt practices that make the process fairer, i.e., just send me your app, I'll read/skim it like everyone's, and decide who to interview without having a connection get you the interview for you.


I know for a fact that the feeder-level DC Circuit judges, including Srinivasan, rely on calls from professors to determine which candidates to interview. They tend to interview fewer candidates and to hire a higher percentage of interviewees than the average circuit judge, so a lot of the weeding out occurs pre-interview.


This is the anon you just quoted. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean to suggest it was a Sri level clerkship. I echoed the post I myself quoted that said it wasn't that level of a clerkship.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 31, 2017 8:25 am

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Anonymous User wrote:I give up. Everyone who doesn't go to YHS is an idiot.


This is a thread about clerking for Sri Srinivasan.
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So it's also for people who were top 1 or 2 or 3 students at a t14

e.g. this dude:
https://content.law.virginia.edu/news/2 ... /tyson.htm
"Tyson, who is originally from Mequon, Wisconsin, is the recipient of the Carl M. Franklin Prize, which honors the student with the highest grade point average after the first year of law school, and served on the editorial board of the Virginia Law Review. At graduation, he received the Traynor Prize and Law School Alumni Association Best Note Award for his law review publication. He also received the Faculty Award for Academic Excellence, given to the student with the most outstanding academic record at graduation."


Your anecdotal experience is truth. No one at UVA who isn't 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, can clerk for a feeder. Noted.

Not top 3, but very few outside the top 5.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
nothingtosee wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I give up. Everyone who doesn't go to YHS is an idiot.


This is a thread about clerking for Sri Srinivasan.
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So it's also for people who were top 1 or 2 or 3 students at a t14

e.g. this dude:
https://content.law.virginia.edu/news/2 ... /tyson.htm
"Tyson, who is originally from Mequon, Wisconsin, is the recipient of the Carl M. Franklin Prize, which honors the student with the highest grade point average after the first year of law school, and served on the editorial board of the Virginia Law Review. At graduation, he received the Traynor Prize and Law School Alumni Association Best Note Award for his law review publication. He also received the Faculty Award for Academic Excellence, given to the student with the most outstanding academic record at graduation."


Your anecdotal experience is truth. No one at UVA who isn't 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, can clerk for a feeder. Noted.

Not top 3, but very few outside the top 5.


LOL. This is just simply not true. Any Order of the Coif wahoos out there don't be discouraged by this nonsense.

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:10 pm

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Re: Srinivasan Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:52 pm

Look at this level, it's more about connections than grades. I had a stronger school/grades combo than many people who got feeder clerkships, but I didn't have the connections, so I didn't.

Once you pass a certain threshold, and for most feeders that's roughly top 5% at an upper T14, the connections are dispositive.



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