Anonymous User wrote: rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:It's ridiculous to suggest that Judge Srinivasan has no way to distinguish between two YLS applicants with straight Hs. He calls their professors. They will tell him whether or not that applicant wrote a top-scoring exam. That's precisely how it works.
Yes, that is often how it works. Now explain to me like I'm five how this proves that Sri knows who has top 1–2% grades at YLS?
A top 1–2% applicant from YLS will have written at least 3 top-scoring or model exam answers in her ~7 graded 1L classes, assuming straight Hs. Judge Srinivasan can know this because YLS professors are generally willing to disclose to him whether the applicant wrote a top-scoring or model exam answer. He often uses the telephone
to uncover this information. But sometimes he uses electronic mail
(Your counterargument from personal incredulity is, I hope, totally unconvincing to YLS 1Ls reading this thread.)
Here's what happened in this thread: you said something false—i.e., that Judge Srinivasan only hires YLS students who are top 1-2% after 1L. When called out on it, you could have easily responded with something like: "Fair enough, maybe it's not literally top 1-2%, but judges have ways of distinguishing the top students from the good students, and you have to be up there at YLS, or at least have a particularly helpful and influential prof on your side, to have a shot at Sri." But that's not what you said. Instead, you doubled down on your "top 1-2%" assertion, layering exaggeration on top of exaggeration in order to defend it. If anyone is misleading YLS students in this thread, it's you.
I don't expect that many are following this silly debate, but for anyone who cares: Yes, you generally need straight Hs (which is just four graded classes at YLS after 1L) to get an interview with a feeder. And, yes, judges may call some
of your professors and learn about your relative performance on an exam. But our little anon friend here suggests that Judge Srinivasan calls/emails all of your professors and learns your informal rank in each class, including your rank in first-semester classes that don't have grades. I seriously doubt any judge calls seven different YLS professors to ask about a given student's exam performance. And even if Judge Srinivasan did this (which he does not), he would find that certain professors would be unwilling to assign a rank/grade/score to the student's exam. Judges are not canvassing all of your YLS professors and then calculating class rank at the granular level of "top 1% or 2%"
For what it's worth, some judges find YLS's opaqueness frustrating. I know of one particularly snobby judge who hires more HLS students than YLS students precisely because he can figure out who is top 1% or 2% or 5% at HLS, but can't do so for YLS. As you can imagine, the blurriness of YLS's grading system makes it especially important to have a couple of influential recommenders on your side. Your exam performance in a particular class is one way to get a recommender to go to bat for you with a feeder judge or SCOTUS justice, but it's not the only way.
Just to pile on some more, even if Judge Srinviasan could actually figure out who is top 1-2% at YLS, he likely wouldn't use it as a threshold. Roughly 4-5% of YLS grads in a given class will end up clerking on SCOTUS. Sri isn't filtering out potential SCOTUS clerks. So, YLS 1Ls: if you've got straight Hs, and if you've got one or two influential recommenders who are willing to make calls for you, don't self-select out of applying to Judge Srinviasan (or any other feeder judge) because you believe that you have not broken into the imaginary "top 1 or 2%" tier that the anon poster believes exists.