2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:37 pm

Rejection from Dechert Chicago shortly after applying.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:06 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Just received an interview invite from Williams and Connolly, applied about 3 weeks ago through their online system.


Care to share your stats, so to speak? D Court, or COA? Major market?


DC and COA clerkships, both coastal secondary markets.

Mind sharing any educational background? School range/class rank?


Not OP, but I know two people who interviewed with W&C so far:

one guy was top few people at MVPB and COA feeder-lite
and one who was magna at Harvard and COA not feeder but judge who i'd say is fairly well respected


OP here. Sorry, new to actually giving details on here, I've historically been a lurker.

Top 20% at MVPB and worked in big law before clerking.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:04 pm

This thread is starting to scare me. If a clerk-alumnus of your judge is a partner at a firm, I assume it's much better to try to leverage that connection than to send in a cold online app?

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This thread is starting to scare me. If a clerk-alumnus of your judge is a partner at a firm, I assume it's much better to try to leverage that connection than to send in a cold online app?

I tried that for Gibson/Sidley and it didn't work. Always worth a shot though.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:17 pm

Skadden LA ding. :cry:

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:38 pm

Does anyone have a sense of if a slight 3L grade drop hurts for post-clerkship hiring? Will be coming off a non-feeder CoA, grades could go from top 3% to top 10% after 3L (at a T6).

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have a sense of if a slight 3L grade drop hurts for post-clerkship hiring? Will be coming off a non-feeder CoA, grades could go from top 3% to top 10% after 3L (at a T6).


You''ll be fine. You are currently a 3L? This is the wrong thread for you then, and you shouldn't even be thinking about things like this for awhile. Focus on doing well in school, passing the bar, and crushing your clerkship.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:13 pm

Williams & Connolly rejection via snail mail about a week and a half after applying. Flyover district court clerk and first in class at a T30.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:52 pm

Looking at NALP data, the post-clerkship hiring game looks absolutely BRUTAL. Can this data be accurate? Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Can anyone assuage my fears? A few select horror stories:

During 2014 and 2015 combined, in all offices, Gibson Dunn reports hiring four (4!) post-clerkship candidates who were not summer associates at the firm. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... bson%22%7D

Williams & Connolly reports hiring 0. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... olly%22%7D

Kirkland Chicago, during 2014 and 2015 combined, reports hiring three (3!) post clerkship candidates who were not summers at the firm. http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... land%22%7D

Sure, there are a few firms out there with slightly better numbers. But I didn't find many. And they are by and large not the ones people talk about on this forum as being the "desirable" post-clerkship landing spots.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

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Anonymous User wrote:Looking at NALP data, the post-clerkship hiring game looks absolutely BRUTAL. Can this data be accurate? Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Can anyone assuage my fears? A few select horror stories:

During 2014 and 2015 combined, in all offices, Gibson Dunn reports hiring four (4!) post-clerkship candidates who were not summer associates at the firm. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... bson%22%7D

Williams & Connolly reports hiring 0. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... olly%22%7D

Kirkland Chicago, during 2014 and 2015 combined, reports hiring three (3!) post clerkship candidates who were not summers at the firm. http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... land%22%7D

Sure, there are a few firms out there with slightly better numbers. But I didn't find many. And they are by and large not the ones people talk about on this forum as being the "desirable" post-clerkship landing spots.

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You've misread the Williams & Connolly hiring report. They simply opted not to disclose their hiring data.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:39 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Looking at NALP data, the post-clerkship hiring game looks absolutely BRUTAL. Can this data be accurate? Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Can anyone assuage my fears? A few select horror stories:

During 2014 and 2015 combined, in all offices, Gibson Dunn reports hiring four (4!) post-clerkship candidates who were not summer associates at the firm. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... bson%22%7D

Williams & Connolly reports hiring 0. See http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... olly%22%7D

Kirkland Chicago, during 2014 and 2015 combined, reports hiring three (3!) post clerkship candidates who were not summers at the firm. http://nalpdirectory.com/employer_profi ... land%22%7D

Sure, there are a few firms out there with slightly better numbers. But I didn't find many. And they are by and large not the ones people talk about on this forum as being the "desirable" post-clerkship landing spots.

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You've misread the Williams & Connolly hiring report. They simply opted not to disclose their hiring data.


Above anon. Yes, I thought that might be the case. That being said, lots of other prominent/highly regarded firms I looked at--not just in DC, but all over--didn't have numbers much better than Gibson or Kirkland.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:22 pm

Are people worried their 2L summer firm will find out about interviewing? Or is this all part of the game--sorta like during OCI where no one cared that you were interviewing with other places.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:53 pm

Any new firm updates? Getting worried about the silence.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any new firm updates? Getting worried about the silence.


Yeah.. radio silence :(

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any new firm updates? Getting worried about the silence.


Kellogg sent a mass mailer that invited CA4 clerks for a meeting with a partner this week during our sitting. Don't really know what this would be other than a screener.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby clerk1251 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any new firm updates? Getting worried about the silence.


Kellogg sent a mass mailer that invited CA4 clerks for a meeting with a partner this week during our sitting. Don't really know what this would be other than a screener.


Sounds like more of the mixer type events that each firm would put on during OCI week. Much more of an invitation to apply, rather than a screening interview.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:20 pm

Rejection from Jenner Chicago. Chicago market seems very bad right now. Does anybody have a sense of what the healthier litigation markets in the country are?

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:01 pm

If offered an interview at a WH, APKS, Cov, GDC, what are the odds of an actual offer? I am wondering what the ratio of interviews to offers is.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:23 am

Rejection from Latham DC in less than 24 hours. Inside word from committee is that they are "not in hiring mode," whatever that means.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:Rejection from Latham DC in less than 24 hours. Inside word from committee is that they are "not in hiring mode," whatever that means.


Pre-Latham-ing. They really are ahead of the curve.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:47 pm

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:10 am

I've gotten another handful of dings in my email over the last few days. Don't even remember them all. All dc offices. The most recent two were Winston and Strawn and Vinson and Elkins. :shock: :cry:

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:25 am

Anonymous User wrote:I've gotten another handful of dings in my email over the last few days. Don't even remember them all. All dc offices. The most recent two were Winston and Strawn and Vinson and Elkins. :shock: :cry:


Just got a ding from Williams & Connolly. They sent it via snail mail because of course they did.

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:30 am

Was the ding from W&C post-interview or pre-interview?

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Re: 2016-17 Post-Clerkship Hiring Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:02 am

clerk1251 wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:Any new firm updates? Getting worried about the silence.


Kellogg sent a mass mailer that invited CA4 clerks for a meeting with a partner this week during our sitting. Don't really know what this would be other than a screener.


Sounds like more of the mixer type events that each firm would put on during OCI week. Much more of an invitation to apply, rather than a screening interview.


Can confirm that this is an informational session / invitation to apply, not a screener. Impressing the partners can certainly help but don't view it as an interview.



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